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[The following text is a copypasta from my another comment in this very comment section]

Research on exactly what the foreskin is supposed to perform during sex. You lose approx 70% of your sexual sensitivity (if your frenulum gets cut as well then 90%).The foreskin is connected to several important glans in the brain and they function to give a superior sexual sensation and release hormones like oxytocin during inter course that help you bond better with your female partner. It is not just a "flap of skin ", it is one of the most specialised set of skins. Further the glans is keratinized as well so you will further lose sensitivity.

Go to r/CircumcisionGrief r/Intactivists, r/intactivism, r/Foregen and r/Foreskin_restoration to see how much people who know about foreskin hate being cut. It is literally handicapping men sexually and preventing them from a proper sexual inter course for life.

Oh, btw sex with foreskin feels better for women as well due to the gliding action, as compared to an uncircumcised penis roughly jamming in.

PS: This is a rough estimation on what it is supposed to do. It has much more functions.

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By heat sensitivity study, study of the number of nerve endings in the structures lost in circumcision (frenulum, ridged band, special cells in the foreskin etc etc) and taking into account the keratinization of glans. Just fucking go to r/CircumcisionGrief, r/Intactivists and r/intactivism to see how much it matters. It is NOT anecdotal nonsense.

Never heard of these special hormones that men release during sex.

That is due to common ignorance of people on men.

Also what would some skin have to do with that? The glands of the Endochrine system produce hormones - not the skin.

First of all calling foreskin just skin is bringing down the severity of male genital mutilation. Secondly, foreskin has nerves and cells connected to the regions and gland in brain which during inter course sends signals to brain causing oxytocin to be released helping in better bonding with the female partner. And anyway uncircumcised penis feels better for women as well.

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So there is NO actual scientific study that has determined that removing part of the scrotum reduces sensitivity. Because they cannot possibly do it. You would have to take a large group of men and somehow get an accurate rating of the sensitivity of their penis before circumcision and then one after. This is already impossible as it would be relying on humans to rate their sensitivity. So would be using inaccurate measurements.

So no such data exists.

You still have not explained what removing some skin has to do with your glands releasing hormones. The scrotum is certainly skin. There are no cases of all of it being removed. So if it triggers a hormonal release then men with a circumcision will still trigger that same release.

None of this is useful at all.

Bonding with the partner is a completely man made concept and has nothing to do with sexual intercourse.

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You seem to have forgotten this:

https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/az/c/circumcision/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-circumcision.html

This is a link from the Health and Safety Executive website. It explains the pros, and cons of getting circumcised. The pros to getting circumcised are, and I quote,:

-circumcision reduces the risk of developing a urinary tract infection (UTI), which include infections of any part of the urinary system, such as the bladder -circumcision reduces the risk of getting some types of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) such as HIV -circumcision reduces the risk of developing cancer of the penis (penile cancer)

The disadvantages of circumcision are, and I quote:

-reduced sensitivity - an uncircumcised penis is more sensitive than a circumcised penis, meaning that circumcised men may experience less pleasure during sex -potential complications of circumcision - such as excessive bleeding and post-operative infection (which is a low chance of happening). And it says that another “disadvantage” is that you don’t get to choose, which, I’m not sure why it’s that big of a deal. So not only were you wrong, but there are more advantages than disadvantages.

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Research on exactly what the foreskin is supposed to perform during sex. You lose approx 70% of your sexual sensitivity (if your frenulum gets cut as well then 90%).The foreskin is connected to several important glans in the brain and they function to give a superior sexual sensation and release hormones like oxytocin during inter course that help you bond better with your female partner. It is not just a "flap of skin ", it is one of the most specialised set of skins. Further the glans is keratinized as well so you will further lose sensitivity.

Go to r/CircumcisionGrief r/Intactivists, r/intactivism, r/Foregen and r/Foreskin_restoration to see how much people who know about foreskin hate being cut. It is literally handicapping men sexually and preventing them from a proper sexual inter course for life.

