MR Edmonton responds to @shoe0nhead and The Armored Skeptic...

azazelcrowley · 2015-10-08T16:16:58+00:00

Posted on youtube by me to Shoe.

I think your name is in the title, probably because it's a calculated political maneuver. Which is a dick move. But basically, it's to maximize hits and views. Maybe i'm wrong on that. As for the smear campaign, that's kind of the point. There isn't anything wrong with being an MRA, and reacting as though you're scared to be thought of as one isn't cool. He should be responding "So you're saying that having this equality stance makes me an MRA? Well ok then. If that's what you want to go on record saying MRAs are about, that's fine." I like all your videos, and MREs, and Skeptics. I just kind of want people to drop this, if it gets dragged out or something it's going to be a clusterfuck and i'll be butthurt about people I like all arguing over what amounts to petty bullshit rather than fighting the real assholes. You are completely right that MRAs get defensive when compared to feminists though. I think there's good reason, but it can come across as hypersensitivity to people who aren't aware of the complexities of the issue and why that comparison is repugnant to the MRM. I think more exposure to the best of the MRA might change skeps mind. This video kind of isn't it. It's an immediate reaction to what is perceived as an insult. Let's not go crazy here guys. Shoeonhead basically is an MRA, or as good as one. She responded by laughing when Armored Skeptic was lamenting about how Atheism+ morons are calling him an MRA and he thinks they're just as bad as feminists. He said this during a livestream or some shit. The fact MRAs caught it demonstrates that, yeh, we like this guy. We watch his stuff. Even his shitty livestreams where it's an hour of rambling. I watch his stuff too, and he doesn't like feminists either, and is merely ignorant of the MRM. That's fine. We can't expect people to magically know shit.If we do this calmly and rationally, he'll come around. He's that kind of person. If we go apeshit about the comparison or something we'll just spill spaghetti everywhere and scare him off.

2015-10-08T17:20:19+00:00

And this subreddit had such a crush on shoeonhead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3enkaw/male_feminist_shut_up_woman_now_let_me_tell_you/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3l984a/why_is_mra_such_a_bad_word_for_feminists/

MrDoradus · 2015-10-08T18:58:43+00:00

I gotta say Shoeonhead seemed much more reasonable on her videos, which I loved, where she's flying solo, but it seems that the "pack mentality" has a bad influence on her. They practically had a "who's cooler" contest by making fun out of other people, not with arguments but personal attacks.

Don't know who the dude is, but that horseshoe metaphor was quite off.

They had their "personal definitions" of feminists and MRAs in mind when they talked about it. They extrapolated the most radical feminist behaviour, which we see plenty of, to the opposite group MRM and came to the conclusion they (we) must be as radical also, but for opposite reasons/causes. I personally haven't experienced a single example of radical MRAs with big support (I'd be glad if anyone would provide me with examples if they exist), so I got to say their comments really were quite ignorant.

CynicCorvus · 2015-10-08T17:30:30+00:00

So i saw this 'event' thru tweeter before coming here and all i can say is....

So much spaghetti thrown around

So many mra's need to grow a thicker skin and makes me stand by my point a made awhile ago that some mra's are /in danger of becoming radicals.

buck54321 · 2015-10-08T16:30:15+00:00

As a popular youtuber, its always a good idea to attack your main userbase and the people who most agree with you /s

Perhaps a short boycott is in order.

Sasha_ · 2015-10-08T22:20:25+00:00

I don't know a lot about 'shoeOnhead' but I did think one of her videos mocking feminists was quite funny.

The rest of the time she seems like a giggling idiot.

IronJohnMRA · 2015-10-08T16:03:25+00:00

"So, June and the Armored Skeptic say that MRAs and feminists have the same arguments and do the same things."

This is the main point Eric Duckman addresses in his video. Please watch, and if you agree with him, please share his response.

Title	MR Edmonton responds to @shoe0nhead and The Armored Skeptic...
Author	IronJohnMRA
Upvotes	29
Comments	9
Date	October 8, 2015 4:00 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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