My boyfriend is a doctor; he has no debt, and makes an easy 200k and change. We’ve been dating for 3 years now.
Last Friday, he took me to this beautiful, very expensive restaurant and proposed. I cried tears of joy and said yes. When he proposed, I didn’t even look at the ring; I just knew I wanted him.
I’ve been wearing the ring he gave me, and I feel horrible about myself, but I just plainly don’t like it. It looks very cheap, the diamond is tiny, and it honestly looks like one of those rings you see in display at Walmart. Earlier today, curiosity got the best of me, and I asked him how much did he spend on the ring. He actually looked really proud and said he got it for a huge steal; the jeweler said it was worth $1000, but he got it for $350.
I’m not going to lie. I was hurt. This man has no debt, he makes an incredible salary, and he couldn’t even get me a ring worth a day of his salary. Not a single friggin day. I told him that I appreciated the proposal and I do want to marry him, but I don’t really like the ring he picked out; it looks really cheap, it is cheap, and it seems like he didn’t really put effort into it.
He was hurt by what I said. He said he picked a “minimalist” design because I’m a minimalistic person. I told him while this is true, this is something that’s supposed to symbolize our love. I didn’t think he needed to spend the traditional 3-months salary, but I don’t think a $3000 ring (approx. 3-4 days salary for him) would be too unreasonable to ask for. I showed him some ring designs I found online I liked in the $2000-3000 range, and told him that if he found something cheaper that I liked, I would be open to that option, but I’m wearing that thing forever; I want to love it, and I want to look at it knowing how much my (future) husband loves ME. The fact that we have multiple video game systems and other things HE loves worth more than my ring just….makes me sad.
He told me I was being materialistic, and that he’d be more comfortable saving that money towards a honeymoon or a house. He said he will get another ring if I really hate my ring, but spending more than $500 was straight-up not happening. I told him that that’s fine, but my “yes” is conditional on getting a better ring that I actually like, and he will be very hard-pressed to find one I like for less than $500. If I’m not worth the cost, then I know where he stands.
He just left at that point, and we haven’t really talked much since then. I feel just so unloved; is a ring really going to be the thing that breaks up a strong 3-year commitment. Like a $350 ring? Are you kidding me? AITA for thinking he’s being an inconsiderate jerk for spending half a day’s salary on my engagement ring, and AITA for making my proposal conditional?
EDIT: I've been told to lead with things I mentioned in the comments, such as he has spent $4000 on a Vegas trip, and he's normally not frugal with other things in his life (for example, he has wine more expensive than the ring he bought me), and I just feel unappreciated and that he values his things more than the ONE thing I ever asked for.
I just wanted to say that this was probably the worst post I’ve ever made on Reddit. Sure, I put a lot of costs into my OP; I’m overly analytical as it stands and I was just trying to convey the fact that he, as a doctor, can afford much more than he was willing to spend.
This was taken as an opportunity to run with the “she’s a shallow gold digger who only wants his money” narrative. Never mind the fact that I never ask for anything for my boyfriend. I cook/clean the house without any help from him, we often go Dutch in dates, hell I just bought him a new $500 watch because his birthday is next month (worth more than the ring), and I do pretty much the opposite a gold digger would do.
Sure, call me materialistic because I don’t want a cheapo crappy clearance ring, but the amount of people trying to insist I’m only after him after his money, when it’s patently false, has solidified the fact that I will never post here again. Thank you for those who commented in good faith.
ALSO, RELEVANT TO THE POST; BOLDING BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP COMMENTING ADVICE WHEN IT'S NOT NEEDED. Me and my boyfriend talked. When he realized I was offended at gestures, such that he spent 10x as much on a weekend for himself at Vegas, and I feel he just doesn't value me, he saw where I was coming from and understood how having wine in his cellar worth more than my ring can make me feel unappreciated. He's the "who gives a shit about a dumb rock" person, but when he realized it was valuable to me, he realized it doesn't matter if we share the same values; it's important to me.
Since then, he's now shopping for a ring that he can afford, but what I'd actually like.
[–]Marque0164 points65 points66 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha. What did she buy for him that cost $350? Nothing? Exactly.
AWALT. Leave them in the trash where they belong.
[–]black_and_shredded29 points30 points31 points (4 children) | Copy Link
She said she bought him a $500 watch, lmfao. She makes less than 3x as much as him, too.