Oh, btw sex with foreskin feels better for women as well due to the gliding action, as compared to an uncircumcised penis roughly jamming in.

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A patriarchal society has in a lot of cases made women privileged? I'll just give a small example and you can generalize things yourself. When it comes to violence , men face far more violence than women(like wars). Are men doing this to each other? Yes. But does it mean that women have it easier when it comes to violence? also yes. This is their PRIVILAGE. This is how patriarchy benefits them. Women have it easier than men in many many aspects.

You do understand that feminism is literally about getting rid of such patriarchies?

I know that. But it only cares about fixing issues on women's side(consider radical feminism). It wishes to equalize things by bringing women up or men down. It does not fix men's issues. Also you should know enough that there are MANY types of feminism. Consider pink pill feminism perhaps. It was literally just hating on men. PLUS you speak as if everyone actually follows feminism the way it is supposed to be theoretically. NO. IN REAL LIFE NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT MEN. They want to say all nice bullshit like 'we are doing this for you' but thats just a selling technique. I would rather have a men's oriented form of ideology like meninism to fix men's issues rather than women who don't understand us are want to fix our issues by either hating on us or by putting us down.
No one's actually reading or following the perfect theory of feminism(again depends on which one you refer to). There is a hard disconnect between theory and practise. In practice feminism is very much becoming misandrysm. So stop giving me that feminism is fixing men bullshit. The world is not your textbook.

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A patriarchal society has in a lot of cases made women privileged? I'll just give a small example and you can generalize things yourself. When it comes to violence , men face far more violence than women(like wars). Are men doing this to each other? Yes. But does it mean that women have it easier when it comes to violence? also yes. This is their PRIVILAGE. This is how patriarchy benefits them. Women have it easier than men in many many aspects.

Yes women suffer far more sexual violence than men. When you don't count prison stats (but that's more of a failure of the prison system)

This is their PRIVILAGE. This is how patriarchy benefits them. Women have it easier than men in many many aspects.

Wow, thats not how a patriarchy benefits anyone.

Let me get this straight. You think the patriarchy is good because it leads to violence against men?

I know that. But it only cares about fixing issues on women's side(

No it doesn't. It fixes issues on both side. Radical feminists aren't feminists.

It wishes to equalize things by bringing women up or men down. It does not fix men's issues.

That's false. I'm not sure if I've said previously but you can't name a single issue that only men face that isn't caused by either toxic masculinity or a patriarchy. So dismantling the patriarchy helps everyone. It fixes both men and women's issues.

Also you should know enough that there are MANY types of feminism.

Nope. There are feminist who's support feminism and femenazis that don't support feminism.

Consider pink pill feminism perhaps. It was literally just hating on men.

Those people aren't feminists.

PLUS you speak as if everyone actually follows feminism the way it is supposed to be theoretically.

Most do. Feminazis aren't feminist.

NO. IN REAL LIFE NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT MEN

False. Feminists do.

They want to say all nice bullshit like 'we are doing this for you' but thats just a selling technique.

False.

would rather have a men's oriented form of ideology like meninism to fix men's issues rather than women who don't understand us are want to fix our issues by either hating on us or by putting us down

You are aware the Meninism isn't real right? It's an excuse for misogynists to get together and hate women feminism by definition is a out equality. Meninism is not. Feminism doesn't put men down. Meninism thinks women should be property. I know, I've talked to several on this sub who were. They think women shouldn't come forward about their assault and that they should just live with it. That's it's mens right to rape women.

No one's actually reading or following the perfect theory of feminism

Nope they are. You just focus on the vocal minority of crazies who aren't feminist.

There is a hard disconnect between theory and practise. In practice feminism is very much becoming misandrysm.

No there isn't. You just like everyone on this sub think the vocal minority of feminazis represent feminism as a whole while in reality they aren't feminist.

So stop giving me that feminism is fixing men bullshit.

