Anyone who supports universal income while claiming to be MGHOW is just a Chad who wants other men to pay for him.

BeefyPadlock · 2016-08-08T23:11:05+00:00

I think you misunderstand the idea behind basic income. It's not about giving free money to people who want to be bums, it's about figuring out a way to keep the majority of the human race from homelessness and starvation once computers/robotics replaces almost every job imaginable.

Like it or not, that day is coming.

JStheHammer · 2016-08-08T21:54:19+00:00

I agree 100%.

The problem becomes when there are no jobs. What will 100k 50 year old truck drivers do when they are replaced with self driving Semi trucks? Should we give them loans to go to college to get degrees in psychology? Should they get minimum wage jobs at McDondalds? Should we let them starve because no one predicted the tech?

These are tough issuses. I dont know the answer.

DigitalScetis · 2016-08-08T21:55:09+00:00

Frankly, if (and that's an if) it'll help solve the male homeless epidemic, help solve the male unemployment crisis, help solve the inability for men to find work after being convicted under gynocentric laws, then I don't know how I couldn't support it and be a MGTOW.

Neither Chad nor women need relief today, since everything in society is for their benefit. It's every other man besides Chad that needs relief.

interstate-15 · 2016-08-09T02:30:17+00:00

Social programs are used to prevent crime and poverty so that it doesn't disrupt society enough to cause it to collapse.

If you really think basic income is some sort of handout that people want, you are mistaken. Basic income won't be six figures a year living in a four bedroom house. It will be near poverty level income while living in a studio apartment in a shithole ghetto. I could give a flying shit that I'm paying for people who don't want to pursue higher careers basic income while I'm living it up in a nice house in a nice area. I rather be paying to keep poor people with a roof over their head, food in the belly so they don't come and rob me for my shit.

npath · 2016-08-09T01:03:26+00:00

There is always an upper limit on the amount of workers needed on a job, our society in this case. Once that number is passed, efficiency is no longer maximized. We are going to hit that number sooner or later, and basic income will help those who aren't working then.

Anteface · 2016-08-09T03:04:29+00:00

I have friends in automation industry and they tell me mass unemployment caused by robots is imminent within our lifetime.

rolltap38 · 2016-08-09T06:18:29+00:00

As long as you can produce original thoughts and translate that into some kind of marketable skill computers are not going to replace you. This is straight up hype without any evidence behind it. Automation will replace manual labor, but computers do not have brains and they will not be able to create products/services/inventions that are valuable to the marketplace. If your job is so simple that someone can program a machine to do it better then it's time to learn a new skill. I don't think a basic income is going to be a good incentive for people to advance themselves.

oldredder · 2016-08-09T08:04:43+00:00

It is wrong to support a corrupt system. Gaming it is a short-term survival-only strategy. The long-term strategy must be exit or war.

I don't advocate for universal income. Income is not a goal. It is a middle-step.

The real things we need are air, water, food, shelter and I advocate we banish any system of politics or economics that deprives us of these needs.

Thankfully we have one system, capitalism, that when used is able to address all these things, even over-population. We don't tend to use it a lot because people are so scared of having & using freedom but it's real and it works.

Today we mostly use fascism - merger of state and corporation - which is an utter failure unless your desired outcome is over-population of slaves to keep the kings rich world-wide.

ryeshoes · 2016-08-09T08:24:07+00:00

universal basic income is just another means of funding socialism.

more apolitically, all it does is incentivize actual business owners to keep people only capable of working entry level jobs there - why pay them extra when the government covers the difference?

On the opposite side, people who are legitimately able to procure a high paying job stay there because the competition (the entry level workers) have had their legs cut off by the universal basic income

enjoy

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I-am-the-lul · 2016-08-08T22:37:57+00:00

The universal income idea sounds like a good idea in that it reminds me of futuristic sci-fi shows like Star Trek where everybody works for personal fulfillment, and a commission when you retire, but can things like this work in the real world where human concepts like zero-sum happiness and one-upmanship exists?

Consurgent · 2016-08-08T23:54:47+00:00

TLDR; Capitalism is good, Socialism is bad or something.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2016-08-09T19:09:14+00:00

Love all these click bait titles :D

Hirryu · 2016-08-08T23:23:43+00:00

Oh well... Who is John Galt?

Title	Anyone who supports universal income while claiming to be MGHOW is just a Chad who wants other men to pay for him.
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Date	August 8, 2016 9:33 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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