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Women and the Draft: How Equal Do We Want to Be?

DGAgainstDV

October 22, 2015
19 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/17/women-and-the-draft-how-equal-do-we-want-to-be/
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Title Women and the Draft: How Equal Do We Want to Be?
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DGAgainstDV

Upvotes 19
Comments 12
Date October 22, 2015 10:12 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3ptw3z/women_and_the_draft_how_equal_do_we_want_to_be/
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Comments

[–]pnw_diver 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the notion of equality requiring them to be conscripts; I also oppose conscription in general, and to be blunt I wouldn't want to be a in rifle company with women.

[–]192873982 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You fear of women with rifles is unfounded.

We have a shooting competition for 13-17 year old kids and the girls make themselves quite well. A woman can handle a rifle just as well in lying position and probably only slightly worse while standing (because of the weight).

[–]Halafax 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And yet, mixed gender units did not fare well against all male units when tested head to head. No one is arguing that women can't shoot, the issue is that they can't carry the equipment needed to make shooting effective.

If women get pulled into selective service, they are going to be assigned to non combat roles, or they are going to make a combat unit significantly less effective. Either of those outcomes is going to increase, not reduce, male casualties.

[–]192873982 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't argue about women capability for military service, but about how good they shoot. You said " I wouldn't want to be a in rifle company with women" and I thought it's because of their rifle handling that you don't want that. But after reading it again, it could be that you don't want to be in a rifle company with women because of other things than shooting.

[–]Halafax 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You responded to someone else, not me.

[–]192873982 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ups, didn't look at the name.

[–]pnw_diver 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no "fear" and there is more to battlefields than stationary marksmanship. Be serious.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always see people say that we should repeal or do away with conscription, but when the time comes to reinstate it it'll be rubber stamped as it was before and only men will be drafted. The change needs to happen before repeal to ensure that if the time comes that it is reinstated, that everyone will be included equally.

[–]autotldr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)


In 1980, four years after women gained entrance to America's service academies and during the height of the Cold War, President Jimmy Carter reinstated Selective Service registration for all male U.S. citizens, ages 18-25.

Elsewhere on the Selective Service site, equality is explained this way: "By registering all eligible men, Selective Service ensures a fair and equitable draft, if ever required."

I don't want girls to face compulsory military service either, even if only in a theoretical Plan B. But for 30 years, while our country has argued about equality and freedom, almost no one has mentioned Selective Service and what it means for men.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Theory | Feedback | Top five keywords: Service#1 Selective#2 military#3 women#4 men#5

Post found in /r/MensRights, /r/Liberal, /r/Conservative and /r/FeMRADebates.

[–]DillipFayKick 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The lack of awareness the feminists have about their station is astounding. She sits there on her perch contemplating if she wants equal responsibility (even though the right has already been granted). Talk about privilege.

[–]TheDude41 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

White women: the most entitled overall demographic of human beings on the face of the planet. Yet, they complain the most! Damseling is such shit.

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

100% equal. Draft them into trenches just like men.

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