Whats the best way to deal with an extreme femenist. Its my sister whom i love, but whenever we get together she starts femenist arguments and then calls me sexist for pulling out facts about the ineqaulities men face. Apparently to them women can do no wrong

iainmf · 2015-01-27T08:11:32+00:00

Tell her that you don't want to argue and would rather spend time enjoying her company.

2015-01-27T10:47:01+00:00

Yeah, as someone who has had many discussions with my brother, my best advice is to just drop it. She won't admit you're right no matter what happens because you're siblings.

2015-01-27T07:41:33+00:00

Do not even try to change her mind. Get on with your own life and find a partner who is infinitely more important to you than a sister and who has a different view. Most women believe in equality and are not feminists.

RunawayGrain · 2015-01-27T19:03:13+00:00

Tell her you love her as a sister, but that she is so toxic you can't be around her. Then distance yourself as much as possible. She will either get the hint and drop it when you are around, or she wil continue. If she continues, just keep your distance.

Just make your boundaries clear, don't get angry, and take the time to talk to her if she initiates... but get disinterested and leave when she starts bringing this stuff up.

Frontfart · 2015-01-27T15:25:40+00:00

Call her a cunt.

ToonTheShed · 2015-01-27T14:32:19+00:00

"What you think you're accomplishing by being a feminist and what feminism is actually doing to society are two different things."

I especially hate arguing with a feminist and they bust out the classic, "Which girl hurt you in your past? Was it an ex-girlfriend? Do you have mommy issues?" I would hope your sister doesn't use personal attacks on you though. Seriously though why can't feminists argue properly? Always straight to insults.

MRSPArchiver · 2015-01-27T07:12:26+00:00

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intensely_human · 2015-01-27T18:17:34+00:00

Since it's your family, you deal with it by valuing your roles as brother/sister over your roles as feminist/sane person.

Don't talk gender stuff with her.

DavidByron2 · 2015-01-27T18:23:51+00:00

Keep pulling out the facts, keep making her angry.

Your only other alternative is to end up thrown in prison (or some other man she loves) over something blatantly unjust and sexist against men in which case if she has any heart she'll maybe get it. But that's not a nice way to do it.

2015-01-27T19:52:47+00:00

Send her the Factual Feminist videos. Because she calls herself a feminist, feminists are more inclined to listen to her.

2015-01-27T20:43:50+00:00

She's your sister.. you're allowed to insult her back. Almost your duty as a brother.

Pantsyr · 2015-01-27T21:43:04+00:00

Your sister's not a teacher per chance? Mine is. Decided to explain to me at length how radical feminism differs from traditional in that it seeks to replace male based systems and structures with female based ones. I listened patiently then rejoined calmly with "Thus seeking to replace an injust set of structures with another set purposefully and knowingly designed to be equally injust in the opposite direction". She decided to talk to other people for the rest of the evening. Which was quite fine by me.

Allevil669 · 2015-01-28T03:02:44+00:00

Your sister is lost to a cult. There is very little you can do to get her back. My advice is to cut her out of your life completely. Just like as if she had died.

This advice isn't what you're looking for. It's harsh. It's blunt. But, it's true. You can never win with a True Believer^tm.

User-31f64a4e · 2015-01-28T16:05:22+00:00

You're trying to score points by bringing up facts; it's not working as they get ignored or discredited.

Instead, ask questions when she makes a feminist statement. Eventually you will expose the false premises on which it stands.

2015-01-27T13:19:04+00:00

My sister's the same way. We absolutely hate each other now. We went from going out and drinking together to just pure hatred. It won't get the result you want but I'd steer the course and keep presenting facts. There's something did disconserning about doing anything else.

Avoiding the fight all together is probably best but I've never met a feminist who didn't love to bring it up, and letting someone have that abusive power play of being the sole person allowed to voice their viewpoint, and voi ing it frequenrly, is not something I'm comfortable with.

2015-01-27T12:13:13+00:00

Learning to spell would be a start.

InBaggingArea · 2015-01-27T15:55:49+00:00

Socrates. Start reading Plato. Meno, phaedo, Euthyphro. Try to be like Socrates.

Alternatively, just ignore her.

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