Curious.

Dadeh · 2019-09-17T19:16:50+00:00

That's a long story. I'd say a mix of divorce, casual flings with women who didn't tell me they were married/taken, and having children.

Going from a blue pill simp that thought marriage was it for me, I married my bestfriend, my highschool sweetheart.

After being served those divorce papers even after throwing away years of my life, doing everything I could to make sure things were taken care of, was a slap to the face. After that I decided that I would live for myself, started hooking up with random chicks, talking to multiple women at a time, basically spinning plates. When I realized that women are willing to lie to your face, take a cumshot to the eye, then go home to their man.. it kinda just fucked me up. Once I found that these women were taken, I shut the FWB situation down. In that time, I experimented with different age ranges, sizes, and races..they were all the same. Brought no interesting talking topics to the table, lied about having boyfriends/husbands, willing to do the most for someone they just met.. then learned that their dude hadn't fucked them in months/years. Every single time it pushed me away from the dating scene.. it really opened my eyes before I even found MGTOW.

Then I thought I found one, someone that was about me, a woman that was subservient, and willing to please me on every facet. Of course, we all know how this went. She played the role for first year or two.. then she got pregnant. Due to her past (which I was willing to overlook because I was still somewhat blue pill) I didn't trust that it was my child. I decided to stay in the relationship, experience the things a to be father would experience. Taking her to her appointments, paying for the 3d ultrasounds, watching and experiencing the joy of seeing a life being brought into the world. All the way, up until labor, and when he finally emerged..I always had that thought in the back of my head. He came out, he looked just like me, and I took a paternity test. He's mine. I was overjoyed..although I had to spend two weeks in the hospital getting bitched at because I had to go to work every day still. Getting screeched at because I couldn't stay at the hospital for my son.. there's no such thing as paternity leave. I would be up with my son all night, fall asleep at 4am, then be up at 6am for work every single day. It didn't matter, it never was enough. Soon after our relationship deteriorated.. at the time I couldn't understand why but now I know it's because she has BPD and was never diagnosed. She lives in this perpetual state of "what are you doing for me now" and it never mattered what I had done. It broke me and after 4 years of being together, I walked away. I never looked back.

After this relationship, I decided to have a rebound with a high school friend that curved me back when I was younger. She wanted to have a baby and was worried that she would never have one. I was a dumbass and started sleeping with her..she sperm jacked me. When she got pregnant she told me that she would never put me on child support because she basically stole it from me. At the end of the day, she ended up putting me on child support and in retaliation my ex of 4 years also hit me for child support at the same time. They conspired against me. That was the last straw for me.

2 years ago, I happened to be searching random subreddits..Just hitting the random button while at work. I was fairly new to reddit and didn't really understand the website too much. It was just one of those websites my work hadn't blocked yet. I ran across MGTOW as well as WHATGMG. It kinda just opened my eyes, reading stories about people that have been through the same things I had been through. Everything I had picked up at that time, the rational male, stoicism, and the multitude of Youtube content creators..it just all fell into place. That I wasted the bulk of my teenage and half my twenties on women. I love my kids, but I don't love how they were brought into the world. I know that I could've made better decisions but I'm making that up now. I have 2 boys and believe me..I'll guide them correctly through this..enlighten them before they are able to make the same mistakes I did.

shiftycansnipe · 2019-09-17T19:06:41+00:00

Bald faced lies and no empathy for their own actions. I still have a gf but she doesn’t dare give me shit for being me. Took me 8 years to get her to calm down and she knows we’re never getting married. Our relationship hangs on a month to month basis. We don’t hold grudges, and nothing, I mean NOTHING over a month old can be brought up in angst. Keeps everyone on their best foot.

DangZagnut · 2019-09-17T19:17:59+00:00

The money frankly. Have you seen what their starting salaries are?

