One thing I’ve noticed is low value people really lack nuance.
Men in particular often fall into two extremes :
Needy delusional woe is me wimp who goes through more subtle desperate guilt tripping measures to control and manipulate women (usually above his league) into tolerating him. Very me me me and emotionally taxing. Needs constant ego stroking & someone teaching him how to be a man & do things. Often uses mental health / money & family issues to guilt trip. Is delusional about himself & wilfully ignores cold signals from women. Self victimises himself by convincing himself cold women with zero sexual interest have ‘led him on’ or ‘used him’ when he was forcing favours on them to get sex. Usually batts way out of his league, again because of delusion and entitlement, often stemming from porn. Draining.
OR
Aggressive overtly offensive scrote who is more confident / calculated/ scrubs up better and may even be better looking but brings far more overt disrespect to the table (such as serial cheating/ gaslighting/ triangulation) and thinks he’s gods gift. Often heavily overestimates his value and openly brags about himself belittling the woman (a cope to mask his insecurity) and overly oversteps the mark trying to seem too masculine, controlling, brash and assertive, to the point where he’s so rude and selfish, the woman sees no point in sticking around and doesn’t feel emotionally connected. Like he’s trying to ‘destroy’, conquer and crush her more than anything, all for his ego points. Constantly ramming into her boundaries, belittling, causing drama on purpose, emotionally withdrawn and hostile. Too much hassle and immature. Exhausting.
For example. Women will say ‘I want a man who isn’t a total wimp mommy’s boy that expects me to constantly perform emotional labour for him’.
Low value men read that as ‘ahhhh women want a cheating aggressive brute asshole then, I get it’.
When women say ‘I don’t want a manipulative control freak brute who constantly humiliates me and makes my blood pressure spike’, low value men at the opposite end then read that as ‘ahhhhh I should be a persistent entitled wimp that never takes no for an answer and constantly tries to guilt trip her into sex by pretending I’m a really nice guy though I only lend her my stuff / do nice things with the expectation she rides my dick.’
This guy isn’t the BETTER sensible choice for not being a cocky brute upfront either. Emotionally manipulative wimps like to go through the avenue of sexual coercion and guilt tripping instead. Pushy escalating pick up artist tactics.
Covert narcissists. You know, poor me I’m such a great guy and no one wants me. I’m sooooo alone. Everyone runs away I just don’t understand. Women are shallow and evil and I’m just so genuine. All my ex’s are big meanies. You won’t leave me if I do all this calculated nice stuff, will you? I thought you’re better than that. Different to the other girls...
Oh look, a vulnerable woman out of my league on discount, let me zoom in on her and pretend to be an innocent friend offering emotional support. Later I will try to push her out of the friendzone when she clearly isn’t attracted to me whatsoever. But it’s not really about her, it’s about me, my ego and my dick because I’m such a nice guy, different to the shallow manipulative others, obviously. Never mind she doesn’t find me attractive and I’m a slobby couch creature, cos I’m actually only a hop away from being rapist and don’t really care if a woman wants me, since I’m going to push her where I want.
Then I’ll do a bunch of calculated nice things so I can coerce her into unwanted sex and guilt trip her until she feels bad, like she must owe me a relationship. Because I’m SO nice and genuine. That’s why I never chase women in my league and constantly harass and sexually coerce my much better looking female friends. Who I only pretend to be friends with in the hope one day they’ll have a mental breakdown and I can circle like a shark and get laid. See I’m so much nicer than attractive fuckboys like that. Totally not rapey at all. I bring the same audacity, I’m just more covert and less attractive/ more delusional.
Most self proclaimed nice guys are anything but. Socially tone deaf, entitled wimpy men with superiority complexes and grand delusions about themselves and the sorts of women they can get. They just expect attractive smart confident women to fall in their lap, lower the bar and simp over them.
Now this is where the missguided red pill nonsense comes from.
You take one of these loser gormless wimps like above....and tell him ‘you need to lift bro’ , ‘dress better’, ‘be more confident’...and they throw him some typical pick up artist script which of course he’s eager to pay for, because duh.
Suddenly he finds himself doing perhaps marginally better with pick mes, who were already quite easy to please to begin with. And then with a few experiences upping his esteem, he starts to do better & bag a few more. Usually at that point. Wimpy red pilled bro is full of life & gets a bit too big for his boots pushing a target too far, tries negging & triangulating one of the big cats, & firmly gets slammed back in his place........because truly he hasn’t changed at the core. He’s still weak and insecure. He’s actually started acting in far more sociopathic ways than a typical fuckboy would. Really bringing the audacity for what he is, since remember he’s not all that, which is why he got red pilled. Serial cheating, highly emotionally abusive/ emotionally hostile but thinks he’s a good guy for not smacking her in the face. He’s not confident, nor a HVM and heavy relies on manipulating women for validation.
But let’s be real, his marginal ‘success’ probably has far more to do with the fact he’s lost 20 pounds of flab, started wearing jeans that don’t fall halfway down his butt crack instead of cringey cartoon clothes and got a haircut / shower this week. Well yes that would absolutely change how some women initially receive them. That doesn’t mean he’s unlocked some secret revelation about evil female nature and that women are shallow....it means he stayed ignorant to women’s needs and was socially retarded / delusional too long.
Realistically he is still selling dreams to get laid and can’t keep a HVW too long. He relies on breaking someone down to stay up, not a great strategy as once he’s done with said target, and he’s manipulating several, they will become far more hostile / mistrusting and fussy with men. So essentially fuelling women’s hypergamy and justifying their suspicion to men. Polluting the pool as such.
This is a big problem women have with men in dating. Too many men swing from one extreme to the other. They don’t understand nuance and being balanced.
For example. My first boyfriend to be fair, was good looking, fit and a nice simple guy who wouldn’t cheat. But that was IT.
He had no real substance. No real sense of humour. No real personality or style. No real hobbies outside sport. He was just ‘nice’. I eventually got bored of dating him and seeing him as some unicorn just for not being an asshole.
We didn’t have enough in common. He had no nuance.
Now I talk to my postman sometimes because he’s ‘nice’ that does not mean he makes me go googoo gaga and I want to commit decades to him.
Nice is very basic. Basic decency. It doesn’t imply chemistry or compatibility for longterm relationships.
But this doesn’t mean I want to commit to some brash, cocky, belittling immature goon who constantly derives joy from trying to humiliate me and cheats behind my back constantly, putting me at risk to STI and ruining my mental health . It doesn’t mean I need to constantly be knocked down to stay faithful. Why would I want to put in effort to an emotionally robotic / withdrawn and hostile man who’s deliberately leering at waitresses and triangulating me. Who’s insecure unless he has full control. Who’s constantly sabotaging any chance of peace, love or happiness, who’s actually making my life more draining/ difficult and bringing out the worst in me. These types of men overstep the mark and are forgetting we can choose to walk away. We aren’t obliged to stay and be their forever girlfriends/ emotional punching bags/ McMommy servants to pump up their fragile sense of masculinity. They have to be making our lives better than they are single, for us to stay.
Being high value is about nuance! Not being a total pushover needy wimp or a disrespectful angry control freak.
Most women seek a man who is stable and sits inbetween those two extremes. That is why they’re constantly dissatisfied.
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