Then stop being willfully ignorant.

I dare you to make a single issue that is unique to men that isn't caused by toxic masculinity or a patriarchy.

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Yes women suffer far more sexual violence than men. When you don't count prison stats (but that's more of a failure of the prison system)

yeah and men suffer far more violence than women. The women are privilaged than men in many aspects.

Let me get this straight. You think the patriarchy is good because it leads to violence against men?

No i think it is horrible. But women have it better than men in many aspects and they are more privilaged in many aspects in a patriarchal society. Also know that patriarchy is just a stupid construct. People came up and associated things like 'violence' with something of 'maleness' and patriarchal in nature. The construct itself is retarded. Its a vague term and is horribly developed and defined and developed in every way.

Radical feminists aren't feminists.

Who the fuck are you to decide that? Just because you say so? There are hoards of women following it and hoards of women who consider it as true. And just when men like us want to oppose that feminism , dumbasses like you want to tell us that isnt real feminism? And what is real is certainly not defined by what youre going to comment on a subreddit. That reality EXISTS. They are RUINING LIVES. THEY CONSIDER IT AS TRUE. Its subjective.

There are women out there ruining lives out there and calling themselves feminists. It doesnt matter what feminism is in theory if in application none of it is applied.

They want to say all nice bullshit like 'we are doing this for you' but thats just a selling technique.

What about shit tonne of women who say we are doing it for and are actually as you said 'feminazis'?

Nope they are. You just focus on the vocal minority of crazies who aren't feminist.

More like a massive majority. Youre clearly unaware.

I dare you to make a single issue that is unique to men that isn't caused by toxic masculinity or a patriarchy.

Does not matter. Feminism says things in 'theory'. In practise , that is HARDLY the case except some cases like 'factual feminists'.

Nope. There are feminist who's support feminism and feminazis that don't support feminism.

What 'nope' dumbass? Read the feminist literature. Just because you say 'nope' to something it does not mean it doesnt exist.

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yeah and men suffer far more violence than women. The women are privilaged than men in many aspects.

Being highest victims in sexual assaults isn't a privilege. As for the "many aspects" you gave one example that isn't even a privilege.

No i think it is horrible. But women have it better than men in many aspects and they are more privilaged in many aspects in a patriarchal society. Also know that patriarchy is just a stupid construct. People came up and associated things like 'violence' with something of 'maleness' and patriarchal in nature. The construct itself is retarded. Its a vague term and is horribly developed and defined and developed in every way.

Many aspects, you have yet to name a single one. Patriarchy is not a construct. You seem to ignore one of the most telling examples, the US Presidential election. If you had a male and female candidate with exactly the same credentials running for exactly the same party the vast majority of the time the man is going to win. Just look at trump. People will vote for men for the sole reason of not electing a woman.

Who the fuck are you to decide that? Just because you say so?

Because it isn't. You really shouldn't be talking as you have no idea what you're talking about.

There are hoards of women following it and hoards of women who consider it as true

False. Unless you can give me an exact number or percent. The issue with you people on this sub. Youve never met real women. You think all feminists are the ones you see on dank memes.

And just when men like us want to oppose that feminism , dumbasses like you want to tell us that isnt real feminism?

It isn't real feminism. Stop creating an enemy of something that isn't. Youre entire belief system and that of this whole sub is built on a generalization.

That reality EXISTS. They are RUINING LIVES

Oh please, everyone ruins lives. Stop putting it all on a group you evidently know nothing about.

There are women out there ruining lives out there and calling themselves feminists.

Yes and there is men out there advocating for mens right to rape women and calling themselves egalitarian. Does that mean all egalitarians think the same way?

. It doesnt matter what feminism is in theory if in application none of it is applied.

Nope all of it is applied in application. You just refuse to see it and instead focus All if your attention on the tiny group that doesn't.

What about shit tonne of women who say we are doing it for and are actually as you said 'feminazis'?

