TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

  • Subreddits

      Popular

    • /r/askTRP
    • /r/TheRedPill
    • /r/MarriedRedPill
    • /r/MensRights
    • /r/MGTOW
    • /r/PurplePillDebate
    • /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
    • /r/seduction
    • /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
    • Other

      • /r/AllPillDebate
      • /r/AlreadyRed
      • /r/altTRP
      • /r/AntiFeminists
      • /r/askFDS
      • /r/askMRP
      • /r/askRPC
      • /r/becomeaman
      • /r/BlackPillScience
      • /r/Chadfish
      • /r/Divorce_Men
      • /r/EverydayMisandry
      • /r/ExRedPill
      • /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
      • /r/FeminismStopsWhen
      • /r/GEOTRP
      • /r/MalePsychology
      • /r/Male_Studies
      • /r/MenSupportMen
      • /r/MGTOW2
      • /r/MuslimRedPill
      • /r/newTRP
      • /r/PussyPass
      • /r/PussyPassDenied
      • /r/RedPillBooks
      • /r/RedPillParenting
      • /r/RedPillWives
      • /r/RedPillWomen
      • /r/RedPillWorkplace
      • /r/RPChristians
      • /r/ThankTRP
      • /r/TheRedPillStories
      • /r/trpGAME
      • /r/TRPOffTopic
      • /r/TrueBlackPillMGTOW
      • /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre
  • Blogs

      Popular

    • A Voice for Men
    • Dalrock
    • Good Looking Loser
    • Heartiste
    • Married Man Sex Life
    • Return of Kings
    • The Power Moves
    • The Rational Male
    • The Spearhead
    • Other

      • Alpha Game
      • Archwinger
      • Artful Prudence
      • Black Label Logic
      • Caleb Jones
      • Captain Capitalism
      • Corporate Machiavelli
      • Days of Game
      • Deep Strength
      • Dicipres
      • Donal Graeme
      • Female Misogynist
      • Free Northerner
      • Gaming My Wife
      • Hawaiian Libertarian
      • Illimitable Men
      • In Mala Fide
      • Justice for Men and Boys
      • Kill Your Inner Loser
      • KillToParty
      • Krauser PUA
      • LaidNYC
      • Mensactivism
      • NO MA'AM
      • Omega Virgin Revolt
      • Pook's Mill
      • Random Xpat Rantings
      • Red Pill Theory
      • Red Pill Wifery
      • RedPillDad
      • RedPillDoctor
      • Rian Stone
      • RooshV
      • Seasons of Tumult and Discord
      • Sigma Frame
      • The Feminine Woman
      • The Futurist
      • The Masculine Principle
      • The Modern Man
      • The New Modern Man
      • The Obsidian Files
      • The Private Man
      • The Red Pill Room
      • The Red Quest
      • The Rules Revisited
      • Troy Francis
      • Wintery Knight
      • Woujo
      • Young Man Red Pill
  • Books
  • Dictionary
  • @TRParchive
  • Support

Interesting study shows that stories written by children are more likely to have male characters. Interesting implications. The study suggests that children inherently have a positive image of males.

coffeeinvenice

August 17, 2021
64 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
https://phys.org/news/2021-08-stories-written-children-male-characters.html
Archived from /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates

r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is a place for the discussion of men's issues from a left wing perspective.

TheRedArchive is an archive of Red Pill subreddits and blogs. This page is our copy of the original post.

/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates archive

Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

PDF TXT EPUB
Support the archive

Everything here was supposed to disappear. Banned subreddits, deleted communities, cancelled blogs — much of what is archived here survives nowhere else.

It stays free — no paywall, no account — for the next man who comes looking, the way it was free for you.

I pay for the servers, the storage and the bandwidth myself. If you want this record still standing in ten years, become one of the people who keeps it online.

Support the archive

Share
Share Tweet Reddit Email
Post Information
Title Interesting study shows that stories written by children are more likely to have male characters. Interesting implications. The study suggests that children inherently have a positive image of males.
Author

coffeeinvenice

Upvotes 64
Comments 10
Date August 17, 2021 1:16 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/p63krp/interesting_study_shows_that_stories_written_by/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/interesting-study-shows-that-stories-written-by.1060601
https://theredarchive.com/post/1060601
Top posts by coffeeinvenice

Canada: Male member of Parliament is expelled from caucus based on accusations of sexual harassment by a female MP. Turns out that the female MP sexually harassed a disabled Canadian soldier.

1711 upvotes
May 8, 2018
/r/MensRights

TIL of a Chrome Extension called "Reddit Masstagger" which is used to track people who are members of r/mensrights.

1678 upvotes
May 27, 2021
/r/MensRights

You're a man. You're wonderful. You're not flawed, toxic, problematic, or defective. You're wonderful BECAUSE you're a man. Get used to the idea.

677 upvotes
January 15, 2019
/r/MensRights

"Call to extend HPV vaccine to boys as cancer rates soar" - this is what happens when you 'gender' health. This should have been done 10 years ago.

345 upvotes
April 29, 2018
/r/MensRights

Johnny Depp marks celebrity comeback with Cannes opening film Fans in the French Riviera city were seen hoisting signs that read "Congrats, Johnny" and "We are sorry" with a heart.

301 upvotes
May 17, 2023
/r/MensRights

USA: George Washington University School of Nursing launches chapter of the American Association for Men in Nursing (AAMN) to break down gender stereotypes within the profession and support men in nursing

233 upvotes
December 10, 2018
/r/MensRights

For any members of this forum who are also members of the Northeastern University community, here are three specific university policies that Suzanna Danuta Walters is in violation of.

