How many other gay/bi/trans men are there here?

baserace · 2016-01-22T03:38:16+00:00

114,000 subscribers. You do the math!

Threads specific to non-hetero men come up from time to time. IIRC there were more and more gay/bi/trans men saying they are pissed off about feminists trying to co-opt these men as an integral part of feminism, and these men were saying fuck off, I'm not your shield.

Anyway, feel free to start threads on men's rights issues specific to whoever!

2016-01-22T05:47:42+00:00

I am a high functioning autistic bisexual and I don't need nor want feminists to speak for me.

vault151 · 2016-01-22T20:51:12+00:00

I'm trans. Feminism has unfortunately taken over the LGBT community.

Imnotmrabut · 2016-01-22T05:06:41+00:00

Hold on a second, let me check the closet.

Vedney · 2016-01-22T11:43:34+00:00

Gay Filipino MRA here. Feminists can't use the "you wouldn't know because you're straight and white" argument against me.

Imnotmrabut · 2016-01-22T12:29:03+00:00

The early homosexual rights movement and the women's emancipation movement were both part of a broader sexual reform movement in the first three decades of the 20th century; they were regarded as comrade struggles. This was also true in the gay liberation phase of our movement, from the fall of 1969 onwards. I believe this is correct, and that every progressive person should endorse the basic goals of both movements — though to be sure, neither movement is a systematic body of doctrine, and both movements have internal disagreements.

Unfortunately, some very serious problems have arisen. Self-proclaimed feminists have acted in ways that were harmful to both gay liberation and women's liberation, and reactionary ideas have been advanced under the banner of feminism....

According to this ideology, the best things gay men can do is to act as a “men's auxiliary” for women's liberation, taking their cues from feminists. And since men are the enemy, gay men should be willing to enlist as agents in the fight against males and against maleness.

Len Richmond (1 September 1979). The New gay liberation book: writings and photographs about gay (men's) liberation. Ramparts Press. pp. 155–163. ISBN 978-0-87867-071-0.

Typokun · 2016-01-22T05:20:46+00:00

Well, I definitely am one, and know a few. Trust me, I hate that the feminist groups try and piggyback our issues, say they're trying to help us too, just to push their agenda. I know they wouldn't care for us, and heck at the start of their movement they were actually AGAINST us.

Natsume21 · 2016-01-22T19:35:05+00:00

Hi u/potpocket. Recent bisexual here, also MRA, also black.

Used to grow up around women and because of that, absorbed feminist idealogy pretty easily and accepted it even in college. My issue was that none of it clicked for me. If feminism really was equal, why were men like me and others screwed over by cheating wives, girlfriends, the justice system, police, etc?

Then two years ago my sister betrayed me, abused me and called the cops on me while I was held against my will. Sadly, on just her word, I was hauled off to jail and fought a battle that could have potentially ruined my life. I was homeless, ID-less, and at the time hopeless.

I had also just gotten cheated on and tossed to the side. And seeing her get a support group while I got abandoned was just one of many signs.

Then I noticed little things...about women's nature...hypergamy, Briffault's Law, the sheer number of laws benefitting them, and my generation's entitled nature...and by accident, I found a Sandman video and it ALL MADE sense.

Been a MRA since. Welcome to the club

iainmf · 2016-01-22T04:43:23+00:00

You made me remember this.

freemale101 · 2016-01-22T13:24:15+00:00

Hi. Hello. I'm not gay BUT I'm wishing for it in my next life. Why? Well I reckon gay guys get a much easier time of it than the Heteros. You've got no 'pussy power' to contend with. So does that count me in as a 'de-facto' gay MRA? Probably not. However as a hetero MRA let me state that I welcome homosexual MRAs, especially Lesbians, because they understand 'the Matrix' (sorry, using RedPill code) and the ones I've witnessed have outstanding scholarship. I would only ask that you don't convert "men's rights" into "gay rights". And "mens rights" is predominantly Hetero (because most males are hetero) and our struggle with the Gynocentric superstructure, its subterfuge, and subsequent 'Feminist' take over of the World. Great having you on board.....now don't get narky on me!

rg57 · 2016-01-23T07:12:12+00:00

Why do we need to unite? I'm not a joiner. I don't even call myself an MRA.

It's sufficient to understand what men (most of them straight) are going through, and to stand for the right thing.

TheDude41 · 2016-01-22T08:27:48+00:00

Lots, I'm sure.

I actually think if all men were gay, the world would be a better place.

Title	How many other gay/bi/trans men are there here?
Author	potpocket
Upvotes	10
Comments	22
Date	January 22, 2016 3:16 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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