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As a white man, I'm surprised more women aren't tweeting the hashtag #KillAllWhiteMen (more misandrist hate speech in the Independent)

JohnKimble111

May 21, 2015
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Title As a white man, I'm surprised more women aren't tweeting the hashtag #KillAllWhiteMen (more misandrist hate speech in the Independent)
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 98
Comments 27
Date May 21, 2015 4:16 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/36roze/as_a_white_man_im_surprised_more_women_arent/
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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is how men get jobs in journalism - one of the requirements in papers like The Independent is that they have a history of joining feminist groups and so on.

Guys like this have basically made a Machiavellian choice of allying themselves to feminism so they can get work in progressive newspapers. They have probably also made a more fundamental choice of allying themselves with feminists, because they think they're going to win the long war, and as historical allies will be rewarded for their support.

With men like this, it isn't a question of guilt or self-hate - they are like everyone else, carefully picking whose side their on and judging their prospects accordingly. If he ends up at the butt-end of a bogus rape charge or at the end of the knife of a #KillAllWhiteMen lunatic, I'm sure he'll reconsider his choices.

[–]DAE_FAP 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As soon as he steps slightly out of line and shows the slightest compassion for men he'll be ostracised. It's happened before and will happen again. You can't ever become accepted by people who hate you for your skin color and sex.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

The author is probably just trying to write a clickbait rage article, so I've used an archive link.

[–]DevilishRogue 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, I didn't want to click the link from reading the headline.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the Independent Voices isn't really representative of the rest of the Independent, as the comments seem to be tearing this person apart.

[–]ralphswanson 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Clickbait much? Still, this victim-Olympics promoting white knight is sickening. Firstly, who thinks men would feel oppressed if women frequently propositioned them? Yet, we are to accept that women are oppressed if men pursue them, and even more oppressed if they don't.

KillAllWhiteMen...Personally I don't see why Bahar Mustafa should lose her job

Her job is to fight prejudice and ensure everyone feels accepted. She plays a victim, but she is privileged, white, able-bodied and from a well-to-do family. If the rules should not apply to her, then they should apply to nobody.

specially designed knives that are shaped to the exact curvature of a man’s ball sack is actually quite funny

Both the author and Bahar may need psychiatric help, but I think they are just asshats.

most radical, the absolute, most revolutionary political act a white person can do is shut the fuck up

Again, this professional victim is white. Women are not victims and do not deserve a pussypass. Politically incorrect people should not be encouraged to be silent. Today this is men. Before it was blacks, Jews and aboriginals. Rather, nobody should accept abusive speech against anyone.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Marcruise 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And there's a real difference there. Rich people are rich. When you're rich, you don't give a shit what ordinary shitmunchers think of you, because you're never going to interact with any of them. You live in your gated communities; you go to work in your Merc from your garage to a private garage; you have little islands of fiscal segregation dotted across the planet, from New York to London to Monaco to Singapore. You say to people, "You can hate me as much as you like, but as long I'm still rich tomorrow, I don't care."

Men in general, especially the young, have no such prospects. All young people need someone to take a chance on them, to show them that little bit of extra compassion, to get to a point where their lives can take off. The men in this category will be affected by the rising tide of socially acceptable sexism against them. I worry that what we're creating is a society full of young men in 'failure to launch' mode because no one gives them the break that all young people need.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White feminists who encourage white people to "shut the fuck up" are usually the loudest in the room. They just think they're allowed to shout because they're rooting for the little guy.

I am a huge supported of ethnic minorities in my politics - it is central to how I view the world that we help to empower the unempowered. But bourgois white liberals like this idiot are not the ones who are going to tell me what to do or when I should shut up. Half of them don't even associate with people from minorities - they are fighting to empower themselves over other white people, not to empower people from minorities.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Rather, nobody should accept abusive speech against anyone."

This is what I end up arguing with feminists. the concept that being hateful towards men, making up gendered pejoratives against men while "workings for gender equality" is the most hypocritical shit there is. If you're going to ignore men's issues, ok fine, I don't like the hypocrisy of that either, but at least don't become a hateful person who uses gendered pejoratives and promotes jokes about male genocide, and claim its for gender equality.

