A quick question

Methodius_ · 2014-07-30T14:36:41+00:00

NotAllMen spawned from the feminist claim that "men are rapists" or "men are entitled like Elliot Rodgers".

YesAllWomen spawned from a similar claim that every women has somehow been catcalled, sexually intimidated, sexually assaulted, or raped by a male in her life.

baskandpurr · 2014-07-30T13:27:58+00:00

They are tags from Twitter. Due to the back and forth debate of gender rights there are response tags as well, there is a #YesAllMen and a #NotAllWomen. They are about the common debate tactic of discounting a statement because it only applies to a subset of people.

A feminist might claim that 'men are rapists' and you get a #NotAllMen. There are corresponding cases for #NotAllWomen. #YesAllMen might be used to argue that all men do in fact have some negative trait. They can be used sarcastically and as parody.

The nature of Twitter tends to produce less actual debate than sites like Reddit. Everything has to be condensed into simple terms, which promotes simplistic thinking. This comic may have influenced the tags.

chocoboat · 2014-07-30T14:48:42+00:00

It originated during discussions among women where they were talking about problems they have with men, during which a man would make stupid and pointless interjections to defend the male gender.

For instance, a woman is talking about how she gets catcalled on the way to work at least twice a week, and that the last time she went to a bar there was a guy who wouldn't leave her alone after she told him she's not interested. Some random dude interrupts to say "not all men are like that!", which is stupid and irrelevant to her own story.

Apparently this happens often enough that "NotAllMen" because a thing that feminists say they hear it all the time, and see it as a sign that many men stupidly try to silence women from making valid complaints.

They decided to respond with a "YesAllWomen" Twitter campaign, to show everyone the female point of view that many men never get to see. They would post things like "I have to watch my drink at all times to make sure some guy doesn't slip something into it #yesallwomen" and "#yesallwomen because the media will mourn the lives of ruined high school football players, but not of the girls they assaulted".

All of this was perfectly sensible and reasonable, and the Twitter campaign was effective at teaching some people things they didn't previously know about. But then, the anti-male morons showed up.

They started posting hate speech accusing all men of being potential rapists, saying men are animals that can't control themselves, that men can't be trusted, that men are responsible for all of the harm in the world, and so on.

Reasonable men, taking offense to the hate speech, had to tell them "yes there are some rapists and criminals out there, but not all men are like that, in fact the vast majority of men never do these harmful things, stop trash-talking an entire gender".

The morons declared victory because the response contained "not all men" in it, which to them proved that men are terrible and that their hate speech is justified.

At this point the men started bashing the "yesallwomen" hate speech... then the original sensible women thought THEY were being attacked by the men, and the whole thing just turned into garbage.

DavidByron2 · 2014-07-30T16:42:53+00:00

They are twitter tags created by feminists as anti-male hate speech / activism.

Title	A quick question
Author	Jesusman100
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Date	July 30, 2014 12:52 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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