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To the abusive feminist who demanded that we list all our accomplishments

desmay

July 14, 2015
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Title To the abusive feminist who demanded that we list all our accomplishments
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desmay

Upvotes 68
Comments 26
Date July 14, 2015 11:13 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3d8pew/to_the_abusive_feminist_who_demanded_that_we_list/
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Comments

[–]Lrellok 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

In answer to her question, nothing. Men, having no stake in the continuation of civil society, have no obligation to contribute towards its continuance.

It is, I feel, long past time for us to draw a larger destinction between natural rights and what are currently called social rights. I do not need a government to speak, and thus speech is a natural right. I need a government to have a trial, and thus fair and impartial trials are a titleledge.

Wait, "Titleledge"? What is that? It is the term I have coined for social rights, so as to destinguish them from natural rights.

All obligations come with entitlements. If I am required to follow the laws, then I am entitled to them being fair and impartial. What duty could I have to follow laws that are grossly and obviosly biased?

If I am expected by society to have a job, I an entitled to expect that that job shall compensate me to the expences of having it, plus some additional money for my inconvenance. If this cannot be done, why should I care if society thinks I should be working?

The impositions society makes upon the indevigual must be compensated by benifits to the indevigual. If this cannot be done, or if it is to expencive, society can keep its opinions as to what people should be doing to itself.

As all this relates to your article sir, mens obligation to contribute toward society is directly proportional to what men receive from society. And as feminists have not articulated what if anything men should be entitled to receive from society, mens obligation to contribute is null.

[–]Razvedka 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Keep in mind that all assertions of rights, natural or otherwise, are only legitimate through the use, or threat, of force. It is how they are preserved.

Force, incidentally, is entirely a male monopoly.

[–]Lrellok 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Non sequiter. The origin of rights is my autonomy as an indevigual, not my ability to hurt others. Though I may occationally have to use force to defend my autonomy, it is the autonomy and not the force from which the rights spring. I quote Ruessou

Again, should I happen to meet with a man so much stronger than myself, and at the same time so depraved, so indolent, and so barbarous, as to compel me to provide for his sustenance while he himself remains idle; he must take care not to have his eyes off me for a single moment; he must bind me fast before he goes to sleep, or I shall certainly either knock him on the head or make my escape. That is to say, he must in such a case voluntarily expose himself to much greater trouble than he seeks to avoid, or can give me. After all this, let him be off his guard ever so little; let him but turn his head aside at any sudden noise, and I shall be instantly twenty paces off, lost in the forest, and, my fetters burst asunder, he would never see me again.

To assert that right originate in force and violence is to assert that those who are most willing to use force and violence should have the most rights. This would invariably result in rule by sociopaths, and a return to fuedalism, despotism, and tyranny.

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The origin of rights is my autonomy as an indevigual, not my ability to hurt others.

Your autonomy is worth nothing if you can't defend it against others, and that may very well mean hurting them. If you do not have that ability or do not use it, rest assured someone else is exercising it for your benefit.

[–]Lrellok 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

O.o. Did you read any part of that after the first sentance?

[–]Razvedka -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm speaking in realities, not ideals. Basic fact of nature: the strong survive. Rights and grand ideals mean nothing without the resolve to inflict great violence.

Force is what impels people to the negotiation table.

Look at our history as a race. Look at our current rulers and those of the past. I would say ours is a proud history of being ruled by the ruthless, by those you may call sociopaths, tyrants, and narcissists.

It is with violence that rights are asserted, maintained and, if need be, restored.

This is not my ideal, it isn't what I want or dream.

It simply is.

[–]Lrellok 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I do not know what world you are looking at, but is see nothing of the sort. I see small minded petty thugs squandering the bounty of nature. I see a world with enough and more for everyone, wasted in the most stupid manner by imbiciles lacking all vision. If these are what you call leaders, then we would be better in a hobbsian state of nature, they would damage only the area they physicly occupied.

Oh, and "Is/ought" fallasy btw.

[–]Razvedka 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Neat.

I guess that means we are seeing two different views of reality.

Also, it's fallacy* not fallasy.

Edit: for that matter, I'd argue that your view is more indicative of this 'fallacy' than mine. I looked it up, and I don't quite see its applicability to what I've been saying.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hume's_law

"Hume's law (sometimes called "Hume's Guillotine"[1]), addressing what is referred to as the "is-ought" problem, states that you can't derive an "ought" from an "is". The law is also a rebuttal of the naturalistic fallacy, or inferring how the world ought to be from the way it is or was in the past."

All I've said is "here is the world, as it is. I may not be comfortable with it, things aren't what I wish they were but that's how the chips fall."

Edit Edit:

You also seem to be inferring that I approve of the sorts of people which are naturally drawn to power*, this is incorrect. I find it lamentable.

*http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/01/09/3140081/bridge-sociopathy/

[–]Lrellok 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My appologies then, I was under the mis-impression I was adressing a neofuedalist.

May I offer you a 6 hour youtube video by way of appology? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0nD5A9PoxlM

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well apparently we deserve the credit for getting Ellen Pao fired.

[–]flawlessqueen -18 points-17 points-16 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Men's Rights don't do anything for the advancement of men, a) because it's fundamentally grounded in hatred for women and b) because it shifts the blame for men's issues from the existing patriarchy (where they actually originate) to women or a supposed systemic pro-woman bias.

[–]GoogleOgvorbis 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How convenient that your belief system ensures that men are always wrong and women are always right.

[+]flawlessqueen -12 points-11 points-10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How convenient that your belief system aims to coddle men while oppressing women. That's that thing called sexism that you guys always complain about, right?

[–]blueoak9 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

while oppressing women.

The old "equality is misogyny" whine. Of course a privilege princess is going to experience being knocked off her pedestal as misogyny, but that's only because she is such an indulged, protected and spoiled little privilege princess.

The MRM is the radical notion that women are adults. That's what feminists hate so much about it.

[–]flawlessqueen -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The MRM is the radical notion that all men are special little snowflake victims because their mom yelled at them once.

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The MRM is the radical notion that all men are special little snowflake victims

The stink of projection swirls up off your every comment. That is a concise description of modern feminism.

[–]blueoak9 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

a) because it's fundamentally grounded in hatred for women and

Idiot. tell that to these women: http://honeybadgerbrigade.com/

[–]flawlessqueen -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those women are an embarrassment.

[–]Maschalismos 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To who? And why? Because they actually recognize men's humanity? Because they want to be treated like adults, rather that tweenie princesses?

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]sillymod[M] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please see our sidebar where we clearly state that advocating for violence is not welcome here.

[–]Corn-Tortilla -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't recall advocating violence. Lengthy prison terms are a common punishment for war criminals. In fact, didn't an old nazi war criminal just get a four year term the other day? 4 years sounds about right for feminist war criminals. And her forehead obviously needs some serious ventilation, as there is some foul gas spewing out of her mouth.

[–]flawlessqueen -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So I deserve death because I don't agree with you? That sounds like bigotry to me....

[–]blueoak9 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So I deserve death because I don't agree with you?

No, because you and your kind have harmed him and his little girl. Apparently you can't read.

[–]flawlessqueen -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I harmed "his little girl" by posting on the internet?

[–]Corn-Tortilla 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The policies and legislation that feminists like yourself have brought about have harmed people.

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