128 upvotes
June 12, 2018
/r/MensRights

Japan: French father goes on hunger strike for parental access for his kids abducted by Japanese wife

128 upvotes
July 11, 2021
/r/MensRights

Comments

[–]coffeeinvenice[S] 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

From the study:

They found that both boys and girls tend to write mostly about male characters, but there were some differences. Young boys featured males in their stories approximately 75% of the time and kept close to that average as they aged. Young girls did the same approximately 70% of the time, but things changed as they grew older—female characters began appearing more often. By the time they reached age 13, the percentage of male to female characters had dropped to 50%.

Perhaps children have an inherently positive image of male characters, and if this declines with age in females, it is the result of cultural conditioning?

The research study also found that "in books written by adults for children from 1813 to the present, found that 38% of the characters in them were female.

Some interesting implications:

  • I would argue that 38% is still a pretty high percentage, and could easily be higher or lower, depending on the country/language the books were written in. This study only looked at books published in Britain.

  • Is there any link between the predominance of male characters written by children and the predominance of male characters in published children's storybooks? Intuition suggests there is, but how do you prove a link?

  • If the percentage of male characters in children's storybooks is higher than the percentage of female characters, is this because there is a gender bias in children's story publishing, or is it because children prefer stories with male characters, and/or storybooks with male characters are more likely to be popular and financially successful?

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Men are perceived to be more active and therefore interesting from a storytelling perspective.

This study doesn't appear to say that children present their male characters in a positive light though.

Previous research into print and media representations show more male characters than female characters in works of fiction, but most male characters are given negative attributes whereas most female characters are given positive attributes.

There's some stuff about this in Media and Male Identity: The Making and Remaking of Men. Men trend to be good guys (usually with flaws) and bad guys whereas women tend to be good guys (without flaws) as well as innocent victims and bystanders. Stories focus on how women are harmed or affected by the bad guys and the good guys. Who are usually men.

Note that the flawless representation of women actually makes them boring. You can think of this kind of like "female privilege backfiring". People have no problem writing about flawed male characters, but that's also what makes for good storytelling.

Think about how boring Marge Simpson is compared to Homer Simpson, for example. Now think about why: Marge is the perfect mother and wife. But she's married to a husband and a father who's main role in the show is that he's a constant screwup who let's her and his family down (often for laughs), and who probably doesn't deserve her.

The crazy thing is this is how some women view things in their own lives so this stereotype is really pretty toxic and harmful. Marge might be boring, but a lot of the show's female viewers identify with being the boring, but otherwise innocent victim in their own life stories. Even if their status as an innocent victim isn't well deserved.

[–]SprinklesFancy5074 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Think about how boring Marge Simpson is compared to Homer Simpson, for example. Now think about why: Marge is the perfect mother and wife. But she's married to a husband and a father who's main role in the show is that he's a constant screwup who let's her and his family down (often for laughs), and who probably doesn't deserve her.

Heh. Now compare this to Lucy in I Love Lucy or Samantha in Bewtiched.

It's interesting to note that in this earlier era of TV, the roles were reversed. The husband was the comedic 'straight man' trope, while the wife was the screwball who caused all the problems and was the most interesting.

[–]sakura_drop 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I Dream of Jeannie too. She was even more chaotic than Samantha ever was, and the stakes were higher due to Major Nelson's job compared to Dustbin's. Sorry, Derwent.

[–]SprinklesFancy5074 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

inherently

Eh, I don't know about inherent. By the time a child is old enough to read and write, they're plenty old enough to have internalized some societal norms.

Impossible to say whether their preference for male characters is inherent or whether it's learned behavior.

[–]oggyb 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I read the study - the paragraph you quoted from the article actually got it dead wrong (according to my comprehension of the original).

https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cdev.13623

From the discussion section:

We also found that younger children tended to write more about characters of their own gender and while boys continued this trend, girls became less egocentric as they got older. The older girls produced approximately 50% male names, whereas the older boys averaged 85% male names. The finding that children initially produce more character names of their own gender is consistent with findings from the gender schema literature where it is well established that one’s own gender shapes how information is organized and remembered.

They're not finding that boys and girls start out writing about male characters, then the girls balance out; boys and girls start out writing about their own gender, then girls balance out.

Regarding your second bullet-point, the study itself finds that the children's writings mimic the ratio of male- to female-named characters in literature written for children by adults by looking at the Oxford children's literature corpus (which I guess is a standard set of texts?)

Interestingly, they also suggest this when discussing readers' genre choices:

Given these findings, it is reasonable to predict that boys encounter fewer female names when reading as they read less overall, and when they do read, they are more likely to be choosing material that contains a higher proportion of male names.

[–]blueleaf78 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps children have an inherently positive image of male characters, and if this declines with age in females, it is the result of cultural conditioning?

I'm not sure this study can speak to any inherent biases. Children old enough to write have already had their views on genders and gender roles influenced by society.

The methodology is also flawed:

the researchers scanned more than 100,000 stories using software to count character names. Notably, they first used cross-referenced names in birth registries for England and Wales to determine which names were used for males and which for females. Names were defined as traditionally male or female if 60% of those listed in the registries were given to a boy or a girl.

This leaves out characters who may not have been given a name, and I'm unsure what it means for characters with made-up names. Characters with an opposite-gender name, as well as those with a name that can be either male or female, were probably misidentified as well in many cases.

[–]iainmf 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Villains are more likely to be male, even if your protagonist and companions are female, there still may be more male characters.

[–]aerial_coitus 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

children inherently have a positive image of males

LOL……. not for long, don’t let the feminists and mass media see this, they will find a way to put an end to this real quick

[–]YesAmAThrowaway -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This would also speak for the research about gender dysphoria, meaning that gender is not simply what your bits down there are but rather something ingrained into your mind, and if your bits and the mind don't match, you're not gonna feel all too fine about it.

Browse all authors
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter