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It’s not just indigenous women: Indigenous men more likely to be murdered than anyone else in Canada

joewilson-MRA

April 18, 2015
33 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/indigenous-men-are-more-likely-to-be-murdered-than-anyone-else-in-canada-745122
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Title It’s not just indigenous women: Indigenous men more likely to be murdered than anyone else in Canada
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joewilson-MRA

Upvotes 33
Comments 5
Date April 18, 2015 8:59 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/332ar4/its_not_just_indigenous_women_indigenous_men_more/
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Comments

[–]SporkTornado 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Statistics Canada data indicates 1,750 indigenous men and 745 indigenous women were murdered between 1980 and 2012.

2.3x more men than women are killed.

[–]rg57 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't it also true that when indigenous people are killed in Canada, it's usually by other indigenous people?

Typical liberal non-indigenous Canadians are being doubly-guilted into prioritizing this issue, when it's not our issue.

Once indigenous people decide whether to be normal Canadians like every other Canadian (of any other colour or ancestory or culture), or foreigners like every other foreigner, then we can start talking about whether Canada is to blame for anything.

But I will not support the rights of any "special" Canadians who are exempt from our laws.

[–]dakru 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't it also true that when indigenous people are killed in Canada, it's usually by other indigenous people?

Yes, and for the people painting this as an issue of "white people oppressing indigenous people" then that's a valid counter-point, but if we're painting this as an issue of "a lot of people are dying and there's a problem with that" then "well they were killed by other indigenous people" isn't really relevant.

It's kind of like how the fact that men are more likely to be killed is often dismissed by saying "but it's usually other men killing them". Yes, but the dead person receives no solace from the fact that their killer was in the same demographic group...

[–]Bear_naked_grylls 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this is an incredible article. As someone who is interested in men's issues as well as indigenous issues this whole missing indigenous women thing has really not sat well with me. I feel this is a really balanced, and tactful article which is effective at bringing the conversation about men forward. However, as always it seems, there is a token "but it's different for women". Which is unfortunate.

“For women, it’s 360 degrees – wherever they go, they’re vulnerable to being victimized. In their homes or in their communities or if they move to the city, they’re met with just as much violence,” she said. “With men, it’s different. A lot of it is nativeon-native crime. There are a lot of gangs, especially in the western provinces.”

The article literally just spoke about how they have problems which come from the same roots, and how 70% of perpetrators against indigenous women are also Indigenous. Also, this whole article talks about the issues and violence indigenous people face everywhere, and then this quote once again focuses back on the women.

[–]baserace 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was a round-table or something on this a month or so ago whereby feminist/DV pressure groups had demanded discussions with politicians. They were pissed off that nothing much came of it so far.

The side highlighting the plight of the indigenous men wasn't even at the table.

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