Having a Hard Time Accepting This

The_Grand_Wizowd · 2017-09-05T03:18:32+00:00

Yeah, hardest part of my red pill journey too. It really stings when I think back to my ex gf telling me how much she loved me and we were meant to be together, only for her to monkey-branch me. To know it was all a lie really hurts even still. There's no honor or integrity or love to be found in a female heart. Only selfishness and vanity.

2QuietDude · 2017-09-05T03:04:28+00:00

They are human. They've just evolved in a way to maximize their benefit.

aanarchist · 2017-09-05T03:20:10+00:00

my rule i treat everyone like an individual, give them a chance to show you who they are, that they are not a statistic. of course most of the time they prove themselves to be just a statistic but there are a few who prove otherwise. to be closed on new information is utter stupidity and would make you no different than a feminist, keep this in mind as you tote the mantle of mgtow, that it doesn't become a label that defines you and you become every negative stereotype that comes with the title.

JoshCollier777 · 2017-09-05T03:11:20+00:00

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Xlasingx · 2017-09-05T03:35:44+00:00

it's very tough..

..especially when you see it first hand, knowing what you know..

..though this is where you remember,

we are just organisms..

struggling to survive..

floating on a rock..

in space..

..and we have no idea why..

raisins3142 · 2017-09-05T03:07:34+00:00

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mrscene1 · 2017-09-05T04:07:38+00:00

If I may quote a classic Barbara Streisand; they don't love you they 'love the idea of you.'

retraderat · 2017-09-05T04:14:42+00:00

Your mom doesn't even love you

raisins3142 · 2017-09-05T04:58:05+00:00

They are human, they just aren't men.

Protect yourself, but feel pity for them. Imagine being like that. Men can view the world working outside of them and abstract themselves away from it. It's actually the heart of most of the deep experiences I've had. Floating in an Adirondack lake in the height of summer staring into the Milky Way, and feeling so small but part of something so big. And aching from it. Absorbing as much of reality as I could and being humbled and enlivened by it. Now, imagine not being capable of that because everything is about you.

silive · 2017-09-05T03:44:02+00:00

The way women "love" is the same way you'd "love" your car. They are extremely shallow. That's why there is that expression "shallow cunt". Remember that the language always gives you away. Just accept it brother and let it go. P.S. Love is bullshit anyway so do not even use it as a legit word.

aanvals · 2017-09-05T04:15:23+00:00

They love differently than men.

And don't forget, they think we love like they do...

Onkel_Adolf · 2017-09-05T06:11:24+00:00

Men love women love children love pets.

Ineedabetternametoo · 2017-09-05T12:12:02+00:00

That is one of the hardest. You get thru that you begin to see the light. And it is blinding and beautiful.

But it does take some time.

For me the important factor was to not see it with the lenses of good and evil. It is evolution pure and simple. They evolved to survive a harsh world with no claws, no fur, no great strength of muscle or brains. All they have and indeed still have is the vagina-uterus. They had to learn to utilize this to the highest efficiency. Natural selection purged any great feelings of honor, loyalty and love from them. The solipsists had a higher chance of survival and voila.

The chameleon changes color. Women lie.

panzerbier · 2017-09-05T07:55:02+00:00

Agreed. This is fucking painful. I feel the need for a true mate, but I know it is impossible, because women just aren't capable. I actually envy gay guys.

Hippotatamus · 2017-09-05T04:47:37+00:00

Personally, I don't think "love" come out of nowhere unlike some movies try to depict.

Love comes for a reason, maybe because attraction towards physical appearance, personality, deeds, compatibility, and money..

The problem with woman these days they care less about the other attributes of man, they are too greedy and materialistic.

I think it is possible for woman to love you for being you, only that isn't common nowadays and frankly hard to achieve when people break-up for nothing these days and free sex available to everyone. It's hard to form strong bonds under these condition.

