"If there was sex when there was an abundance of alcohol, there is no consent. There's a line there" - so why aren't you facing charges?

v573v · 2016-09-16T07:15:00+00:00

Investigators at the hospital, she said, asked her "humiliating and accusatory questions," such as what she was wearing, what and how much she drank, and how much she ate that day.

This always bugs me. "What were you wearing?" is not the same as "Were you dressing like a slut?" If they speak with other witnesses/CCTV they may need to know what she was wearing for identification. They may need to know in case her clothes become evidence to make sure it's the right articles of clothing. They may need to know to confirm the order of removal of clothing or method of removing clothing matches testimony (buckles, can the material rip, how many layers were removed, etc).

How much someone drinks and eats is obvious to determine the level of intoxication.

Heaven forbid the police actually want to make sure they aren't just tossing someone into jail solely on another person's word. Goodness gracious.

feedmecarrots · 2016-09-16T05:38:28+00:00

Something is very wrong with this. If it turns out that feminsts are railroading a black man in the South, they are not going to be very popular anywhere. If the police already found no merit to it and they are going over their heads and the district attorney's too, it may well be so.

civilsaint · 2016-09-16T11:47:22+00:00

So the 6 month Turner sentence was sufficient for other women to come forward?

Actually, that makes this sound like a copycat allegation.

Kyle_Fischer · 2016-09-16T16:15:20+00:00

Anybody know the particulars on the details of this case? Because the statement, "If there was sex when there was an abundance of alcohol, there is no consent" is not the legal standard for sexual assault that I have heard. And, just her attitude and demeanor makes it seem like she has an agenda to ruin a man's life and become the next victim who is fawned over. And, if you are thinking, what woman wants to be fawned over by making a false allegation? Jackie Coakley, Porn Star E. Sulkoweicz, and a number of college girls who are coming forward with false allegations. She seems like an angry feminist who is using the wrong standard to say she was a victim of sexual assault. If the details are that she was on top during this tryst, then I highly doubt that she was too drunk to consent. And, I don't know if "mistake of fact" applies in NC, but in many jurisdictions, the accused must not have a reasonable mistake of fact as to her ability to consent due to impairment. I'm white and from the South, and it sounds like a little white Southern girl is regretting having sex with a black man.

Title	"If there was sex when there was an abundance of alcohol, there is no consent. There's a line there" - so why aren't you facing charges?
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Date	September 16, 2016 3:59 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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