This doesn't make sense. I think you may have forgotten a word somewhere but context clues aren't helpful. Feminazis won't ever get their way. Their way isn't feminism. Real feminists think feminazis are just crazy.

More like a massive majority. Youre clearly unaware.

Oh a massive majority? Can you source that. See the issues I'll reiterate with you and this whole sub is that you've never met a real woman and the only think you know about feminists are the fake a photoshopped pictures you see on dank memes. Pull you head out of your ass and examine the world how it is.

Does not matter. Feminism says things in 'theory'. In practise , that is HARDLY the case except some cases like 'factual feminists'.

Nope it's majority of the time the case. Should I call all egalitarians rapists because a minority of them advocate for mens right to rape?

What 'nope' dumbass? Read the feminist literature. Just because you say 'nope' to something it does not mean it doesnt exist.

I never said it doesn't exist. I said that it's a very vocal minority. You're the one who's using nothing but anecdotal evidence to justify sexism.

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Privilage: an advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group. Yeah women have an advantage(privilage) over men in many aspects.If you want a list read on 'gynocentrism'.

If you had a male and female candidate with exactly the same credentials running for exactly the same party the vast majority of the time the man is going to win. Just look at trump. People will vote for men for the sole reason of not electing a woman.

What are you basing that off on? Any research? Also cite the research which does not follow a transformational paradigm of feminism and is not funded by a feminist agency. Research also shows women are more likely to be get help if they are in danger. If men fuck up or get depressed they are MUCH less likely to get help. I'll cite it as soon as i find the article.

Because it isn't. You really shouldn't be talking as you have no idea what you're talking about.

Youre not giving me a 'reason' for why it isnt. Something as subjective as that is being FOLLOWED by people. Radical feminism IS FOLLOWED by women. It has REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES. Why is something less real than other? Are you only going to talk about the good side of feminism and as soon as people talk about the bad side you give a bullshit statement of it being not 'real'

False. Unless you can give me an exact number or percent. The issue with you people on this sub. Youve never met real women. You think all feminists are the ones you see on dank memes.

What? You really think ALL men in this sub have ONLY met women in dank memes? Are you really sure of that? Is that really your reasoning? I am doing my masters in psychology. And we have about 4 males in class for a class of 120. Same has been in bachelors. And you speak as if YOU can give an exact number of good feminists out there.

Oh please, everyone ruins lives. Stop putting it all on a group you evidently know nothing about.

How do you know i dont know anything about with them. I am surrounded by them. Stop making dumbass assumptions.

Nope all of it is applied in application. You just refuse to see it and instead focus All if your attention on the tiny group that doesn't.

Its hardly tiny. Thats the issue.Also me and the sub never meeting women is a really bad assumption.

Oh a massive majority? Can you source that As if you can source the massive majority of 'real' feminists. There's a reason why men's rights have come into play. Its because of horrible treatment of men by women.

I never said it doesn't exist. I said that it's a very vocal minority. You're the one who's using nothing but anecdotal evidence to justify sexism.

You did say its not 'real' which means it doesnt exist. It does exist and it has horrible consequences. Also you CANNOT really discriminate between 'real' and 'horrible' feminism out there. People also work in phases. Sometimes good sometimes bad. I would rather have men fixing men's issues than some dumbass entitled women.

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Privilage: an advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group. Yeah women have an advantage(privilage) over men in many aspects.If you want a list read on 'gynocentrism'.

So you can't provide any examples then. Typical.

What are you basing that off on? Any research? Also cite the research which does not follow a transformational paradigm of feminism and is not funded by a feminist agency. Research also shows women are more likely to be get help if they are in danger. If men fuck up or get depressed they are MUCH less likely to get help. I'll cite it as soon as i find the article.

Just like you base your hatred of feminism of anecdotal evidence and nothing solid. So why is that okay for you to do but not others?

