Psychologist Refutes Red Pill Logic

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A lot of women seem to like this video. Now they feel protected. Women may be more academically educated because they don‘t fall out the system most of the time because they are conformist. They do what other people say what they have to do. Jesus if men didn‘t do anything back when slavery was a thing in america they would still be slaves. Only when men created feminism (Charles Fourier - probably to get p*ssy) these women got entitled. But let there be ww3 or any scenario where the stronger survives this stuff won‘t matter anymore. Come on it would be absolutely stupid of nature to have everyone have different preferences in males. We would be the first species probably in the entire universe.

But the best point was when he said that women are the new men😂. Haven‘t seen a female electrician yet, where are the female roofers, tilers, road workers. They rather do social jobs https://careersmart.org.uk/occupations/equality/which-jobs-do-men-and-women-do-occupational-breakdown-gender In my country (Germany) women make the majority of university students but not even a quarter do STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics). Jobs which really make money. These men carry society and we should thank them. They are the heroes.

Women are much more picky on tinder because they don‘t find most men attractive https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4?gi=ab3e794f8154#:~:text=The%20median%20female%20user%20receives,to%20like%20over%2050%20women. Also there pornhub search is mostly lesbian, threesome and massage. What does this tell you?

He put so much work in his sweet huge project but I don‘t see any studies. Never disagreed with a video more in my life.

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Excuse me you even said that they don‘t need as ANYMORE which is obviously true (to survive-most of them still need attention to survive). But they weren‘t fine by their own the last 300.000 years. Only when men created this world we now live in since 80 years or so. Why is it that women are unhappier than 40 years ago? If they were suppressed all those years why did they never free themselves. It took men never longer than a couple hundred years if they were unhappy with the situation. Only when men created feminism they got entitled. And even then most of the women didn‘t vote in my country 1919 because most of them don‘t give 2 dams about politics only every 4 years when it’s election. The reason they don‘t drop out of school is exactly that they try by nature not to fall out the line. It’s in every country the same, most dropouts are men. Not because they are dumber, but because they are used to create, do their own shit or just don’t have a father figure because most dropouts are from single households or abusive parents which is really bad for men. For women not so because at the end they do as them told but men don’t. Or did you know what you want to to when you were in 8th grade. Most don’t we just go there because of various reasons but we all know we have to. Men are providers and female are receivers by nature. Which doesn’t mean that they are less valuable no they are much more valuable then men. In WW1 and WW2 Germany lost like 11-15 men and many elderly died. They were all replaced very quickly because women were speared. Men are replaceable but women aren’t. In every war in every crises women were the last to suffer because we want to provide for them. It’s in our DNA because our genes even say that women are hard to replace. But let me tell you. They don’t give a shit what you did for them. They take everything for granted and you do too obviously. Men keep this society going and some strong women who can do this because men created tiny little computers so that they don’t have to work that hard anymore. I‘m talking to a wall. The fact that you like this narcissist ”psychologist“ shows me you only want approval by someone with status who supports your opinion. Don‘t believe me believe science, believe history. Don‘t look what other’s are saying look what they are doing. This psychologist never linked one study because he‘s a fraud with 200k subscribers. That’s all.

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Man, I don't understand why you bother. If you believe what the RedPill says about women, that we're hybristophiliacs, hypergamous and all that crap. Why does it make you so sad that men no longer have to support and provide for them? Why does it bother you that grown women who will surely betray you because of "their nature" are more unhappy because they have to fill their own mouths? Why does it bother you so much? If you are so convinced that you are a hero because you have a penis, go, build your own civilization and leave us alone while we pay our taxes and vote for our candidate for election every four years. On the other hand, you talk about sources and studies, but the RedPill provides no solid sources or studies for what it touts. And on this site we have discussed about them. But then again, it's completely useless, neither basic logic nor evidence changes the opinion of angry, ridiculous little men like you.

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Look at the Ukraine. Men fight and women can leave. Men are even dragged out the bus by soldiers to defend their country. Found out yesterday that men who lift and abuse steroids are way way more likely to have daughters. The Y spermatozoa reacts way more to stressdamage than the x one. In 2000 they already found out that the body can regulate what gender your offspring can have (or make it way more likely). In 2016 they could prove it.

In short wars females were produced more so they can produce children to grow the population (humans always lived in groups so the body thinks of others in your group too even if you are a „lonely wolf“ which isn’t natural btw- humans are meant to be social). In longer wars more males were produced probably to protect women since the others all died by that point. I want to see that if the war in Ukraine goes on how many females vs men are born. Normally more men are born than females.

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"Don‘t believe me believe science, believe history"

but if nothing you have said is scientific XD.

Starting because that's not how genetics works, human behavior is influenced by many factors and just as genetics can also influence the environment and many other factors, and even genetic influence is not rigid and these can change according to various factors, so that such a thing as "It's in our DNA because our genes" is pure pseudoscience.