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The photo the article shows of the author looks exactly like what you would expect to see if you opened the dictionary to "self-hating white male"

[–]specterofthepast 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless he is going to support #KillAllBlackWomen as "funny, ironic, and thought provoking" I think he's right that he should shut the fuck up. I am tired of these shaming/silencing tactics that would cause mass outrage if they were targeting anyone but white men.

[–]Keiichi81 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why are so many males on the far left such cuckolds?

SJWs like to throw around how minorities can't be "racist" because "such a system wouldn't benefit them" (using the institutional definition of racism). Well let me ask a question. What does a white man stand to benefit from promoting #KillAllWhiteMen?

[–]DAE_FAP 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If history teaches us anything, they'll get the privilege of authority to police other inmates after all people like him are rounded up into camps. That's a long ways away now, though, so this guy's probably just thinks women will respect him for it.

[–]Marcruise 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What does a white man stand to benefit from promoting #KillAllWhiteMen?

You have to think of ideologies as like religion. Religions have been extremely important throughout human history because they allow for the development of social co-ordination. (An obvious example might be in agriculture - you help me with my harvest now, and I'll help you with yours in a week.) All religions involve costly, hard-to-fake displays of commitment. You have to attend a regular meeting that is made as deliberately boring as possible (hence the odd-seeming contradiction that the more churches try to make their sermons 'fun' and 'accessible', the more they fail). Thus, everyone else attending knows that you're committed enough to the belief-system that you will waste time in the same way they do, and thus they're much more likely to co-operate with you in some venture.

Religions are on the wane nowadays. This has created a gap in the market in terms of social interaction. Enter ideologies. Ideologies serve the same social function as religion. In a way, the beliefs themselves don't really matter, and, to some extent, the more ridiculous the belief, the better. Ridiculous beliefs require more commitment, and are thus better signals of 'you can trust me'.

So what does a cuck have to gain from being a cuck? Well, he is engaging in a ritual of public self-humiliation. (Here's a beautiful example). But that ritual has a purpose - it's his way of announcing to the in-group that he is a member of the in-group. He's saying "You can trust me". Whether he actually is someone you can trust is another matter...

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know, like a history of violence towards white men, led by non-white women.

Kebabs do have a history of violence towards whites.

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a history of violence towards white men

Like maybe two world wars and a few hundred civil wars. Like maybe men (of any colour) being the victim of assault at greater rates.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally I don't see why Bahar Mustafa should lose her job over it – it's ironic, funny and thought-provoking

#killallwhitemen is not ironic, funny, or though-provoking! Pardon my language, but what the hell! What makes people think that that is reasonable? If someone substituted any other group in there for white men they'd be social pariahs, but because we are white males it's okay!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What caliber of gun is being held to his head?

[–]bertreapot 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she looks so sane and normal in all the pictures you see of her

[–]Jarka_Ruus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's ironic

How? Can someone please just get rid of the word irony, not even writers are using it correctly.

It's funny

Subjective and dat double standard. #killall(non-white, male demographic) would be considered hate speech.

It's thought provoking

No it is not. Unless you count the thought "what fucking drivel!"

[–]AlexReynard 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's hope someone starts the hashtag #KillMaxBenwell and see if he thinks it's "ironic, funny and thought-provoking".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

literally Hitler...

Was the last person to successfully wage a campaign against people based on race, who wanted to commit genocide. I suppose white women would be spared, and non white men. A very specific type of genocide I suppose? Regardless, this is some very literal Hitler stuff.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MANGINA

[–]Zdrack 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So should we introduce him to the Intelligence Club? Or should I put it back away?

[–]baserace 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clickbait troll.

Ignore.

[–]escobari 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“the most radical, the absolute, most revolutionary political act a white person can do is shut the fuck up”. So, with all the requisite self-awareness, I’ll be quiet now. White men – will you join me?
So does this me you will give up your "reporters" job? No doubt you'll be spewing this bs same way in the future. The most radical, the absolute, most revolutionary thing for these self-haters is to kill themselves.

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