NiggaFriedChicken · 2017-09-05T08:42:37+00:00

Are you sure is that? Or are you just craving that fish smelling hole? Like what the fuck? What's so attractive about sex? Sweat? Armpit? Poop? fuck that shit! makes you wonder, according to Enoch, the watchers saw their beauty so they came down to fuck them, traded divinity for pussy! Like what the fuck! I mean do you know what's underneath the skin? why would you shove your penis inside a pussy it ain't different from the earhole, people need anatomy classes.dont be like "King" Solomon who became a joke because of a pussy.

ImmortanV8 · 2017-09-05T10:02:19+00:00

there are two ways of loving: inside-out and outside-in, like this concept in marketing. Inside-out you believe in your self worth and try to put out to the world the best you have. With the outside-in approach you try to create the value of yourself in the perception of the outside world, not within yourself. Women are outside-in, for this they are superficial, always wanting more, cheating and hypocrites and any bad character you can imagine. We perceive it as wrong but for them it is strength. The value of them they create with you is all they care for, hence gaslighting and so on. At the same time you are there not understandig why she doesn't value you, but thats only your inner self-perception. She doesn't share that. She only cares for her value with others, she isn't even able to comprehend what inner worth is!

FlyingSexistPig · 2017-09-05T13:25:18+00:00

The easiest way to think about this is to add the phrase "right now" to whatever a woman says.

"I love you" right now.

She means it when she says it, but it doesn't mean the same thing to her as it does to you.

LawlessDestiny · 2017-09-05T09:39:00+00:00

Slighty off topic but I've been thinking about acceptance lately. I think we also have to accept another thing, pain. With MGTOW I believe many of us feel we can finally leave it all behind and finally be happy, pain-free. I've heard about monk mode but even then we have to accept the pain of the truth. The pain may be dulled with time but there's no day that we might wake up having fully forgotten the pain forever. I've realized that waiting for the pain to go away to finally live and be happy will do the opposite. It will cause us to fall into depression and lifelong bitterness where we won't improve ourselves and seek personal well-being.

OP, now that I think of it, this may not be off topic. Don't let your difficulty in accepting the truth stop you or slow you down from going your own way. It's the same that we shouldn't let the pain of the truth stop us. Don't just exist with the pain, live with the pain. It's there and it will always be, so just keep doing your own thing because it hasn't stopped you so far.

2017-09-05T12:37:08+00:00

The Red Pill sucks honestly. Before it I spent my life making excuses for women, putting them on a pedestal, lusting after them, wanting to protect and comfort them. I thought women (somehow) were the best thing about society and men were generally evil.

Once I had to accept that women are really soulless creatures incapable of love, true sociopaths, basically every single one, it was pretty devastating.

Considering I'm married, the red pill sucks even worse, realizing all the shit I've been put through, how my wife really looks as me as nothing but a paycheck, I was her Plan B at best, probably plan D. It's depressing. Now I'm in a huge rut financially, married, good paying job but broke as hell, I can't get out. Only death will set me free.

cleats4u · 2017-09-05T12:50:52+00:00

You want to believe the woman you are with is loyal and would not emotionally harm or betray you because that is not love. Your writing a script for a movie starring her that lasts your entire life. She is writing a script for the next 30 minutes starring you. However, she did love you in that 30 minutes and she was loyal. Women only see 30 minutes down the road (or less). And there are no consequences for their decisions 90% of the time.

2017-09-05T15:23:24+00:00

I dont believe women cannot love, I believe their love is circumstancial. Meaning that they actually love you when the circumstances are right, this has mostly to do with if you are socially above her or she percieves you this way (also the reason why bad boys get that many girls, they are not above them in a objective manner but in their perception of that bad boy they are, in their mind it goes that if he does not care about me then he must have way more then I have therefore I must have him, vice versa for nice guys). If you drop the ball, or going trough something, this can be a wide variety of things for example: grief, sickness, uncertainty, job problems ect. the circumstances for he love become less and less. The simple reason for this is that she can just jump to another guy who is not going trough trouble which makes him worthy of her love. Men tend to love in a different fasion, they do not love circumstancial they love in a more objective way. Ofcourse men can also fall out of love but this takes more then for women. So I would not argue that women cannot love you only that this being loved is uncertain and basically meaningless because the consistency in the manner which she loves you is weak at best.