[–]dvbtupanit44 points45 points46 points (2 children) | Copy Link
She invested in her future alimony.
[–]Charlamagme8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This.
[–]Marque012 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I didn't read the article. This surprises me :)
[–]Chickens-dont-clap2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
What does AWALT mean
[–]crella-ann3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
'All women are like that'.
[–]Chickens-dont-clap2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ain’t that the truth
[–]throwmehard1212141458 points59 points60 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Does this bitch not feel ashamed that the first line she throws out is what her BF does and how much he makes?
[–]Docbear649 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The subtext is " I'm the kind of woman who can and may be marrying a rich doctor ... now listen to my annoyance"
[–]Blazemoth7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm amazed by the circle Jerk at that post, all other girls telling her she's in the right, like WTF, how stupid can you be to not see the issue?
[–]turtleh0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a fucking clown world.
[–]_be_happy_46 points47 points48 points (1 child) | Copy Link
So... he promised half of his net worth, rest of his life to stick with her, carry for her, protect her, stay with her in good and bad times. Basically he promised himself to her forever and this bitch is complaining that the ring is too cheap? How are men still getting marries I don't understand...
[–]Blazemoth2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit like this makes me happy I decided to have a vasectomy.
[–]Ody_ssey30 points31 points32 points (7 children) | Copy Link
She can't even afford to gift $350 ring and complaining about cheap. She is unemployed as she cleans home and cook she says in her post. This shows she lacks competent skills to get a job and be independent. I don't understand how much a simp you have to be to Ignore her all these traits.
These are the perfect situations where your actual thinking can be noticed. Such people destroy other lives and always wear a fake mask to gain advantages. Hard time reflects who are your actual loved ones.
That doctor is a simp who can't even see that she is with him because of luxurious life she is getting. She is seeking validation for her actions so she can satisfy her materialistic and narcissistic ego. Many of them are supporting her which is exactly what she is there to see.
[–]NewLife_20170 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Curious what the outcome is.. Hopefully he wisened up and this was his “shit test” that she doesn’t failed
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[–]Cuntplainer30 points31 points32 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Hopefully, that was a test and she failed it. He will walk away and ask for the ring back.
[–]Farfromfud15 points16 points17 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Nope. He caved.
[–]Cuntplainer13 points14 points15 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Simp is gonna pay a lot for this stupidity over the years
[–]Blazemoth5 points6 points7 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Just wait till she gets bored and starts trying "more fulfilling stuff" with "more fulfilling people".
[–]Cuntplainer3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I got banned!
[–]lastlaugh1001 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This. Ring could be $5k and she would still find a way to be unhappy. Maybe not now but 7 years from now. "I'm not happy anymore" and cue divorce rape.
[–]Blazemoth0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
XD and you just wait, in 7 years she will be like "Well, remember that shitty ring you tried to give me? is that how much I'm worth to you?"
[–]Blazemoth2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Nope, he's a weak ass idiot.
[–]Cuntplainer1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I got banned!
[–]OatsGYOW29 points30 points31 points (3 children) | Copy Link
The moderator, /u/SnausageFest after locking it,
loooool, what a fucking moron. As if our sub is big enough to brigade. Everyone stating the truth(that she is a gold digging whore) is now MGTOW, I guess. Sure, keep sending them our way, dumbass.
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It could be an excuse to ban the sub, something everyone knows the Admins would love to have
[–]Secret_Combo9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel like this sub has been on borrowed time for a while. Hopefully it stays that way and never get banned
[–]verdantphallus5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Exactly why posts have to be careful
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I have respect for MDs for what they do in community.
But they are second biggest group of simps out there soon after inmates who are locked up due to a woman.
[–]MadMaxXD1234562 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Who're 1st, married military men?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men who commit crimes at behest of vagina under misrepresentation of its theirs; when in reality its merely their turn.
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Stupid gold digging asshole bitch
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Her happiness if graphed is a function of semen intake. And it looks like the y=x line. Sad!
[–]ReV_DeatH0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
r/increasinglyverbose
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Nice! I just peeked over there. That post on that n word is hilarous
[–]ReV_DeatH1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
XD
[–]DangZagnut13 points14 points15 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate how most of her post is to defend herself and say she’s not a gold digger.