Golden handcuffs man.

newcaprica1 · 2019-09-17T21:13:59+00:00

It was my divorce. I did not think of myself as a stupid person before getting married. I had dated more women than the average man at that point and I knew what red flags to look out for in a relationship. When I eventually did marry, I was already middle-aged and I had known my bride for nearly 10 years. We didn't have a perfect relationship and there were some minor red flags, but nothing that was a show-stopper at my age. I had matured enough to be in a responsible relationship and we were both mature enough to resolve our differences. After two years of marriage, she took a temp job in Australia, which I fully endorsed. She wanted the job, the money was great and we were so close that I thought nothing of it. Neither of us were from the same country and we routinely worked outside of our home countries. We decided that, if the job worked out, we would immigrate. I had worked in Australia before, so I helped her find an apartment, fill out the visa paperwork and helped her with the move. We video-chatted multiple times daily and had been in that habit for years. We discussed finances, future plans, how the day was going, very normal stuff. Nothing seemed to indicate future problems. We rarely fought and it was a pretty idyllic relationship. I was proud of our relationship and though I missed her, I still considered myself a happily married man. About 6 months into the job, she stops calling as regularly. I let it slide, she's busy with her work, which required some travel. The calls start getting weird. Someone wrecked into her car and the insurance company is acting shady... Her apartment gets broken into and she loses thousands of dollars in cash/jewelry. I come to the rescue.. take some vacation days to visit her and sort everything out, then fly back to work once the dust settles. Only it doesn't settle for long. Next I get a call from the hospital. Yeah... she's been involuntarily committed because of a psychotic episode (no one was hurt). The doctor tells me the episode was most likely due to methamphetamine abuse since they found it in her blood-work. This came as a complete shock to me obviously. Neither of us had drug issues up to this point. We spoke on the phone when she was allowed. We discussed a divorce at the time. I was against the idea as was she, but at that point all options were contemplated. She was pretty tight-lipped about the whole ordeal and I was just happy that she wasn't dead. After she's released, she takes a few weeks to tie up loose ends and flies home. I'm happy obviously, but she's a completely different person. She is angry most of the time. She is violent some of the time and she is paranoid ALL of the time. After about a month, she's pregnant while being on the pill. I'm thrilled by the news. She blames her mood swings and paranoia on the pregnancy. I accept the excuse and learn to live with it. Then the first trimester ultrasound indicates that the child growing inside her is older than it should be. I do the math and time of conception is when she was in Australia. She's been cheating on me. I confront her, she refuses to talk about it. At this point, I'm red-pilled enough to know the marriage is over. I might have forgiven her for cheating but I'm not supporting a child conceived by infidelity nor am I paying 18 years of child support for a child which isn't mine. We discuss it over dinner, agree to divorce once the child is born (a legal requirement here) and sleep in separate rooms from then on. One day I wake up and she's gone. All of her stuff and some of mine is gone as well. I call the cops. They say she's staying in a rape shelter. I'm mortified. Can I visit her? No, men are not allowed there. I send her texts.. no reply. A few weeks go by. A cop calls to interview me about sexual assault allegations. I've already hired a divorce attorney at this point. He tells me to keep my mouth shut so I do. A few more weeks go by and the cops show up to my door with guns drawn. I'm arrested and held for three days, mostly because I refused to deny the allegations during the initial request for an interview. Why did she do it? Because I wouldn't buy her a ticket to leave until the child was born, DNA checked and divorce allowed to proceed. Six months later all charges are dropped, my divorce is final and my ex-wife and her child have returned to Australia, of all places. Neither of us are citizens there, but Chad is there and he's got some child support to pay. Nine fucking years I knew this broad before we tied the knot. I had more than enough experience in dating to weed out this type trash and yet it still happened to me. The conclusion I drew was, either I'm not smart enough or women are entirely too unstable. Never again.

PaPaKAPture · 2019-09-17T19:25:47+00:00

Being married for 10 years. Taking the redpill has been a curse, my wife and I are still married only because I don't have the money to divorce her. I'm trapped. Honestly stuck between putting up with this another 9 years as to not have to pay child support, but everyday that passes I feel like I'm drowning.