Youre not giving me a 'reason' for why it isnt. Something as subjective as that is being FOLLOWED by people. Radical feminism IS FOLLOWED by women. It has REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES. Why is something less real than other? Are you only going to talk about the good side of feminism and as soon as people talk about the bad side you give a bullshit statement of it being not 'real'

Jesus Christ you're deluded. Radical feminists aren't feminists. They're beliefs aren't feminist. Like shit how can you not understand simple English? Yes and egalitarianism and rape apologist are most often men. So you're gonna brand all egalitarians as rape apologist?

What? You really think ALL men in this sub have ONLY met women in dank memes?

Yes

Are you really sure of that?

100%

Is that really your reasoning?

That's your reasoning and this subs reasoning

I am doing my masters in psychology.

Doubt. If that's the case it shouldn't be hard to explain simple concepts to you.

And we have about 4 males in class for a class of 120. Same has been in bachelors. And you speak as if YOU can give an exact number of good feminists out there.

The majority of them.

How do you know i dont know anything about with them. I am surrounded by them. Stop making dumbass assumptions.

Yet it's okay when you make dumbass assumptions? Man you're a walking contradiction. surrounded by them? Lol.

Its hardly tiny. Thats the issue.Also me and the sub never meeting women is a really bad assumption.

Nope it's tiny. No it isn't. I asked a guy from this sub to show me exactly where the bad women hurt him and he literally linked me to a dank memes post with some over exaggerated twitter text.

Oh a massive majority? Can you source that As if you can source the massive majority of 'real' feminists. There's a reason why men's rights have come into play. Its because of horrible treatment of men by women.

Jesus Christ you really have no idea what you're talking about. Tell me, for a "masters in psychology" do you understand what a victim complex is?

You did say its not 'real' which means it doesnt exist.

Nope. I said the feminazis don't practice real feminism. You really are having hard times reading for a masters student.

It does exist and it has horrible consequences.

I asked for those consequences and you never gave me any. Stop fear mongering over a boogeyman.

Also you CANNOT really discriminate between 'real' and 'horrible' feminism out there.

Yes I can. The "Horrible" Feminist you talk about ARENT FEMINIST. Seriously what part of this can't you understand? Let me make it simple for you. A dog is not a bird. A dog can say it's a bird but a dog is not a bird. Is that helpful?

People also work in phases. Sometimes good sometimes bad. I would rather have men fixing men's issues than some dumbass entitled women.

Jesus Christ please do some real research. Feminism isn't "women helping men" it's equality everyone helping eachother. Like you really are incapable of free thinking that you routinely ignore the fact that men are the reason for men's problems. The root of all men's problems are misogyny, toxic masculinity and a patriarchy. I think I challenged you to find me a single issue that men face that isn't caused by other men.

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So you can't provide any examples then. Typical.

I gave you the example. Google it up. You want me to type out all examples in one post? Youre the dumbass who didnt look it up and read the literature.

Just like you base your hatred of feminism of anecdotal evidence and nothing solid. So why is that okay for you to do but not others?

I cited the journal article. It wasnt anecdotal

Jesus Christ you're deluded. Radical feminists aren't feminists. They're beliefs aren't feminist.

Same statement. Why arent they feminist? Because bwackdoge said so.

Yes and egalitarianism and rape apologist are most often men.

Bullshit.

Nope. I said the feminazis don't practice real feminism. You really are having hard times reading for a masters student.

There is no 'real' feminism. You cannot call all the good side of feminism as 'real' and the horrible side as unreal. Its like a rapist saying that only the good he has done in his life is 'real' and the rapes dont count.

You did say its not 'real' which means it doesnt exist.

Nope. I said the feminazis don't practice real feminism. You really are having hard times reading for a masters student.

I'll quote where you said that below. My reading is fine . You seem really bad at it though:

It isn't real feminism. Stop creating an enemy of something that isn't. Youre entire belief system and that of this whole sub is built on a generalization.

A dog is not a bird. A dog can say it's a bird but a dog is not a bird. Is that helpful?

