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Woman lied about abortion and gave man's baby to gay friend

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May 15, 2015
80 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-32757498
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Title Woman lied about abortion and gave man's baby to gay friend
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Upvotes 80
Comments 15
Date May 15, 2015 9:05 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/363ou5/woman_lied_about_abortion_and_gave_mans_baby_to/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-lied-about-abortion-and-gave-mans-baby-to.980158
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[–]againstAndrophobia 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Shouldn't this be treated as kidnapping?

[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why? At least one of the legal guardians (the mother) knew where the baby was and gave consent to it.

Is it kidnapping if you leave the baby with a sitter?

Is it kidnapping if you never told the father they were the father?

It isn't kidnapping as long as she is a legal guardian. It is wrong, very very wrong, but unfortunately I can't think of what crime has been committed. They say "fraud", so the only thing I can think of is the gay friend signing the birth certificate when they knew he wasn't the father.

A single mother who claims she doesn't know who the father is, is allowed to leave her child in the care of a friend for how long as she likes. She's still liable if anything happens, but just leaving the baby in someone else's caer is completely legal.

Had she just told them she didn't know who the father was (even though it's a lie) I don't think there would have been a crime here according the current law (anyone has better information?)

[–]lofilover 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think if it could be proven that she knowingly lied to the court, she'd at least get the perjury bomb dropped on her.

[–]xNOM 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Well lookie there. Add that to the lists of choices women have:

  1. have the baby
  2. have an abortion
  3. give the baby up for adoption
  4. tell everyone it's dead and give it to your gay friend

EDIT: /s ! /s !

[–]rg57 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

As a gay friend, I would have no part in this.

Aside from being morally wrong, it's not as if gay people need to breathe new life into the idea that we steal people's kids.

That guy is shit, and gay people should want to put him behind bars.

[–]YetAnotherCommenter 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed entirely.

This kind of activity just reinforces so many anti-gay stereotypes it isn't funny.

The gay man who did this is truly just as horrible as the mother. If he wanted kids, why not just jerk off into the cup and use it to artificially inseminate the woman? Surely there are more ethical ways for gay men who want to raise children, including adoption!

Maybe its UK laws? I wouldn't know.

But still... this is just bizarre.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he wanted kids, why not just jerk off into the cup and use it to artificially inseminate the woman?

RIGHT?!?!

[–]disposable-name 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aside from being morally wrong, it's not as if gay people need to breathe new life into the idea that we steal people's kids.

There's a joke I wanted to make there, but I won't out of reasons of taste (no, it wasn't homophobic...)

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

:-) i was not being entirely serious...

[–]Grailums 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder how carefully they are going to have to play this sentencing.

The only way to really do so would be to sentence them both for the exact amount of time. To give the woman a more lenient sentence would be an outright travesty and would further solidify how much women are treated like children.

On the other hand if you sentence a homosexual for a longer prison term it would show, once again, that every man is disposable in America/UK.

[–]theduncan 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The mother should be given a longer sentence, she was the master mind in all of this.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was her baby you misogynistic pig!

#shitfeministssay

[–]autotldr 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 83%. (I'm a bot)


During a six-day trial, the father told the court he had "Mourned" for the child after being falsely told by his former partner that she had undergone a termination to get rid of their baby.

The court heard the child's mother and her friend had signed the birth certificate and claimed to be the child's natural parents, but DNA tests later proved the other man was the child's real father.

The biological father told the trial he had been "Over the moon" when he discovered the woman - whom he had a three month relationship with - had fallen pregnant with his child.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Theory | Feedback | Top five keywords: child#1 father#2 told#3 Court#4 friend#5

Post found in /r/news, /r/MensRights and /r/nottheonion.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good result if she gets 5 years in jail.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha, not going to happen. She'd probably get that if she killed it and then gave it to her mate.

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