All the tacos is there are bitching about how rings are “symbolic” and all that nonsense. Ok. Here’s a giant gaudy plastic ring. It was $15.
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If she's saying she's not a gold digger, her being a gold-digger is already in her stream of consciousness. And if she's thinking about it without anyone influencing her, she's probably a gold digger.
[–]Blazemoth1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She made me remember those "I'm not racist but..." comments. She's a gold digger lol.
[–]heavywepsguy10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This classic explains why she ain't shit and why he needs to walk away from her.
https://pics.me.me/thumb_its-me-or-your-video-games-while-you-are-obviously-43277523.png
[–]TigPlaze8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess it would be expecting too much to want her to be happy for him that he found a great deal.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This just goes to show marriage is strictly beneficial to women only. They get the ring and the princess party while we’re stuck footing the bill.
No thanks.
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How beautiful is a woman love!
[–]treesplease126 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you know what I just spend $1500 on?! Hint, not a ring
Patio furniture; a daybed included. To better spend my solitary hours, looking at the trees, the wind blow through the grass, to drink my coffee in comfort. Aaaah, so much better than a ring
[–]RoboMandrake4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Typically chameleon-to-themselves, she probably thinks this is that one thing that she wants - but actually, its probably just the first in a long line of materialistic self indulgences she'll be getting around to, culminating in divorce rape at the 5-year or 10-year mark after she's entrenched, gotten the kids she wanted (his or from some post-boredom chad). Just cannot trust them to reveal themselves, even to themselves - but people generally have to make their own mistakes.
[–]lastlaugh1000 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A doctor I know is paying $30k a month in alimony to his ex-wife.
They don't even have kids.
She wanted a million dollar house. He declined. She is an accountant and makes $50k/year yet wanted a $1m home, filed for divorce when she didn't get her way. Now she gets $30k/month.
Such bullshit. Never get married! They always become unhappy and will bleed you dry like you are nothing but a work horse.
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Not gunna lie, this one gave me a headache reading it.
[–]shatterthecrystal635 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Let me guess without reading: NTA right?
[–]OptimalAdhesiveness0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Only in a sub filled with shrieking harpy women does someone saying 'my gift of love wasn't expensive enough' NOT constitute an asshole move...
[–]shatterthecrystal631 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I should've bet money, I'd be a millionaire lol.
[–]Global_MGTOW4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It sounds like she cares more about the ring and the status symbol behind it more than a lifetime attachment to her Doctor BF. What she should do is dump the Doctor, because the Doctor can and obviously deserves better and just use her own salary to buy herself a $3,000 ring. There, everybody is now happy.
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Nihilistic whores everywhere.
[–]Zolkia3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And of course that thread is locked. smh
[–]freeMGTOW5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Any man doesn't hear an alarm clock that noisy will lose more than a job.
[–]BigGuysBlitz1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Is there ever a person asking that is not the asshole?
[–]Sir_Koopaman3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He should have dumped her. She lucked out that he doesn't know about us. Give it 10-15 years and I'm sure he'll be on here complaining about how he lost half his money.
[–]oldman_stone5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought every one know you got to spend at least 3 months salary on a ring! That Rule goes back to the 1930s. But you know that's when woman at least had hymen......
[–]fasterfind4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She only likes it if it's fucking expensive. Bitch alert.
She's going to avoid marriage and avoid love because of a dollar amount on a gift? Shit, that level of hamstering... she's only going to get worse with time. She will be insufferable, and will spend all of his money foolishly.
Wow. What a fucking story.
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What a silly Thot
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If she thinks a price tag measures the value of the relationship, she will measure the value of the marriage based upon how much money she can spend. It’s going to fail. Since it was conditional, I’d ask for the ring back, and end the relationship right there. A GREAT test is doing exactly what this man did. Give a cheap ring to determine what her intentions are. Big red flag
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looks like the MOD over there locked the thread and mentioned us in the sticky lmao
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She's out of her damned mind. 'Two months salary' was originally one month, and the slogan was made up by DeBeers in 1930...the average salary for 1930 was $1380 a month. A $1000 ring (even if he got it on sale) is reasonable.
He should really reconsider. If the ring is truly a 'symbol of their love', then the fact that he picked it out and purchased it should be enough. She wants to show off, and needs an appropriate trophy to flash in front of all the women she knows, to show them she snagged a high earner, and rub it in.