The distinction is not large. Its like a pug saying 'I am not a dog'.

Jesus Christ please do some real research. Feminism isn't "women helping men" it's equality everyone helping eachother

My ass. It's just women helping themselves and putting down men.

Nope it's tiny. No it isn't. I asked a guy from this sub to show me exactly where the bad women hurt him and he literally linked me to a dank memes post with some over exaggerated twitter text.

Generalizing from one person to a whole subreddit. Horrible reasoning.

Jesus Christ you really have no idea what you're talking about. Tell me, for a "masters in psychology" do you understand what a victim complex is?

Yeah its shit tonne in a lot of feminists out there.

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I gave you the example. Google it up. You want me to type out all examples in one post? Youre the dumbass who didnt look it up and read the literature.

No not all the examples I asked for one.

Same statement. Why arent they feminist? Because bwackdoge said so.

No because they're beliefs go against feminism. Let me explain this to you in a way that makes it simple. A bird can say it's a dog but no matter how much a bird says it's a dog it's not a dog.

Bullshit.

Nope. Also ironic that you're allowed to make generalizations but get upset when people do it to you. Typical behavior for this sub.

There is no 'real' feminism.

Yes there is. You can look it up it's a pretty simple concept of equality

You cannot call all the good side of feminism as 'real' and the horrible side as unreal.

Like I said the people you're calling feminist aren't feminist. They're ideals are not feminist. A dog is not a bird.

I'll quote where you said that below. My reading is fine . You seem really bad at it though:

Well evidently not. Feminazis aren't real feminists. Try actual research.

The distinction is not large. Its like a pug saying 'I am not a dog'.

Nope. They are 2 entirely separate things. Dogs and birds. Femenazis are as much feminist as you are a fish.

My ass. It's just women helping themselves and putting down men.

No it isn't. Why is this sub full of fragile men? Tell me genius. What do you think you're losing?

Yeah its shit tonne in a lot of feminists out there.

Well they're victims of oppression. You are not, you pretend you are but you're not. From the beginning of what we understand as modern society women have been subjugated.

Crawl back to MGTOW. Stop pretending to be egalitarian when you're just misogynistic.

You don't lose anything from females getting empowered you're just unjustifiably upset that you don't personally gain from it.

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Oh yes, patriarchal religions that favour only women and push men under the bus for everything.

What. The. Fuck. You mean the patriarchal religion that literally have women as property. So you honestly believe that women should be subjugated then? For an egalitarian sub all of you are very misogynistic.

Also I suggest you stop generalising all participants of this subreddit as woman haters when you are unwilling to see that thepeople who you are siding with want nothing but to cause you harm and considering what you're arguing have already caused you immeasurable suffering and you see no harm in passing it forward.You are worse than the man you're talking about.

Fine then. Bring out someone who isn't a women hater. If I find a single person who isn't I'll stop generalizing.

It's funny how you say I shouldn't generalize then,

people who you are siding with want nothing but to cause harm

Immediately follow it up with a generalization.

considering what you're arguing have already caused you immeasurable suffering and you see no harm in passing it forward.You are worse than the man you're talking about.

What? Nothing im arguing has caused me any harm. Common sense isn't harmful unless your ignorant.

The fact that you think I'm worse than a guy who beat raped and cheated on every partner he had because I poke holes in your fragile belief system paints you as the horrible person. You already seem to think women should be privileged to be men's property.

If you choose to answer it do try to glance at my username, you'll find that I'm not the one who said it is like rape, but I do think it is worse than rape as Male Genital Mutilation is not something you can recover from and it carries over into your entire life, drastically altering it.

I never once said it was worse than rape. They are 2 entirely seperate issues. Genital mutilation if bad no matter who it happens to female or male but you also can't say that there isn't men who enjoy being circumcised. I know several who love it.

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What. The. Fuck. You mean the patriarchal religion that literally have women as property. So you honestly believe that women should be subjugated then?

