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Help Fathers4Justice fight Myleene Klass legal action

JohnKimble111

July 22, 2015
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Title Help Fathers4Justice fight Myleene Klass legal action
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 55
Comments 20
Date July 22, 2015 10:31 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3e95c3/help_fathers4justice_fight_myleene_klass_legal/
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Comments

[–]mochacola 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a good sign MRAs, MRMs are starting to stir shit up. David can't get rid of Goliath by deluding maybe Goliath will listen and be nice.

2hrs of facts and stats is not going to get across to people busy with their lives. MRAs, MRMs need to deliver punches the mass can consume AND REMEMBER in 10 seconds. Any unsuspecting public bothered to fact check 1-in-5, 1-in-10, whatever? Nope.

This is good. MRAs and MRMs have too many voices in the form of college lectures, presentations, impressive debates. Look at how Coca-Cola sold unhealthy soda as "happiness" and "friendship". Look at how Apple sold phones as connection between people. Study ads. Ads focus on 3 steps. 1. Get attention 2. Deliver a clear message 3. Make sure the message stays. And deliver all that within as short a time frame as possible.

These type of ads should be supported, I don't care how out of context they may be. These ads are not going to change custody issues of celebrities. But the activism will help kids to see their dads.

[–]geniice 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a good sign MRAs, MRMs are starting to stir shit up. David can't get rid of Goliath by deluding maybe Goliath will listen and be nice.

Fathers 4 Justice have been around since 2002 and have been pretty sucessful at having a media impact.

[–]tiqr 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

For some reason this notion makes me very uncomfortable. Is it really ok to run advertisements highlighting people's private lives like this? Most people here I think would prefer to see less media attention focused on people's legal issues. If it's not ok for the media to cover sexual assault allegations of celebrities, why is it ok to talk about their children's custody issues?

[–]mochacola 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Most people think moms who deny kids of their dads are either victims of domestic violence or being psycho bitch 100% of the time. Most people are not aware a perfectly friendly woman can be ridiculously vindictive against her spouse over trivial matters.

On a side note, notice how everyone vilify the dad for walking out of the marriage when 70% of all divorce are initiated by women with 90% of all divorce initiated by women among college educated, and women are not vilified? I'll bet you women who walk out of marriage will be called as heroes.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it really ok to run advertisements highlighting people's private lives like this

She's the type of person who makes money out of selling interviews about her life to the press and repeatedly criticised her ex in the newspapers. She started all this nonsense and she profits from it, so such scrutiny is completely legitimate in this case. Furthermore it seems the father is fully supportive of Fathers4Justice.

[–]mushybees -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

No. Myleene's a good girl who is protecting her kids from a sack of shit gold digging drug dealer who walked out on his kids on christmas fucking day. At most you could accuse her of poor judgement in getting involved with the guy in the first place.

I normally support F4J but using Myleene on this ad is, in my opinion, out of order. There are genuine cases of good fathers being prevented from seeing their kids, but this is not one of them.

[–]Sasha_ 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's odd how all these womens ex-partners morph into violent, murderas, drug-taking monsters at the exact same time these women are seeking sole-custody. Funny that.

[–]mushybees 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In this particular case, he was a drug dealer before they even met, and he voluntarily left her and didn't attempt to see his kids for two years, just took a couple million quid and walked out on them. It's only over the last year he's wanted to see his kids

[–]mochacola 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3170565/Myleene-Klass-sizzles-navy-bikini-following-Graham-Quinn-spat.html#i-1325c78e0d3ec32d

Not what he said. Also, they had a quickie divorce. If there was millions involved in dispute, it won't have been quick. I don't know them but what I found was he was her bodyguard and he owns a security business.

[–]mushybees 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She gave him 1.8m so he wouldn't drag it through the courts. Or her lawyers did.

[–]mochacola 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Most people won't know her case in detail, and just wonder, "Why is there even a Justice 4 Fathers group? I thought men enjoy been deadbeat dads and couldn't be happier to run away from his family? If these dads want to see their kids, what's stopping them?" The ad breaks public's assumption that there is nothing to be fixed in family court. It is also not going to affect her case.

[–]geniice 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Most people won't know her case in detail, and just wonder, "Why is there even a Justice 4 Fathers group?

Only if they have been in a coma for the last decade.

I thought men enjoy been deadbeat dads and couldn't be happier to run away from his family?

"deadbeat dads" seems to be mostly a bit of US terminology. UK terms would be probably things like absent fathers. That said the political side tends to be more focused on if we should be hating single mothers or not.

The ad breaks public's assumption that there is nothing to be fixed in family court. It is also not going to affect her case.

Fathers 4 justice are at this point a well enough established group that backing the wrong case is going to hurt them more than it could help their stated cause.

[–]mochacola 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well, apparently I was in a coma, so I googled to see what I missed, and apparently, you were in a coma too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3170565/Myleene-Klass-sizzles-navy-bikini-following-Graham-Quinn-spat.html#i-1325c78e0d3ec32d

Let me guess, her words count as gospel and he is lying.

[–]geniice 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why are you trying to link me to an article about a woman sizzling in a bikini when we are talking about the profile of the group fathers 4 justice?

Wouldn't it make sense to talk about the time they managed trigger a major security review:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3728617.stm

Or the various times they have climbed bridges dressed as superheros

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2563030/Fathers-4-Justice-motorway-protest-causes-10-mile-tailbacks-into-Heathrow.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1472504/Batman-and-Robin-climb-300ft-bridge-in-fathers-protest.html

Or if you insist on a daily mail article how about the time they climbed Buckingham Palace dress as batman:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-317725/Batman-protester-climbs-palace-balcony.html

Say what you like about fathers 4 justice those guys know how to get media attention.

[–]mochacola 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

What? I got a pic from the dad's Twitter. Are you telling me the pic is fake? What does that have to do with whatever family vacation photos was in that article?

And don't forget that other F4J guy who committed suicide. That was also quite a stunt.

And this is F4J after 10 years? Erin Pizzey won't be impressed considering she witnessed first hand how fast feminist movement persecuted dads to expand into a huge business empire with political muscle to boot.

[–]geniice 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What? I got a pic from the dad's Twitter.

No you linked to the daily mail. The give away is the URL. Twitter can be found at twitter.com.

And don't forget that other guy who committed suicide. That was quite a stunt.

You aren't even making a coherent point here.

[–]mochacola 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't quite know how to use Twitter just yet. Even if I do, I won't know how to link it here. It's a snapshot, does it matter where that pic came from? What matters is the pic was not fake, and no one gives a shit about dad's words. Because women are saints and men are just lying scums, especially in family court.

Why is there such a huge focus that he ended their marriage on her birthday? Does it matter which day? Ah, that is so uncalled for that he deserved to be punished, ya? It's stated it was a quickie divorce, if the guy was a gold-digger, their divorce would not have been quick.

My point? You were talking about F4J's stunts. I'm telling you they recently just pulled another one. Look it up.

[–]mushybees -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh I can see the point, but I think f4j shouldn't be using her as an example, she's a good woman

[–]mochacola 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She can be nice to all her friends, doesn't mean she's all that nice when it comes to handling relationships. No different than a wife beater who can seem like a nice guy to all his other friends.

The point is, it is very, very easy for women to just make claims and kick father out of the picture.

[–]mushybees 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I agree, absolutely, but not in this particular case

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