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[β]psychosets 58 points59 points60 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I was falsely accused 2 years ago by a girl who felt regret after sexually harassing me while I was unconscious drunk. Became severely depressed and anxious from the allegation and all my friends taking her side, got so bad I stayed home the last 4 months of highschool. It became clinical and I didnβt get into my university of choice, had a breakup with my gf, and still struggle to do normal everyday functions. I got her to confess over an (unbeknownst to her) recorded phonecall.
Am I fucking pissed I was too shook to go to the police about then? Yes. Do I hate her guts for what she did to me and wish she would die a slow, excruciatingly painful death? Yes. Do I think she should get over ten years in prison for it? I really want to say yes, but Iβm pretty sure that would be excessive, unproductive and spending tax payer dollar. Iβm sure she would learn her lesson THOROUGHLY with 2 years locked up. This, plus the combination of it being another deterrent for actual victims to speak up, is in my opinion enough to justify a shorter than the actual crime, prison sentence. Although it makes my blood boil to even think of it.
[β]ThrowawayGhostGuy121 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Please tell me you at least published the recording!
[β]chongamonga14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Happened to my brother too.
False accusation destroys lives. It destroys the falsely accusedβs, their families, and even close friends.
[β]casra8885 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And there are virtually zero consequences, even if caught.
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[β]fox-martin 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I doubt you can get her locked up. But you could likely win a slander and/or libel case against her.
[β]FemaleIsEasyMode0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is no real payout for these type of cases, which is why lawyers don't really take them and advise to just go on with your life. The client just loses more money on legal fees than any award being paid out. For this reason alone, there should be jail time for a false accuser
[β]fox-martin 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, in this case it sounds like she didn't accuse him to the police. She accused him to their social group. My understanding is that that's not a crime, it's a civil matter.
Edit: But what you say about payouts makes a lot of sense.
[β]the_gaming_ranga16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Someone post this to advice animals and watch the shit storm
[β]DarthCallidous2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes.
[β]febreezing_hobos1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BRB
[β]febreezing_hobos0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's actually turning out to be kinda interesting.
[β]the_gaming_ranga1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who posted it? Edit. Just realized you did
[β]mrk6814 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Liberals see this as an obstacle to women coming forward with the accusations. #metoo has changed everything and if liberals win in 2018, Iβm expecting things like tax credits for women who believe they were victims of man-spreading during the tax year.
[β]MenGoingTOWin9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if liberals win in 2018
KEK.
I'll let Donald Trump Jr. speak towards that
[β]Joroda0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes indeed. Leftism is the political manifestation of female nature. The great screaming vagina is never satisfied, it yearns for dicks ever dirtier.
[β]Vlad_the_imp_hailer0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thereβs no obstacle as long as theyβre telling the truth.
[β]GoDuke201812 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men need to fight back like that guy who Asia raped. And start claims against these whores for poundmetoo.
[β]tw1nm3t30r12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I completely disagree with this π‘
They deserve double if not life.
[β]Amphibole_5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. The accusation is more severe than the accused crime, due to complete certainty that an activity took place. A punishment for hearsay of rape should be less extreme than proof that an accusation is false (often confessed or recorded).
Also for exploiting the system, and the shit the victim of false accusations has to go through even if found innocent (double counted in false accusations but not in actual rape).
[β]totallya_russianbot7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
They should get MORE.
Say you kidnap someone for ONE day. How much of a sentence do you think you'd get? Think you'd get a one day sentence? Fuck no! So someone who tries to kidnap someone for 20 years should get the same time? No, they should get more.
[β]pistolplinko4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No i agree with you.
[β]Stellacoffee2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This isnβt Nam, there are rules
[β]asrklid2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
its like in uno, when u call last card for someone but it isnt thier last card so then you have to pick up cards because u a snake nigga
[β]StrawhatMucci1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am more astounded by the stupidity that we even have to consider pointing this shit out.
[β]NietzscheExplosion1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to be the type of guy...eye for an eye.
Prison...particularly American and canadian ones however, serve no fucking use (ditto society really ). They make people worse. I'd rather shorter trade school type rehab. Women can all go to fucking beauty school.
The master said "distrust those who's urge to punish is strong." It took me a long while to understand that Nietzsche quote.
[β]lemonncheese 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably more that whatever punishment is intended
[β]Syc2540 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. Things must balance out
[β]mount_of_jack_squat0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The judge should
[β]DbnBoi0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most definitely.
If the accusers desire was to jail and ruin some guys life then they should face the same sentence.
Also have to sign on the sex offenders register for the rest of their lives.
[β]Griever1140 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly this should be the case. Eye for an eye
[β]casra8880 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Completely disagree! They should get the same sentence PLUS the an extra 10 years for lying!
[β]st8ovmnd0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've been saying this since the beginning of all this me too crap start:)
[β]JJ33140 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I regard it as an injustice that our legal system does not do this. It's really only fair, and I would go further and say that some mechanism should be in place to achieve parity with the degree of reputational damage suffered by the victim. If his name was plastered all over the media before a verdict is reached, there should either be a major settlement from the media companies or this woman needs to go on a high profile sex offender registry for false accusations (really both).
[β]gevalher0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah! Bring back the Hammurabi code!
[β]SomeRandomUser1110 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think false accusers should get the sex offender title with whatever prison sentence.
[β]n3ilz0 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, double
[β]blitzblazin 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah this is dumb it works both way. This means a man should never sue a woman at all, since woman win in court most of the time irreguardless
[β]Wjamie4200 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is straight from Torah law, whoever falsely testifies against his neighbor is to receive the maximum sentence that the falsely accused could have received.
[β]internet_badass_here-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately that would skew the incentives against people making false accusations to confess. I agree in principle though.
[β]EvilCoyote4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The idea is to get them to stop doing it. How about public canings? I think this world needs more public brutality. Seems to work everywhere it's used.
[β]Be__Live440 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think if you remove the anonymity that is offered to proven false accusers you will instantly reduce them.
Right now they get to lie, waste court time, recant or admit lying and skate out without anyone knowing. Meanwhile the falsely accused are social and professional pariah and usually ruined for life - hell some have served jail time.
Only 0.7% of accusations are proven to be true. (RAINN)
Meanwhile 8% of accusations are proven to be false. (FBI) So a false rape accuser only has an 8% chance of getting caught. And if caught, nothing really ever happens.
But knowing 10 out of 11 rape accusations are malicious lies used to destroy peopleβs lives, we can see that it is a big problem, a problem that would be fixed right quick if there was an 8% chance of getting years in jail for a false accusation.
Seeing as they are malicious liars (with a 90+% certainty), I think they can fucking deal with that.
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