To accept this is a hard thing. You can ofcourse accept their love for what it is, therefore taking it when it presents itself but always keeping in mind that it will not as in the fairy tails. This will in turn require you not to fully commit to loving her (but for men this is less of a rational choice, we just love or we do not). The best thing is to just realise what this is and really internalise it. After awhile you do not tend to hate women or find them amazing or anything, they are just there. Sometimes they can be fun but most of the time just kind of boring. Then you can do fun stuff like going on a hike in nature with your male friends, and after that eat a nice steak drink some wiskey smoke some cigars and call it a day. Then the rest of your life is just what you wanna do. It is really liberating.

BubbleGas · 2017-09-05T15:28:52+00:00

You think that's a black pill? No...

The real black pill is that most men will never meet a NAWALT, even though they do exist. Accepting that something is possible, but also highly improbably is a terrible feeling.

We can work hard and make millions in our currency. We can buy cars, guns, houses, boats etc. All these things are possible and probable with the right effort. The one thing that can't be achieved is meeting a NAWALT. Meeting a NAWALT is like winning the lottery. You probably won't do it, but it happens to some people and you hear about it.

The_Law_of_the_Land · 2017-09-05T15:28:55+00:00

Love, from the understanding of the human male is a virtue which is absolute and incorruptible. As a corollary love is unconditional and the placement of love before self (leading to self sacrifice) is tantamount to true love.

Women see love as a conditional state based on feelings which

can change with the wisp of the wind,
is conditional on their hormone levels and your current status in relation to other men, and
requires your consistent willingness to sacrifice yourself for her physically, financially and emotionally, even if it is in vain

Trek13 · 2017-09-05T16:30:58+00:00

Women are not human

actually, they are all TOO human.

this is the hardest red pill to choke down. Raised from birth constantly fed the bullshit that women are special, delicate flowers. That they are our "better halves". It was all a lie.

At least now we have 3rd wave feminism and social media to truly expose their base nature.

Men have at least been portrayed in a more honest way. We know their base natures, all the bad shit they are capable of. But at least it is honest. In the past women were careful to hide their true natures as best they could. There were also strong societal controls in place. One thing I have come to understand a little more is why certain cultures have maintained such harsh controls over women. I still think it is too harsh but at least I have a little more understanding.

WhistlingAlong · 2017-09-05T18:25:29+00:00

Before acceptance comes what you are feeling so that's all I'll say about that.

ThoughtsYouNever · 2017-09-05T21:06:14+00:00

As Good As it Gets. Great movie. "How do you rate women so well?"

This coming from the guy that starred in the movie the witches of Eastwick. Honestly it's like women are literally trying to turn men gay out of frustration.

ThoughtsYouNever · 2017-09-05T21:06:14+00:00

As Good As it Gets. Great movie. "How do you rate women so well?"

This coming from the guy that starred in the movie the witches of Eastwick. Honestly it's like women are literally trying to turn men gay out of frustration.

2017-09-05T21:14:08+00:00

A women will 'love' you if she sees you as the Chad. One minor mistake and your Chad image is gone. She'll think the love is gone and starts fucking another Chad and falls in 'love' again.

But real and unconditional love doesn't exist. Disney has lied to us.

tw-1234a · 2017-09-05T23:12:18+00:00

Your mother probably loved you. But she was a MOTHER. You will not find this same love, or even something similar, from any other woman.

Title	Having a Hard Time Accepting This
Author	obtala
Upvotes	91
Comments	85
Date	September 5, 2017 2:58 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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