Can I get some advice?

anongogogo · 2018-09-24T18:01:25+00:00

Start with the book of Five rings

roxon89 · 2018-09-24T17:51:27+00:00

There’s no denying that life sucks when you are 15. That’s perfectly normal. You’re on the right path. Work hard in all of your endeavors. Seek to find balance and moderation in your life.

Eat healthy but treat yourself to a piece of pie once in a while.

Save money but don’t be afraid to splurge on something nice once in a while.

comercialseverywhere · 2018-09-24T17:57:11+00:00

Life is here to experience. There isn't any inherent meaning. If I were 15 again, I would focus on school and experiencing new things. Go to college, study abroad, see the world. Dont get caught up in girls and drinking; I wasted most of my teenage years, and 20s for that matter.

kbj1987 · 2018-09-24T18:09:44+00:00

Try to maintain a schedule of physical exercise. Running/jogging for 45min to an hour three to four times a week is one of the cheapest and simplest options. It's hard to maintain physical and especially mental health and stability without being physically active. I had mandatory PE classes every year of my school and college years, except one year. During that one year I got to feel down, purposeless, empty and tired. Started to run next year and then joined some intense sport's trainings (it was karate back then) and the change in my well being was just huge. I became more confident, outgoing, less stressed, less worries, better grades and my then GF started to chase after me and before she was quite undecided about the relationship. It just helped me a lot...

forumjay · 2018-09-24T20:51:19+00:00

I'm talking about what works for me, but I will explain why I found what works for me atm, I'm 27 btw.

Money: The corporate world, even with a "nice" job is not good enough for people who have some self-respect. This is why I attempt two routes to achieve financial independence. A short cut, or a "long" run which is more like a mid term goal, considering how easy it is to reach that goal using a normal means.

The fast route is using the yearly crypto hype to get some gains.

The longer route is to pump money on a monthly basis into many different dividend paying stocks, with the goal to get a high amount of dividends after max. 20 years. It's the truest form of passive income, because you don't have to manage it unlike other passive income sources.

The job is just a utility to pump money into your better future, in which you can have the working hours for yourself by retiring way earlier than most other people.

Find your sweet spot between not wasting money for unnecessary things and buying something that you would like to have, when you feel like it. You should not be a prisoner within your own principles.

Body: Luckily I felt internal drive from a young age to go out playing or do daily-regular training. It's been over 15 years now, and the "relationship" with myself, the health, feeling very comfortable in your skin is the most valuable thing I have. The work out is timeless, and you can always fall back to your personalized exercises. Grinding the same exercise at home over and over again, at any time (because you don't need gym for that kind of exercise) is an advantage.

Body/Mind: If you keep a lean body, athletic body, one that is functional fast and strong, you can allow yourself to eat as much healthy food as you want.

4 bananas a day? Doesn't matter, won't make you fat. I have come far enough to feel what I like to eat. Eating has become a joy every day for me, just like taking a shit, which is highly undervalued.

You definitely need to consume books that teach you psychology until you feel like you heard it all, then you can take it slow, but never quit taking in something new, and don't stop observing why you think what you think. Get that advantage early on to understand your mind at times when your conscious mind disagrees with your subconscious mind. Even more important, you will understand other people, too. Don't let your ego get you from the back door by feeling superior. And disagree with people you learn from, if you think there is a reason to do so.

Just by reading some mgtow comments you can also pick up some nuances which IMO are golden nuggets, too. Most people never understand a few of those principles in their whole life.

I suggest a these books: Psycho Cybernetics, How to win friends and influence people. These two books dropped information that really got me thinking.

Also read one NLP-based book, and if you are in the mindset for something grounding, try something from Eckhart Tolle.

Another one is Cashvertising. It is like a massive book of bullet points that gets to the point of what sells. I use it as a reference to understand people better, and myself included.

One important discovery I made: People rate you, like you, or rate your level of professionalism based on how much you entertain them, even at serious presentations.

Don't make people fall asleep + make it interesting and/or make them laugh.

