You can't solve a problem unless you identify its real causes - a plea for more rational discussions on gender then just - "Ok how do we blame men" (Video shows slut shaming is a mainly female activity done by women to other women and we need to acknowledge this to solve it)

rodrigohernandez4477 · 2021-01-15T08:06:42+00:00

Yeah, stop the always looking for blame in boys/men and never oneselves.

Feminists, stop the narrative that boys/men are responsible for practically 100% of boys/men's problems and and that boys/men are responsible for practically 100% of girls/women's problems.

Reality is: Some problems of girls/women are created by girls/women, some by boys/men. Some problems of boys/men are created by boys/men, some by girls/women.

It's not a 0%/50%/0%/50% constellation with responsibility but rather 25%/25%/25%/25%.

mhandanna · 2021-01-15T05:55:15+00:00

This is a very good well reasoned and thoughtful video by someone with psychology background, asking for more reasoned approach to problems. In order to solve problems we need people taking rational looks at it not gender ideologies whether feminists or MRA just using pre set conclusions. In feminist case, its clearly rule 1: "blame men" and then nuances from there "men make women unsafe" "men objectify women" etc

lorarc · 2021-01-15T06:42:53+00:00

It starts with this research: https://www.brandwatch.com/blog/react-will-twitter-ever-free-misogynistic-abuse/

And apart from this quote:

Omitting the phrases “shaming” and “shame” (to remove tweets like “slut shaming is wrong”) we focussed our analysis on the words “slut” and “whore” used on Twitter for the month of May so far.

They did no intent analysis. So a men saying "Slut shaming doesn't exist and those stupid whores made it up" is excluded from this research but "I told a guy I wasn't interested in a date and he called me a slut" is included as women using that word same as males getting a point for "Women are not sluts".

Additionally the author of the video claims that it comes from women and it's aimed at women but the research doesn't say who it's aimed at.

But that's not even what's important in this. What is important is that the data is not compared to the gender breakdown of Twitter users and their activity. I can go into men's locker room and come back with the data that 100% of people who use the word "slut" are men whether if I go to a knitting contest it's probably will be like 99% women.

That's not real science and that's just the first few seconds of the video.

matrixislife · 2021-01-15T12:45:33+00:00

2 minutes in and he hasn't stopped talking about men slut shaming women yet so I gave up on it. This is the gillette advert come to life, we're so scared of being accused of hating women we can't focus on anything else.

At some point we're going to have to take it as read that the author of an article or the producer of a video isn't actually misgynistic in doing so, and just get on with the damn thing.

VeganGuy001 · 2021-01-15T10:35:54+00:00

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Foxenrien · 2021-01-15T09:56:08+00:00

No slut shaming is fine, if you Shane people for little things you can shame someone for being careless with intercourse

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