The redpill exit | ExRedPill

I became a redpill MGTOW Incel all that stuff in the manoshphere back in 2018 its been tbh the most excruciating painful years of my life looking back at those days while being in those communities. I was basically driven in with the thought of women are at fault, men are superior and youre lonely because you are a beta and the rest well is hate driven. I was driven to depression anger and just even sucidal as i was angry. Ruminating in anger really messed my relationships with good friends and got me into toxic ones with some other redpilled incel people. Fast forward to 2020 a good friend of mine made me realize that in reality I was blaming women for my faults, i never tried with women as i expected them to approach me and them do all the work instead of me. It was fallacy what I was thinking as i observed people like the supposed chads they also have to put in the effort to gain womens attention. And also a video I saw of a man that got burnt up having attention from the ladies. This got me off from the whole manosphere that it isnt what the redpill community is saying. A month ago I decided to leave everything in those communities and just better myself, exercising and even working on approaching women, as tbh I am scared to no point in approaching them. Ive been happier since ive left the redpill community and feel like a weight has been lifted. And even feel less stressed out about everything. Its an easy seduction to get in kind of like joining the dark side of things easily seduced by hatred and all. However im happy to hear some people have also broken free.

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I used to be a MGTOW yes As I used believe in females being just "Hyp" word and also because I also used to believe women were interested in the MLS pattern, after a closer look at society and especially women it really does not work like that at all sure it may apply to some but not everyone. When I was talking to some MGTOW people it really ws just because they wanted to improve themselves rather because they cant get a partner or because they do not want to fall under the paradigm of just having to share or support women and basically simp if you will or be a cuck, I actually got a lot of flack from them as i told them one time I matched on a dating app with a single mother and they all blasted me for being a cuck ended up in me deleting the app and losing a chance. They do believe what the say yes from my personal experience and it is really easy to become MGTOW to those who find themselves in a situation of lonliness how i got picked up by certain channel on youtube too. Peer pressure did not seem like a factor at the time for me cant speak for other MGTOW.

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It's a rabbit hole. It's a very gradual process. Very few people just wake up one day and go, "oh boy, I'm going to avoid women forever and be single!" It usually starts off with someone who had a traumatic experience with a woman, someone with little luck in dating, or maybe an older man who got divorced. They check out RedPill for some advice, usually getting hooked from the PUAs on YouTube and other "coaches." Then, they start reading some of the common RedPill teachings: "Women can never truly love you the way that you love them," "shes never yours, it's only your turn with her," "alpha fucks beta bucks," etc. This is detrimental to the mental health of many men. They begin to think things like, "well shit, if this is female nature, I don't want anything to do with them!" And thus, inceldom and MGTOW are born. And why wouldnt they? What, should they just "become an alpha"? The only issue is, theres always going to be someone more "alpha" than you. Always a bigger dude out there. Always someone richer than you. Always someone more attractive than you. If you subscribe to RedPill ideology, you're just a temporary piece until she inevitably finds that guy who's slightly got you beat. This type of thinking is exhausting. So, yeah, sometimes men can find a degree of RedPill that can arguably be healthy, but to many its detrimental.

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Because there are more potential for complications and a higher overall risk vs dating a woman without kids. For example if you date a single mom long enough then you will most likely form a bond with her kids which can hurt a lot more if the relationship ends. This happened to a friend of mine. He dated a divorced woman who had 2 little kids. They were together for 7 years and lived together for 5 of those. So he pretty much usurped their bio fathers role in their lives since he saw those kids 80% of the time while the real dad was only allowed to see them 20% (One weekday night and every other weekend. Which is so incredibly fucked up in itself but that’s a different topic all together). In the end they drifted apart emotionally and had a mutual break up which is common and understandable, so no hard feelings there. However, she didn’t allow him to continue the relationship with her kids because she didn’t want to “confuse” them. And frankly, she made the correct decision IMO. A clean break is better for those kids since he wasn’t their dad. Unfortunately though it hit him really hard. Much more than he expected and way harder than the loss of his relationship their mom. I mean he really felt like a father for most of that time so he mourned that loss for almost a year. He still brings them up from time to time and its been over 4 years since they broke up. So that is one thing you need to take into consideration. Your are not necessarily just dating a single mom depending on how the relationship evolves. You could end up taking on a whole new family. With all of the parental responsibilities but none of the parental rights.

Also, in some states and Canada you can actually be on the hook for financial support if you live with a single mom for a certain amount of time and set a precedent through financial support when you were living with her and her kids. Even if you never get married. So that's something else to take into consideration depending on where you live. The other thing that you need to be aware of when you date a single mom is her time with you will be very limited because of all the logistics involved. Getting a babysitter, sleeping over, getaways together, etc. If they are good mothers then their free time will be very limited. Like I said it’s just more complicated and riskier than dating a woman without kids. BTW, dating single dads also present some of those same risks and complications. I also know a women who had big problems in one of her previous relationships because of his kids and the ex-factor. It was the main reason why she ended it. Just too much stress and constant drama. It’s just typically not as much since most single dads don’t get awarded that much time their kids. But it can definitely be rewarding in certain cases. I know some great single moms. One of my closest friends recently became a single mom after almost 15 years of marriage. I have even dated a couple single mothers and had a good overall experience. Like any other relationship, it just depends on the person. And the ability of both parties to maintain perspective and expectations in the relationship.

But to answer you question directly, the RP guys tend to avoid single moms for some of the reasons like the ones I listed above, combined with the fact that most of them don't seem interested in LTR's or marriage in general. Let alone taking on unnecessary risk to have a LTR or marriage.

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Title	The redpill exit
Author	Yaycutietie
Upvotes	26
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Date	February 1, 2021 3:29 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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