If my credit didn't matter with my career, I would be gone in a second. At the same time, she blows through money in our account before the weekend is done, leaving me with nothing to pay bills, and when I do, we are overdrafted on Monday.

krusty_fat · 2019-09-17T19:06:29+00:00

Female co-workers opened my eyes on female nature.

eduardkoopman · 2019-09-17T19:32:53+00:00

Experiencing the following in my teens, 20's and early 30's: (And wanting to put my own hapiness first, and persuing my own things)
* ingnored in my teens and most of 20's by women;
* getting rejected alot and treated pretty badly overall, when trying to date in my 20's. Spending alot of time on fruitless chat ups, dates, etc..
* the few sex, short term relationships I got out of the plenty chat ups, tries, dates; were overall not worth the pain and time invested (so it felt like to me)
* managed to have 1 LTR from my late 20's to early 30's. Which was the main reason for me to keep going trying in my 20's. The LTR, it was enjoyabel in some ways, and it was also costly financially (at least for my income) overall. Causing to life a pretty broke lifestyle, due to these expenses (holidays, activities, gifts semi-regular, etc.).
Overall the costs and benifits of that LTR, where at best break even. Concerning all the efforts, etc..; I found it should not de Break Even at best but be a plus.

After the LTR ended 4 years ago.
I decided to stop dating and relationships. I didn't know MGTOW, or that it existed at that time. But I chose that; which basically fullfills the MGTOW monk mode label.

I basically decided this, based on the following "calculation".
"Dating was shit, I didn't like it. And when I will get a relationship out of it, my life is overall pretty much equally happy overall as when I'm single/alone. So why go through the shit, pains, time wasts, risks that come whith dating; while there is no gain in the end for me (even if I get into a relationship)? So I opted out"

[deleted] · 2019-09-17T19:35:09+00:00

My "father", a blue pilled loser who died poor because of his loser beliefs. He was such a whiny bitch that growing up I always wondered "Why the fuck didn't you just go MGTOW instead of starting a family?"

p3p3_sylvia · 2019-09-17T20:08:16+00:00

I’m actually in a LTR and has been going pretty good. I became red pill aware about six months into the relationship but I started really looking into MGTOW when I found out my bitch of a mother is now divorcing my second stepdad, who in all honesty is an awesome guy and was such a good role model for me growing up.

MrWolf745 · 2019-09-17T22:20:12+00:00

I had two relationships they started and ended pretty similarly. I had my father and uncle in my life who showed me the two sides of dating; my dad was always depressed due to relationships and my uncle is a mgtow and he was happy. So it took me to get burned twice to fully go mgtow. I started to go mgtow after my first relationship but I fell back to the plantation about a month later to someone else.

Anonymoose_wrex · 2019-09-18T00:34:29+00:00

Throughout my life I witnessed just about every man in a relationship either be or become incredibly miserable (not all, but most) and while all this was going on I realized the main source of stress in my life came from worrying what women thought of me. So, I stopped and became all the happier for it.

Diogeneplz1 · 2019-09-17T20:38:39+00:00

Giving my entire soul to a woman and watching her drag it through the mud as much as possible and lying to me constantly about her serial cheating. Being never enough for women. Coming on this subreddit and realizing how rational and true red pill is and seeing red pill truth everyday.

When we were dating, I remember her mentioning the red pill and how horrible it was all the while more so convincing herself as her face had that total fear of it being true. I didn’t even know what it really was and just thought it was incel nonsense not worth examining and it scared her. Women know red pill is true. It explains all their bullshit and mercurial natures that we have popularized in society as some how being more in accord with truth and harmonious with nature. In reality, they’re all prostitutes with emotions that direct them towards acquiring the most security, the most resources, and the best genes.

Men’s natures have us just seek to acquire the best genes they can, too, as much as we say otherwise. Women know this and that’s why they disdain us as horny brutes and to some degree, this is true, but they don’t want to face their natures being crueler, simpler, and more sinister than ours. We may just be after the best genes, too, but are willing to compromise this somewhat at least for virtue, unconditional love, and mutual growth. They just can’t reciprocate.

tower-rounder · 2019-09-17T21:42:02+00:00

Divorce, few months of trp and then a trip to a strip club.

Cestus_Saphrax · 2019-09-18T06:23:24+00:00

Divorce with the obligatory red pill afterwards. Found this sub last year.

[deleted] · 2019-09-18T09:34:10+00:00

My family. Always in favour of my sister while I can die in the street nobody would care, sad world folks but keep the smile :)

D4RKFR13ND666 · 2019-09-27T04:45:27+00:00

One youtuber called "paul joseph Watson" hes kind of clown now but still.

Title	Curious.
Author	EndlessPatriotism
Upvotes	5
Comments	33
Date	September 17, 2019 6:50 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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