Next up will be a $5000-$10000 wedding dress, a $50,000 destination wedding with a week of partying beforehand , a huge house....on and on it will go. He earns his money doing hard work, that money is the sweat of his brow, it's not an unlimited money pool for her to spend as fast as she can. I really hope he reconsiders.
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FUCK that comments section, holy shit. can't believe there's even a discussion about this
[–]theoracleofosiris1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Asks for opinion, gets opinion, gets offended.
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Also on the same post she explained that he:
-Takes her on expensive dates
-Is thinking about spending the money he would've spent on a stupid rock on their vacation
- She doesn't work, so he will be paying for EVERYTHING once they marry.
Most of the NTA post state that "you're right because that's a cheap ring your friends will see", like, who cares???? since when is a ring a symbol of a stable marriage? have you seen that amazon girl? she got a big ass rock that didn't mean shit.
[–]Blazemoth1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, I... I was sure this had to be a troll post, HOW DENSE can she be?
[–]CerebralAbrasion1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She's so close, all she has to do is behave a little while longer and she'll be "entitled" to half of everything he produces in his lifetime. I guess the urges to start shit and henpeck are just too much to resist.
[–]TrainYourMuscle1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL. She is asking the real question : "is a ring really going to be the thing that breaks up a strong 3-year commitment. Like a $350 ring? Are you kidding me? "
This is the question she should ask herself, because she is the one who went crazy about it.
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That cunt moderator called us out?
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Push the bitch and her shit out the door. The future savings are incalculable.
[–]ChiTownBob0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She. Is. A. Liar.
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smh
[–]BloodlessTurnip0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This gal is an idiot. The DOCTOR is on the path to MARRYING her and she threatens to void the best deal of her life over a cheap engagement ring... because she lacks the ability to look into the future and see how much she will take him for in the divorce.
The DOCTOR is an idiot for proposing to ANY woman, let alone one that is so shallow that she is going to void his voluntary enslavement to her because his slave-band is to cheap.
OMG!
[–]OatsGYOW0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You are thinking like a man. There is no long-term plan here - she is just following the money like a fly following shit.
Like most women, she is only ambling into the divorce scam. It is so suited to women, that they really do go in all starry eyed and in love. Once they get bored, they realize they get half his shit, blame him for everything, then take it all.
So yeah, there is no maliciousness here, just raw, unchecked female nature.
[–]buildthewallalready0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Cheap ring for a cheap hoe 😂😂😂
[–]turtleh0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck the amount of simps and bluepills.
"I make minimum wage but I would totally save up and spend everything I have on diamond industry marketing that appeals to thots with shiny things and equates it with LoooOoovVvee"
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This is sad. I hope not all women think this materialistically. I wouldn’t pay more than $350 either way. He made a good decision. I mean they are going to get a good house anyway lol
[–]Whatdoin270 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Most of the people commenting in that thread are agreeing with her. That's even more sad.
[–]FALLOUT_PERK_MGTOW0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a HUGE RED FLAG for the guy. ABORT! ABORT!
What he needs to do is leave her quick! She sounds like one of those annoying females that will never just.. ahem *bursts out singing* let it go, let it goooooo... (ironically girls love this song yet somehow don't understand/apply it)
Either way can't believe a schmuck foolish enough to propose to a brat like that is a doc.
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[–]AttikusEUW17 points18 points19 points (12 children) | Copy Link
Its HIS money and he can decide to spend it how he wants. For him the ring probably has a symbolic meaning, so why tf should he pay more. Actually, to break the gender traditions here, why doesnt the woman pay the rest of her desired upgrade?
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[–]revolsuna8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Hopefully he was just trying to get her to end the relationship for him, because he knew she was a gold digger and would silently rage at a shitty ring.
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Nah, looks like he realized he was being a cheapstake at the end.
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If someone can spend $500 on a bottle of scotch, they can spend $1k on the love of their life. Especially if they are making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Different people have different rules. That’s like saying “why waste money on a trip to Vegas? Save it for your future”. People spend money on things they want; that’s not a hard concept.
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You do you man. If you want to buy your girl a cheap ring from the dollar store, more power to you. As for me, I’m going to actually spend money on something my wife would be proud to wear.
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Because he's making a vow to have and hold her for the rest of her life, to care for her, and to make sure she lives a life of luxury on his dollar.
But no. He's not spending enough amirite ladies
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