What is the criteria to be part of the top 20 percent of males?

fiat_lux_ · 2014-01-07T04:04:26+00:00

All values below are only applicable to the USA.

Height

In terms of height, it's approx 182 cm (approx 6 ft) at peak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

The charts on the wiki page are shit (it's hard to tell what P80 height is). So here is a chart dated from 2008:

http://www.halls.md/chart/men-height-w.htm

Check the P75 mark, which is close to 6 ft.

Weight

From the following, it looks like the 80th percentile would be approx BMI 22 for men aged over 20 years:

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/childrens_bmi/about_childrens_bmi.html#What%20is%20BMI%20percentile

Income

The P80 marker for personal income (not household) is approx 57k USD to 58k USD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States#Income_distribution

Wealth / Net Worth

The stats for these appear less reliable than income, as it's easier for people to hide or miscalculate their net worth, and it fluctuates a lot more. Never the less, wiki and other sources have the stats, and the number vary from approx 250k to 500k range for the 80th percentile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_in_the_United_States#Statistics

(Your own due diligence needed for other sources.)

(EDIT: P.S. Don't fret over the wiki page. A majority of this net worth is from home equity. Also, the numbers are for family net worth, not individual. Again, it's variable, so do your own work and draw your own conclusions.)

Social Prowess

Most statistics on this matter are absolute bullshit because they are too subjective. To give you an idea, 18-24 year olds boast an average of over 500 friends (mostly due to Facebook).

Sexual Activity

This varies by multiple factors. Your own due diligence will be required. The CDC (Center for Disease Control - National Center for Health Statistics) may have what you need.

One source I've found from superficial Googling analyzes from published CDC stats on promiscuity of teenagers, with which you can compare your own history. (Adult statistics weren't as in depth for the study.) It might seem stupid, because people change, but it's one of the better and more comprehensive analyses I've found. Besides that, with teenagers, you eliminate various other factors such as income and career.

Check Table 2 of Page 17 onwards: http://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/81662

You can get 80th percentile for any set of stats by multiplying 0.84 by the standard deviation and applying that to the mean. You get the standard dev from dividing the CV (coefficient of variation) by 100 and multiplying that by the mean.

As an example, suppose you wanted stats for non-hispanic white. That is mean 1.4, CV 246.

2.46 * 1.4 = 3.444

Multiply that by 0.84 standard devs = 2.89296

Add that to the mean to get 4.29296... approx 4.3 sexual partners.

Yeah, either American teens are good at lying, or they are pretty promiscuous.

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Now, all that being said, that should purely be for your own curiousity. It's not very useful.

Where you rank in the entire USA (not even the entire world) is worthless because it matters more to compare yourself to others around you. Municipal stats are more sporadic than national ones. Imagine if we increased the scope of this question to the entire world. Just by being in the USA, you'd already be in the top 80th percentile globally for multiple metrics, easily (except for healthy weight).
From my own experience, these numbers don't help much at all. As with other things discussed, your personal self-esteem should come not from comparing yourself to others, but yourself (you now, vs your past self). I've experienced this from childhood onwards. Always within the top 1% academically, and yet my mother still managed to make me feel like shit. There will always be some other people down the block who make you feel average at best. Suppose you move into a higher tax bracket. Your wife pressures you to move to a better neighbourhood. Great. Now there are new Jones's to compare yourself to.

Just get yourself moving and be proud of having moved forward from a past, inferior version of yourself.

C_D_O · 2014-01-07T07:37:40+00:00

Game and nothing more.

As someone else pointed out in another thread, theres too much bullshit on here lately focusing on "status" and "money" to which the person in question quipped that the life strategy was to be "dont get laid until I'm 30+ and a CEO on wall street", which is obviously faulty.

Some of the biggest seducers of women were complete deadbeat scumbags. Their game is rock solid, to the point where they can get women to pay for their existence and integration into their lives for as long as they want it.

Obviously these things enhance your game: height, money, social status, etc. But any singular factor alone means absolute shit.

GayLubeOil · 2014-01-07T16:37:48+00:00

It realy depends on where you are and what females. If your in Sudan having a car will put you in the top 20%.

jakeinmn · 2014-01-07T02:58:19+00:00

The physical factor is by far the easiest and quickest way to move up the latter imo. While it takes six months for incredibly noticeable gains from that soft and average build and a year or a year and a half of dedication to reach an athletic build, one can easily get up there in terms of their own body.

For the income, after looking at various surveys, a nice estimate is that the top 20 percent of men earn more than 95,000.

[deleted] · 2014-01-07T11:11:54+00:00

It's really tricky to try and judge oneself against these factors.

By these metrics a bodybuilder isnt in the top 20% for weight, but a skinny fat nerd can be.

I'm in the top 20% for only one metric (height) and yet according to these figures I've had 5x the average number of partners.

I really dont think theres any value in breaking down the 80/20 rule to this degree. Its a blurred line

EvanDeadlySins · 2014-01-07T18:01:17+00:00

You see, a lot of it comes down to game and behavior. You see a lot of guys holding hands with beautiful women who by no means are in the top 20% of males. But they act like they are.

Title	What is the criteria to be part of the top 20 percent of males?
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Date	January 7, 2014 2:50 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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