Presentation example: Vary your tonatily, be amused and show interest in your topic, because it is true. By doing that, even medium content will get you a 10/10+ rating, because they had such a good time. And they will remember it for a long time, especially if this is your first or early impression. It might help you in the future.

What do you do when things are going well for you, and you don't know what else to do, and you can allow yourself to kill time or waste a bit of time?

Do what is important to you, or try understanding something you never bothered to look at, or do something that is entertaining or fun. Whatever makes you happy and enjoy our time.

Look at your life as an intersting experiment, in which you have all options at hand to make the process interesting and the outcome a good one for you.

Quit your therapy sessions. There is nothing wrong with you. By going there, it just reinforces subconsciously the idea that something might be wrong with you. That is why I said to read books that provide you with clarity of how your mind works. You need to take care of what your mind subconsciously assumes or imples by poort choices you make. Don't write a poor programm for your mind.

Observe what you like in others, their attitude for example. Your are not stuck to an attitude. What kind of outlook on life is necessary for you to adapt the better attitudes, that you see in others?

Finally, ask yourself the hard questions that you have to answer honestly. If you don't understand something about yourself, it means you have something left that is unresolved. AT LEAST yourself you should fully understand. Take your time.

drizztdourden420 · 2018-09-24T18:17:20+00:00

You sound ahead of the game. I tend toward nihilism as well, but I do find things to live for. Basically, the most fulfillment that I've heard people say they feel is when they are doing things for others.

Primarily, when people have become successful in their own lives, they then give back. So, it may be counter-intuitive, but concentrating on your own personal success and being selfish about your own priorities and always putting yourself first when you're young, is actually a good thing. It allows you to later take care of the people that you love first, and they will need you to as they get old and depend on your capability to make good decisions for them and to execute on them, and it then also allows you to reach out and help your community.

When you're gone, it's how you'll be remembered by others that is what will matter. If you're an agnostic/athiest, that's the most that you can hope for.

eduardkoopman · 2018-09-24T18:26:41+00:00

I think that life doesn't really have any meaning except the artifical meaning and fulfillment we create for ourselves, through whatever means that is.

Totally correct conclusion, imo. None the less, we need to create meanings, to have motivation and to protect usself from (exsistential) crisis/depression.

I really enjoyed, finding/creating meanings "outside" of myself. Now I help/volunteer at certain groups. That really added good to my life. I gives me (a fake sense of) purpose, it makes me feel belong to a group, it makes me get to know and meet new people, and it's something different from day to day activity.
Maybe with asperger or whatever type of things like that; it is probably really helpfull to try to join and belong to a group. Because one needs extra practise and social contacts to develop the social skills.

DWShimoda · 2018-09-24T19:31:28+00:00

I likely want to be any variation of a lawyer/therapist and failing those/when im older becoming a farmer

I think you don't have enough experience of actual life -- much less any real clue as to what either (any) of those fields of work (or any other field or type of work/career) would actually entail.

And other than the (very vague, banal) "fact" that you are 15 and attending school... we really don't have any basis to make any actual much less specific recommendations to you.

I could offer a list (long or short) of a few books to read that might help you better define your questions, options, give you some idea of what to seek out for "experience" in life to help you learn to see a 'path' that you might pursue... but I don't know whether you enjoy reading, or would even be remotely interested in such a list.

betterredthenwed · 2018-09-24T18:30:04+00:00

"I think that life doesn't really have any meaning except the artifical meaning and fulfillment we create for ourselves, through whatever means that is."

That, my friend, is the secret. If you take someone else's meaning and internalize that guess what? You're just like everyone who mindlessly crawls through life.

My advice: drop the word 'artificial'. Therw is nothing artificial about discovering how you will make your life meaningful.

Just in asking this you're ahead of the game.

depth_charger · 2018-09-24T18:38:35+00:00

The smart ones try to learn from their own mistakes.

....But the wise learn from mistakes of others!

[I'm 38, wasn't until early 30s that I knew I was an Aspie.Dropped out of college,currently on a sabbatical from work.No mortgage,no loans,dated more than my fair share of women(right across the age spectrum),NEVER married.]

Take it easy dude.

Can I get some advice?

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But Again, none of those will give you actual real "experience" of the world...

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