With the "Men are providers and female are receivers by nature" the same naturalistic fallacy, to begin with, there is no such nature, these roles are mainly something cultural and it is something that can vary depending on the society and time, in fact that idea is relatively recent that appeared with the neolithic, before that it was not something common

https://study.com/academy/lesson/roles-of-women-in-the-stone-age.html

It is not about the nature of something, they are ideas that change over time

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Unfortunately I can’t read all because i‘m not a member. Of course men didn’t hunt 24/7 like here they also help in the household. But i would love to know for example how many dead bodies they found on former hunting grounds. Because they found men who were killed in the act of killing a mammoth for example. Women almost never left the safe space of the camp only to pick berries. Kids were raised by the group that’s correct, and boys were taught hunting at a certain age. They all grew up with positive examples how to behave naturally in the group and fullfill their role as men and women, even if one parent died, didn’t matter. That’s normal but now there are more fatherless households than after WW1 and WW2. No positive father figure and they were not taught how to have a healthy relationship between men and women. But people like you really believe that we grew out of stuff like this because circumstances changed. Our genes want to survive and how we did it 100.000 years ago brought us to 8.000.000.000 people. Why change than? Makes absolutely no sense. And this takes longer than a few thousand years.

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It is painful for me to see every gentleman justify that men are no longer educated with "it's because we are not conformists blah blah blah". Let's get back to reality, having more education, despite everything, gives you more opportunities in life. Men have problems right now. They are more diagnosed with ADHD, and behavioral problems in school. They are underdiagnosed with depression, and they commit suicide more often. They also have problems self-regulating and with independent work at younger ages, which puts them at a disadvantage with girls, who are calmer. Also perhaps the school model itself is disadvantaging men. The days are longer than they used to be. It used to be that boys would go to school for a couple of hours and come home or go out and get rowdy with friends. Now they come home exhausted to do homework or play video games. Anyway. Your stupid delusions about how they are less conformist is not going to help them. But as usual, men would rather throw dirt on successful women and brag than actually care about their own sex. Why that might be.

And about careers: I see, so nurses, psychologists, doctors, lawyers, educators, are not heroines. I don't know what Florence Nightingale would say to you if she saw you. I think it's very understandable why any area that is feminized ceases to be lucrative: it's undervalued in favor of anything that men deal with. Studying physics is better than nursing the wounds of sick people, save lives or defend innocent people in a trial. And dropping out of school is better than having a master's degree. Yes, we've seen you.

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You had me in the first half ngl. But then you had to throw it up😢. Nurses are undervalued. In Germany we Need like 35.000 nurses for old people and better sooner then later. But we don‘t build a stable society from cleaning other peoples buds. Who says that dropping out of school is better then a masters degree? Typical women always exaggerating everything. Nah just kidding. To be honest I kinda don‘t agree with the hypergamie thing 100%. It‘s not like every women is looking out 24/7 for the better deal but it is proven that women don‘t find most men attractive as I shown earlier. And without attraction especially physical attraction most women will leave you sooner or later 80% divorce rate for women vs men only 20%. It’s hard for men to be mens. Like you called me little. Women can almost never be too small or to tall. I’ve seen a women the other day she was like 6‘5. Her boyfriend was like 6‘8 or something. Women can just wear makeup and increase their looks dramatically. Men can’t do that. They have to workout like 1-2 years but there is still the face. Like I don’t have any problems I‘m 21 almost 6‘ definitely not ugly, god genes. But I noticed major problems by my friends and hadn’t had an answer. It’s tuff when you are not atleast 5‘9 or good looking as a man and pray if you are both.

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Another five year old with his links that we have already discussed hundreds of times on this site. The 80/20 disparity is because Tinder and other dating apps are full of men. The demographic disparity makes women more demanding. And the same thing happens the other way around, in religious communities where there is a surplus of women, guess what: men are more demanding. It's not that hard to understand. But let's move on. 70-75% of people are having sex right now. (Yes, people, celibacy is similar between men and women). Explain to the staff how those hot 20-something women, who are at the peak of their attractiveness and above in attractiveness of anyone in the sex market, are super hypergamous and don't enjoy fucking the guy next door. 🤡 ) 'Look what they do, not what they say'. Well, 70-75% of women are fucking 70-75% of men. Not 20% of them. Solved.

