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Former student fails in legal challenge over Oxford's handling of rape claims. A former Oxford student has failed in her attempt to overturn the university’s policy on investigating complaints of rape and sexual assault.

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May 8, 2015
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/r/MensRights
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/may/08/former-student-legal-challenge-oxfords-handling-of-rape-claims-elizabeth-ramey-university-policy
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Title Former student fails in legal challenge over Oxford's handling of rape claims. A former Oxford student has failed in her attempt to overturn the university’s policy on investigating complaints of rape and sexual assault.
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Upvotes 72
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Date May 8, 2015 12:01 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]DavidByron2 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So she's trying to push American style "yes means yes" lynch mob law to the UK, and failed.

[–]HoboSamari 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean "yes sometimes means no... sometimes it may mean yes, but later it can be changed to no, even if I said yes".

[–]brokedown 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

There was a police investigation but no prosecution followed because of evidential problems.

aka there was no evidence that a crime was committed.

[–]walkonthebeach 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. What a wonderful "1984" way of describing it though!

It's a "problem" with the evidence, because there was none. And it must be a problem, because the "victim" must be believed, so the accused must be guilty, so if there is no evidence, that must be a "problem".

[–]the_satch 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

aka

also known as

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with this trending replacement for id est.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]the_satch 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Both abbreviations originate primarily from legal jargon. So, I'd say they're pretty equal in terms of "appearing smart."

A.k.a. is meant to be used in reference to an alias, while i.e. is followed up with clarification.

aka there was no evidence that a crime was committed.

Let's say it aloud:

Also known as: there was no evidence that a crime was committed.

Any educated person should hear the problem with that. Now, let's try this:

Also known as: lack of evidence.

That sounds much better. Do you notice how I followed it up with an alias and not a full-blown statement?

Now, let's try i.e., using its English equivalent:

That is to say, there was no evidence that a crime was committed.

See how those two statements make much more sense now that each abbreviation is being used properly?

I'm no grammar nazi. Because who cares, it's the fucking internet, right? I rarely spell check my text messages. I've simply noticed that this particular mistake is trending a lot lately, online and offline. Especially with the youngsters. I know our language grows and changes as we need it to, but using similar phrases interchangeably because we're ignorant of their precise meanings just serves to convolute it. Also, it sounds like shit when you say it out loud.

[–]brokedown 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's OK, comfort wasn't a goal! Cheers!

[–]aesopstortoise 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I expect that there will be a succession of attempts of this kind, the agenda being to bring in US style college tribunals. The 1 in 5 lie will not lay down and die.

How to protect due process?

[–]xNOM 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus christ lady, there's a reason the police exist. Do you want Oxford to build a prison to house these rapists, as well?

[–]HoboSamari 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I can see she is an American, who lists Democracy; Democratic Transition; Gender; Governance; International Development; U.S. Foreign Policy; Africa; East Africa; Southern Africa; West Africa as her expertise. One of these things isn't the same as the others.

Schools needs to get completely out of the process. If a rape happens it should only be the police who are dealing with it.

[–]InBaggingArea 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What a beautiful smile.

[–]DavidByron2 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They always grab the most flattering photo they can find for the women in these stories unless they want to slant the story as the woman being the bad guy.

[–]InBaggingArea 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Even so, good teeth.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL, was that some kind of Brit slam? :-)

[–]Deefry 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Snapshot for those who don't want to give the Guardian traffic.

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