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[–]mia_zombie22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit is tough
[–]TaiYongMedical19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"There have been more than a couple/few members that come on here all fired up spitting Red Pills only to quietly stop posting, and then they re-materialize months later telling us all about their latest messy relationship that they have gotten themselves into...."
I won't be one of them. Currently ghosting a crazy bitch who just won't understand why I don't want to be with her. Haven't said a word about "MGTOW", just told her I no longer wished to speak to her, and she should stop sending me messages (she still does).
I quit talking to her "cold turkey", and she won't even understand why lol.
For the record, it never got to the point of a "relationship". As soon as I felt that she was sucking out my free time (I would rather read or watch the history channel), I told her I no longer have time for her bullshit and told her to fuck off.
The constant messaging about the most irrelevant things, and the hours she could keep on going about utter bullshit, were the final straw.
Deus Vult brothers.
[–]P10001232 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I think if you are pragmatic about your risk/reward ratio with your dating life, you'll be fine. Every month you need to do a check up. Where am I at, where is this heading, is this good for me, do I have this under control, am I not accomplishing things I want to because of her and so on. If you have your shit in order, then you are fine. If not, time to ghost and when you don't want to but know you need to, that's the real challenge. Never forget, pussy is a drug. Don't get addicted.
[–]user_miki8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wise words.
[–]trouble_with_trilbys8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Signed in just to comment.
I've been lurking lately because I've been busy at work, but I know the thirst. Almost totally destroyed in the divorce process.
I'm finally doing a little better, but you're right. No man is immune.
Once your self-respect starts coming back up, you start measuring your self-worth by what insults your intelligence or what feeds your ego.
You want to feel good about yourself, and anything that validates the endorphins after years of pain makes you crave more.
This is a dangerous time.
[–]retal1ator4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What if someone is not interested in dating but does want children of his own?
[–]TheReidman3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Surrogacy is an option, but it's really expensive at this point.
[–]retal1ator1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Just with a quick research online I read costs for surrogacy in Ukraine start from 25k€, but I bet the end cost would be about 30-40k€ which is a lot of money considering it's just for the baby. Perhaps rich MGTOWs can afford that but the average Joe might have some problems to spend a sum like that.
[–]TheReidman1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, and it's about $85k CAD here, but I made this comment with the assumption that you want to raise this child. If it's simply an urge to pass your DNA along, just take a tour through Asia and hump a kid into some chick there.
[–]daddylonglegs724 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, if it is to pass along DNA that is one thing, but if it is just a need to be nurturing and compassionate to someone else, why not do the foster kids? Or adopt?
[–]TheReidman5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have no experience with this particular sector, but I have heard from a few other MGTOW that the foster care and adoption system across North America is just as anti-male as the family courts.
Assuming that u/retal1ator is a single guy, he has about the same chance of being approved for adopting a kid as Christine Ford facing charges of perjury in the Kavanaugh case.
[–]P10001231 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We aren't there yet. When artificial wombs become readily available, that's your ticket. Focus on yourself, make cash and perhaps in the future you can have a whole lot of them if you can afford them.
[–]hrm08940 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ive accepted that im never having children. The main reason is because i know no woman is worth the trouble. The other reason is theres no point in raising a child, cleaning his shit, spending all this time, money, and energy only for him/her to grow up and leave me in old age; if you raise em right, maybe youd be lucky to receive a phone call once a week. And having a child to continue my legacy is meaningless since ill never be around to see what has come of it.
Most kids are ungrateful fucks. Just like women, i see no benefits in this day and age. But to each his own. Maybe ill have a change in thought and adopt an orphan—one whos parents died and not from some irresponsible whore—in the future, who knows.
[–]retal1ator0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I honestly refuse to give up having children just because I was born in a gynocentric society and I am just a cog in the machine. Raising kids is by definition stressful and risky, we crave to do it because it's our biological imperative. You don't have children because you plan on getting something out of it, but because it becomes a life mission to nurture and help a little version of you grow up. Sometimes it may be frustrating but that is not the point of it and it does not mean raising children is not rewarding in the long run.
I would just want to have a relationship to have children but without the government hand interfering in all my personal affair. In my view we live in very sad times, a period where every human interaction is heavily regulated.
[–]cleats4u4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
After you fuck them what else is there to do with them! It's like I just listened to miles of your bull shit, figured out all these solutions to your problems and fed you. All I got was 20 minutes of pussy I've had over and over. If you don't leave me alone I'm going to call some of my friends to fuck you, upload it to porntube and see if I can make some of that money back from the downloads. That is as close as I can get to a relationship.
[–]PrideTrooperBR4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why i don't date anymore.
[–]genethedog2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Alright. Just as long as we don't beat up on guys that relapse. It's one thing fighting a man-made addiction, it's another all together when you're fighting an addiction you were born to have that every mother and movie and teacher told you was a great addiction to have for like the first 20+ years of your life.
[–]flee_market0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We literally evolved this way, our species never would have made it otherwise. Not saying it's good or bad, it's just how it is.
But mastering our instincts is what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom.
Were the engineers behind the Apollo program busy chasing thots?
Fuck no, they were busy doing math. Plotting trajectories, figuring out thrust/weight ratios, calculating fuel amounts.
And yeah they faced a few very serious setbacks (RIP Apollo 1 crew) but they didn't give up, they kept going. And because of that, they're responsible for putting humans on the moon.
How the fuck is chasing thots supposed to compare to that?
Even something relatively "minor" like writing your own simple software or app is still a million times more notable than chasing tail.
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[–]CraigMcCloud 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Would you say that desire/fantasy is intrinsic to the male's psyche or was it purely built into our minds by traditional tales and Hollywood's vision of perfect relationships?
[–]flee_market0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can I ask what age bracket you're in?
I have this theory that most men and women (the ones who fall toward the middle of the bell curve) tend to pass each other going opposite directions some time in their 30's, in terms of libido.
Men start off hormonal and sex-crazed and taper off as they get into their 40's and 50's, women don't really hit their stride until at least 35.
Oh, sure, they have plenty of sex when they're younger because of all the men chasing them, and they don't refuse it because they're fucking dopamine addicts, but they don't become crazed for it until their 30's when men start losing interest.
[–]flowerpowerman3 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm glad I don't find it too challenging... I went from trying to fuck every girl that I wanted to fuck, and fucking around a lot.. To meeting the one." I lived with the stone cold slut for 6 months and now women grossly displease me to the point of complete lack of sexual desire.
I promise I'm not gay- but it's been weeks since I left my cheating skank, and I can't even imagine sticking my dick in any woman, at least for a very long time. I'd rather save the energy. It may be a warm pussy, but she's a cold cunt deep down. I just can't... I loved her so much and she cheated on me. Now that I don't give a fuck about her she begs me for my cock? Wtf, look what you did to me... Fuck that and fuck you. I'm gone and this isn't going to be as friends or fuck buddies. DISGUSTING FUCKING CUNT
[–]MGTOWAmerican0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well said
[–]MrStokeMan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Start strong end never compromise
[–]Secret_Combo0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Life is a constant back and forth. Don't get yourself down if you find yourself in the plantation again. Just keep improving.
[–]hrm08940 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why i try my best to avoid going to social settings that have women. I know im a weak motherfucker that will fall for a bitch even though i know better.
It can be tempting, which is why I come here everyday just to remind myself how bad the alternative is.
[–]RoboMandrake0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As W.C. Fields said, "Life is made up of three rings. The engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffering."
[–]simplisticallysimple0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Full MGTOW is unrealistic.
Pump and dump is the way to go.
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