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Poor boys are falling behind poor girls, and it's deeply troubling

casusbelli1

November 23, 2015
32 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Poor boys are falling behind poor girls, and it's deeply troubling
Author

casusbelli1

Upvotes 32
Comments 7
Date November 23, 2015 9:53 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3tzvmd/poor_boys_are_falling_behind_poor_girls_and_its/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/poor-boys-are-falling-behind-poor-girls-and-its.966496
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Comments

[–]aesopstortoise 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are girls 'tougher' than boys or are they advantaged by the way they are treated? There have been decades of outright neglect of the issues facing men and boys, at the same time as issues facing women and girls are constantly highlighted.

[–]xynomaster 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a fair point. The article argues that boys need more nurturing than girls to succeed, but ignores large numbers of other studies that have found that, when resources are scarce, girls get far more of them than boys. So it may be that boys and girls both need the same amount of nurturing to succeed, but strained families just give more time, affection, and nurturing to their daughters, thinking their sons are "tough" enough to be fine without it.

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[–]tiltedrea -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Boys' advantage in math and sciences is very minor compared to how much better girls are in reading. Check out Page 51.

This is obviously one of the reasons why girls don't pick STEM as much. They have more options. How could we expect STEM participation to be equal when girls are dominating things outside STEM?

[–]llordylord 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

http://www.randalolson.com/wp-content/uploads/iq-by-college-major-gender.png

Look at this.

http://www.maa.org/news/us-team-takes-first-place-at-international-mathematical-olympiad

Noticed any girls? I didn't

Also study you posted is made on 15 year olds. Girls mature earlier than boys.

[–]__throwaway16384 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/sat-percentile-ranks-mathematics-2015.pdf

We can actually measure this stuff you know.

It's actually interesting because I've always thought that variance dominated the slightly higher mean performance for boys, but really boys are just much much better in math across the board, at least according to the SAT.

Here's the reading table. It's close but if anything boys are better here too. https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/sat-percentile-ranks-crit-reading-2015.pdf

[–]irrelevant_usernam3 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just my 2 cents. Part of the reason girls from poor families are more likely to succeed are scholarships. Coming from a very poor family myself, I relied very heavily on scholarships and wouldn't have been able to get an education otherwise. But I had a harder time getting them than the girls in my classes. Why is it still perfectly acceptable to fund woman only scholarships but not male only scholarships when women are graduating and attending collage at higher rates?

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