What the hell made you jump to that?

Fine then. Bring out someone who isn't a women hater.

Every single person on this sub, would you mind stopping now?

Immediately follow it up with a generalization.

This sub is dedicated to being anti-"kill all men" feminists, I find a generalisation completely acceptable when we are pointing out the filters in a filtered subgroup.

The fact that you think I'm worse than a guy who beat raped and cheated on every partner he had because I poke holes in your fragile belief system paints you as the horrible person. You already seem to think women should be privileged to be men's property.

You either did not understand a word of what I just wrote or have realised your initial opinion was wrong sometime in the last 12 hours since we talked and are now just unwilling to say it.

If it's neither one of those then I would like to tell you that the way you prove something is not by taking what you want to prove as the assumption.

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What the hell made you jump to that?

The fact that you said patriarchal religious favoured women but threw men under the buss.

Every single person on this sub, would you mind stopping now?

That's absolutely false. For example, I talked to someone on this sub a few days ago who said women should keep quite about their assault, that they should live with sexual harrassment because it's mens right to do so. I've also talked to someone on this sub who thought men needed to control what women wear and that women should be dressing according to what men think is beauty. So you're wrong.

This sub is dedicated to being anti-"kill all men" feminists, I find a generalisation completely acceptable when we are pointing out the filters in a filtered subgroup

So you're a hypocrite then and your backpeddaling. If this sub was the anti-feminazi it would be named as such. No you and every other fragile male on here generalizes and attacks anyone who labels themselves a feminist. Then gets upset when you get generalized. Why don't you crawl back to MGTOW?

You either did not understand a word of what I just wrote.

Possibly, it didn't make any sense. My response was in direct response to what you wrote.

You said I was worse and more harmful than the other guy I talked about. The only person I talked about was the guy who raped, beat and cheated on all his partners.

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I gathered data for the past 5 years on why boys are being illegally circumcised.

Women who want a "sexy penis for their son",

Clearly you did not gather any data. You mentioned Orthodox Jewish. Judaism is one of the Abrahamic religions. The Abrahamic religions are patriarchal by nature. You said the priests cut it off and suck on it. Orthodox Jewish rabbais can't be female. So please tell me where you gathered this "data" from because I can guarantee its not done only because women want it done. I think you just have a deep seeded hatred for women. You want to blame women for all your issues but I'm sorry to break it to you, the act of circumcision is a product of a patriarchal system.

So you're saying FGM is a farce but get upset when you think people don't support your beliefs? Leopard, meet face.

Are you advocate or carrying out any activism to get the procedure ended or do you just bring it up as a strawman argument on the internet when you're met with fact that's disagree with your world view?

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Wikipedia actually states that the husband stich is believed to be an urban legend with only accounts being women who claim to have undergone the procedure without their consent. So unless you claim that the procedure is some cognitohazardous SCP, you are wrong about it even being a medical procedure.

You do realize you're contradicting yourself?

Learn how to research

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/husband-stitch-is-not-just-myth#:~:text=A%20husband%20stitch%2C%20or%20daddy,of%20a%20male%20sexual%20partner.

He says while arguing in favour of MGM.

Really? I want you to use all 3 of your brain cells and show me exactly where I was arguing in favour of genital mutilation. I'm not the one arguing that FGM doesn't exist.

Guess we know who's taking the gold for Mental Gymnastics.

You. It's the only thing that explains how you can be so misogynistic but still think you're right. It's also not a generalization when supported by evidence. The only person I've talked to in this sub who wasn't misogynistic admitted that the sub is very misogynistic. I've had people tell me that it's mens right to rape women and that women should be quiet and live with sexual harrassment. I've had men tell me that women should dress how men want them to and shamed women for not living up to the man's standard of beauty.

Title	Feminist logic
Author	IntactBroadSword
Upvotes	412
Comments	191
Date	August 9, 2020 2:56 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
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