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In which country are men more demanding? Men would pretty much fuck anything. All of your guy friends would smash you instantly if you would call them 100%. In Muslim country’s most people are men (world wide 105 men : 100 Women). When they marry more than one partner they have to be pretty weahlty otherwise the father will not allow his daughter to marry him, so polygamy isn’t that huge as you think it is. Bro just look at this: https://features.inside.com/why-arent-men-in-their-20s-having-sex/ My Generation has less sex. Especially men, especially men. The guy next door is only in your dreams. Most men are pussys now days and don‘t feel good enough for women. But you can’t understand this. We are not in the same boat. Yet have to find a sympathetic women. The most sympathetic persons I know are all men. In order to be sympathetic you have to be reflective imo…and the majority of people, especially women aren’t. I know tons of virgin guys who are average looking but I don’t know one average looking virgin women. The top 15-20% of men slay all of them you can be happy when they are done with them. My guys get cheated on all the time. They maybe would too but they have no other options. They are happy to have one. As a women you just have to exist. How many of your boyfriends did you approach by yourself? How many nice guys did you turn down because they are not your type vs how much did you get rejected. Men have it so much harder then women when it comes to sex (when you are not good looking). Women can always wear makeup and get laid. As I said man are providers and women are receivers by nature. You have the power. We are the addicts you are the dealers. And now it’s ok for women to be demanding as you said. What pisses me off is that it is what it is and people like you still say it is not like this.

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I don't have a boyfriend. I have never had a boyfriend. I am part of that youth without sex, without friends and without many emotional ties in general.

I haven't had to turn down anyone but my boss, a 40-year-old married man who abused me while I worked in his store. And I've been turned down by men my age constantly. (Oh, here i' comes: 'b...but those men where cHaD' bc it's f impossible to accept the reality of lonely women)

How I hate it when some little RedPill man comes in to explain me my supposedly wonderful sex life that only exists in his head.

Can't you count?

I acknowledged in my previous comment that there is a portion of men and women who are not having sex. But the majority are having sex.

It makes no sense for RedPill to posit that women in their 20's are at their peak of attractiveness and at the same time say "hypergamy" when the majority of them according to his same theory are having sex with men their own ages, i.e. men below their attractiveness. And when the ratio of male to female celibacy is similar. It is not so complicated to understand.

Another thing, which you would know if you had read any of this sub actually: men are picky, as much as women are, for long term relationships. So yes, to have a relationship with a man you don't have to just "exist". And for sex, if there's a big demographic difference, (like now on Tinder and, actually, some places) they'll obviously go for the prettier ones. I think you should learn more about incelism throughout history, because depending on what periods and times, men or women were celibate.

About the sources attached, one I already commented on and has been commented on about 279283929292929282 times in this sub. And the rest seems to me more of a derivation of a literal and nitpicky interpretation of what Vaknin said. It's simple, men and women are focusing on their careers, whatever they are, and having ambitions away from the family, when up until now women were the ones who were supposed to be more concerned with getting married, having kids, etc. That's why he says that there are no women now. How f insecure you have to be to don't f understand that sh and make a speech about how men are heros bc they study STEM and sh.

Edit: Literally what you said about Muslims is just what happens on Tinder. It's not due to an intrinsic characteristic of women that happens, it's the demographic imbalance itself that plays tricks and puts men at a disadvantage. There are a lot of men out there and obviously the best will be chosen.

But I'm not even talking about Muslims, if not American religious communities where there are a crisis between women because there are not enough men.

(At what point did I say that polygamy is common? My understanding is that polygamy is not even natural - yet another reason to conclude that 80/20 is stupid - but a product of a social contract).

I'm fascinated by how you go from saying men will fuck anything to talking about criteria for matching women (no, women and their families) for LONG TERM relationships. One night stand sex and marriage are different things for men and women, and for marriage men have just as many standards as women.

And I come back to the same thing, young women for just fucking are choosing men their own ages. And according to RedPill, women in their twenties are higher in attractiveness than men in their twenties. It's ridiculous to call that hypergamy.

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A lot of women seem to like this video. Now they feel protected. Women may be more academically educated because they don‘t fall out the system most of the time because they are conformist. They do what other people say what they have to do. Jesus if men didn‘t do anything back when slavery was a thing in america they would still be slaves. Only when men created feminism (Charles Fourier - probably to get p*ssy) these women got entitled. But let there be ww3 or any scenario where the stronger survives this stuff won‘t matter anymore. Come on it would be absolutely stupid of nature to have everyone have different preferences in males. We would be the first species probably in the entire universe.

But the best point was when he said that women are the new men😂. Haven‘t seen a female electrician yet, where are the female roofers, tilers, road workers. They rather do social jobs https://careersmart.org.uk/occupations/equality/which-jobs-do-men-and-women-do-occupational-breakdown-gender In my country (Germany) women make the majority of university students but not even a quarter do STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics). Jobs which really make money. These men carry society and we should thank them. They are the heroes.

Women are much more picky on tinder because they don‘t find most men attractive https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4?gi=ab3e794f8154#:~:text=The%20median%20female%20user%20receives,to%20like%20over%2050%20women. Also there pornhub search is mostly lesbian, threesome and massage. What does this tell you?

He put so much work in his sweet huge project but I don‘t see any studies. Never disagreed with a video more in my life.

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Title	Psychologist Refutes Red Pill Logic
Author	redpillnonsense
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Date	January 20, 2022 1:03 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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