Woman pleads guilty, but law says only men can be guilty of rape

DillipFayKick · 2016-09-06T23:33:55+00:00

Hey. If anyone is interested, here is a real, live, actual incidence of institutional sexism and rape culture.

Daktush · 2016-09-07T00:32:42+00:00

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Link5261 · 2016-09-06T21:34:06+00:00

She had pleaded guilty to six charges of sexually penetrating an underage girl with a sex toy and her fingers.

The offence carries a maximum penalty of 20 years' jail with a fine.

Yesterday, Zunika Ahmad, 39, who is biologically female but had lived as a man since she was 16, and had even "married" two women, turned up in the High Court expecting to be jailed for her offences.

Both the prosecution and defence had also agreed on the facts and charges of the case.

But in an unexpected landmark ruling, Senior Judge Kan Ting Chiu rejected Zunika's guilty pleas and acquitted her of the sexual penetration charges.

His reason: Under the law, only a man can be charged with sexual penetration.

HeForeverBleeds · 2016-09-07T01:18:31+00:00

Things like this are why the argument that female rapists are so insignificantly rare because men "statistically" make up the vast majority of rapists is complete bullshit. Of course men make the vast majority of rapists, statistically, when in the vast majority of places it's legally impossible for women to rape people regardless of what they do

It's even more ridiculous that the argument I often hear against making rape laws gender neutral in the first place is that "rape is a men's crime and women almost never commit rape," like the moron says in this case

"Many of our laws remain gender specific because they reflect situations where men tend to be the aggressors.

Men "tend to be the aggressors" because when women are the aggressors you say it doesn't count. Text book circular logic: women must not be raping people, because the conviction statistics say they don't; we shouldn't start convicting women of rape, because women aren't really raping people

If a court were to interpret A to include a woman, it would be rewriting the law...

And why isn't rewriting such an inane law worth protecting people from predatory women like this in the first place? In this case we can clearly see the injustice. Just think of how much more often women do things like this to girls and boys and it never even makes it to the newspaper

The only reason we're hearing about this is because a trans-man penetrated a girl; if a woman forced a 13-year-old boy to penetrated her in an otherwise similar situation, we'd probably not even be hearing about it. She wouldn't have even been sentenced to 8 months for it

jakelove12 · 2016-09-07T05:59:19+00:00

Having considered the matter, we have decided not to take the approach that all offences should be 'gender neutral'.

Many of our laws remain gender specific because they reflect situations where men tend to be the aggressors.

E.g. rape will remain an offence that only males can commit.

>Define rape as something only a man can commit

>Result: Only men are charged with rape, female rapists are literally not legally possible

>Conclusion: Defend law that defines rape as something only men commit, because only men have been recorded of committing rape

These people are either incredibly, incredibly stupid, or just plain evil. Like, I can't think of another explanation.

pupunoob · 2016-09-06T23:53:40+00:00

In what country is this?

Lord__Beerus · 2016-09-07T02:24:11+00:00

That's way more dummer than saying humongous and being yelled at for sexually assaulting a woman.

Meistermalkav · 2016-09-07T10:01:01+00:00

How about you upgrade the charge in absence of a working law to the next biggest thing that a man could be convicted for. Or, you know, directly charge her with sexual battery and such.

Sick and tired of the "Only men can rape" bullshit. Hope when she gets prison she gets what she deserves.

2016-09-07T06:43:54+00:00

Hi, doggy.

feedmecarrots · 2016-09-07T05:25:29+00:00

This is very singular, exceptional case. It is one for the books, if ejudicated properly.

Title	Woman pleads guilty, but law says only men can be guilty of rape
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Date	September 6, 2016 9:33 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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