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"New Zealand is no paradise: Is it the most sexist place on earth?"

crumble345

September 15, 2016
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/84167679/new-zealand-is-no-paradise-is-it-the-most-sexist-place-on-earth?cid=facebook.post.84167679
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Title "New Zealand is no paradise: Is it the most sexist place on earth?"
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crumble345

Upvotes 3
Comments 6
Date September 15, 2016 4:00 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/52uh3t/new_zealand_is_no_paradise_is_it_the_most_sexist/
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[–]MagicTampon 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]dontpet 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It sounds like rites of passage in rural new Zealand. Awkward and clumsy and less than ideal for both genders. But she doesn't seem to recognise that it's this way for both genders.

[–]unpicked-username 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow I completely disagree with 90% of the post. I'm on android so I can only copy 1 thing at a time.

In my community, men and women did not mingle socially except under the influence of alcohol.

How does this relate to sexism? How is it that both men and women lacking confidence to 'mingle' with eachother is sexist?

[–]JebberJabber 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a stupidly unbalanced and over-generalised article and does not represent the whole country, nor everybody's rural experience. I noticed several commenters who agreed it matched their childhood though.

Australia is worse. It has a stronger bogan culture and ockerism extends throughout the society.

She would not have written the titl,e but "most sexist country in the world" is silly click-bait, as is the bias of the article.

That said, I recognise everything she described. Every single thing.

Men and women lacking the confidence and skills to mingle socially and especially sexually without being drunk out of their minds is not in itself sexist, but it is a product of a sexist culture in small towns.

I suspect part of it is that school holiday jobs available to rural young people are mostly physical, so it is boys who tend to control the social infrastructure of transport, alcohol and drugs. Music too, back in the days when an album cost a day's wages. That sets up boys to dominate activities and conversation, and leaves girls a hanger-on role which they resent.

In the cities it is more common for boys and girls to treat each other as equals so they don't all have that need to get blind drunk before they can socialise or have sex. That habit is still seen in working class areas though.

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds just like Liverpoor or Manchester to me.

Mind you, I went to NZ once. Lovely looking mountan country but dull as fuck. Like Switzerland but not as up-itself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, she's found a way to utterly remove agency for women from any decision they make around sex and drinking. Yep, all those men forcing drinks into women. I guess they must be tied up or something.

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