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Debate with Jessica Valenti and Wendy McElroy on 'Rape Culture.'

desmay

September 17, 2015
23 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Debate with Jessica Valenti and Wendy McElroy on 'Rape Culture.'
Author

desmay

Upvotes 23
Comments 6
Date September 17, 2015 3:57 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3lbd84/debate_with_jessica_valenti_and_wendy_mcelroy_on/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/debate-with-jessica-valenti-and-wendy-mcelroy-on.971176
https://theredarchive.com/post/971176
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Comments

[–]Clockw0rk 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

JV is such a monumental idiot, bigot, and coward.

She tied her entire segment to mattress girl, the embodiment of rape culture and false accusations. Yeah, no wonder she threatened legal action at Brown. If people saw how miserable JV is at attempting to voice an informed opinion, her career would rightfully be over.

[–]MagicRocketAssault 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Valenti said this exactly

"I'm not going to try to convince anyone that rape culture exists because I don't have to. The facts speak for themselves"

Her facts? * Mattress girl's story * the 1 in 5 students stat

and then other unsubstantiated bullshit and anecdotes.

What a tremendous cunt.

[–]baserace 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Brilliant post from Wendy in the comments:

I was not surprised when Valenti threatened legal action if Brown continued to allow her side of the debate to be posted. I was expecting a far better ‘opponent’. The “afterward” at an arranged dinner was actually a lot better because she lost her temper more than once. What does it say about me that I considered it to be great fun.

Oh to be a fly on that wall.

[–]lurker_lagomorph 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can only imagine what her tantrums looked like. "Wah! Wendy's picking on me! It's not fair that I have to support my arguments!! Rape culture! Patriarchy!" I wish I could see the Q & A too. Valenti's parts were shitty (and embarrassing now that Sulkowicz's story has fallen apart) but she had a mostly sympathetic crowd. With a few direct questions I bet she would've been foaming at the mouth. Sadly McElroy mentions that the transcription was "clearly done by someone who was very sympathetic to rape culture ideology and it did not resemble what [she] remember[s] to have happened."

[–]lurker_lagomorph 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"I am exhausted of having to talk about rape culture in a framework that assumes its existence is up for debate."

I bet it "exhausts" ISIS to "have to" talk about Islam in a framework that assumes the existence of their God is up for debate too.. it must be soooooooooooo hard to be her... go home Valenti, you're clearly outclassed and your whining is tiring.

[–]WodensEye 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she clearly didn't enthusiastically consent to doing this debate...

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