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[–]CountingDownTheDays5FDS Apprentice74 points75 points76 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To inform everyone who is not aware. Feminism in it's beginning stages (which took place in the 19th century) did not aid/ nor include black women. So correction feminism now includes black women, but previously it believed in the oppression of black women. Hence black women beginning their own forms of feminisms which coined terms such as misogynoir.
Be warned black women, black men will use this fact to keep you from believing in feminism. They will also condemn it because it never wanted you to be a part of it. It is very important black women be aware of this fact, but I implore you to uphold the key points of feminism which is female equality. And find a space that is safe for black women and practices feminism. Also remember BW being cautious is something that should be practice due to the fact that spaces are not always welcoming to us (even if it claims to be feminist). However the central idea is most important.
Black men don't (like many men) want to admit they themselves destroy the black community. LOL a story told by many but little listen. I did however, want to inform those who did not know.
[–][deleted] 71 points72 points73 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You hear this from men, “feminism destroyed the nuclear family”, “feminism destroyed society”, etc... These men think feminism brainwashed women into wanting careers instead of husbands and children. But really they denied us the choice to have careers and forced us to be wives and mothers. The oppression of women kept the nuclear family and society together. But did anyone say thank you to these women that society was build upon? No way. There needs to be a better way.
[–]superderpina_FDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
intersectionality is a thing.
[–]ShortandRatchetFDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Intersectionality is bad for black women. Most non-black women are not allies to us.
[–]UnstrirringCoffeeFDS Apprentice21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Wasn't intersectionality coined by black women, to describe the experiences of dealing with the toxic stew that emerges when you are a target of both racism and misogyny? The term was eventually hijacked by liberal feminism and now has a totally different conotation.
[–]ShortandRatchetFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Probably, black women can’t have anything in this world
[–]neverinneFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, it was Kimberlé Crenshaw who coined the term. She wrote a case study focused on Black American women and their legal treatment. Now, it’s pretty diluted and got away from its roots - she said herself:
She compared the experience of seeing other people talking about intersectionality to an “out-of-body experience,” telling me, “Sometimes I’ve read things that say, ‘Intersectionality, blah, blah, blah,’ and then I’d wonder, ‘Oh, I wonder whose intersectionality that is,’ and then I’d see me cited, and I was like, ‘I’ve never written that. I’ve never said that. That is just not how I think about intersectionality.’”
(src)
[–]UnstrirringCoffeeFDS Apprentice2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for that link. It's a very interesting read.
[–]CountingDownTheDays5FDS Apprentice29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your user name had me dying. And I stated this above and on r/FemaleLevelUpStrategy every black female space is safe for all women, but seldom are other female spaces safe for black women. We have to be extremely careful as I stated above. Feminism did not include us at first, and with that being said some space still refuse to include us.
[–]justnoanonyFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So much this. I’ve been involved in the feminist movement since the 80s (in varying degrees subject to personal commitments). Back then, we were so concerned about carving out spaces for women, we didn’t stop to ask whether we were including ALL women. We didn’t address the different needs of women of colour. We didn’t include them in the way we should have. I was very young then, so I didn’t see it or understand it. But then time passed and I kept seeing this same concern - and justifiable anger - from women of colour who said that feminism didn’t help them, that it actively failed them.
We are all sisters and it’s not enough to pay lip service to this. Please know that some of us are not in denial over it. I suppose a reasonable response to that would be “ok, so what are you going to do about it” and I honestly couldn’t answer.
[+]yesmmeFDS Newbie-6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is true. For Black female spaces, although they welcome all women, I stay in my lane and act as a guest. The same can’t be said for white feminism which, in actuality, is colonialism.
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