How do you avoid the black pill?

astuteglute · 2019-12-20T01:09:00+00:00

Optimistic Nihilism.

Realizing that since nothing really matters, you can do whatever the hell you want. The world is your oyster.

brutalitymuffin · 2019-12-20T02:50:19+00:00

Take the honk pill instead. You know you want to.

DangZagnut · 2019-12-20T01:17:37+00:00

Only religious ding dongs have a problem with nihilism, as it rejects religious and moral conventions preached to you by others, and that there isn’t some grand afterlife you give 10% a year away to achieve.

So don’t be afraid of the scary sounding name. Nihilism gives you personal power to find your own path.

Avoid it, I embrace it. Nihilism plus skepticism gives you the most latitude is side stepping conventions that benefit everyone but you.

ZeroBlink · 2019-12-20T01:14:19+00:00

I came to the same fork in the road where I couldn't see the sense in living and the struggled to find meaning in life. For the first time in my life I was depressed for a week or so.

Fortunately after some intensive meditation I found my answer, I am the one who gives meaning to life, life on it's own does not give me anything.

It is meant to be experienced to the fullest , while I'm still here , I might as well enjoy myself.

strongandhappy · 2019-12-20T01:03:06+00:00

I didn't, I embraced it. I examine everything from the context of what it will do for me, materially or emotionally. You can be nihilist and still feel satisfaction, pride, levity, peace, confidence, a whole slew of positive emotions. Events don't require significance to make you feel good, then you just live every day the best you can.

kfree313 · 2019-12-20T01:28:14+00:00

Have a drink with the boys every now and then and go to clubs by yourself and just sit back and laugh at hoes . Pretty entertaining

2019-12-20T02:22:54+00:00

I took the black pill and painted Honkler's face on it, that does the trick for me.

user_miki · 2019-12-20T01:48:50+00:00

I don't think and temporary nihilism is bad.It forces you to reassess your place in this world.

Alexius_von_Meinong · 2019-12-20T07:36:56+00:00

Understand the difference between knowledge and internalization. This is easy from a MGTOW standpoint. Lots of people have red pill knowledge, but few put it into practice. Putting it into practice means that you have internalized that knowledge—you feel it, you live it, it is a part of you.

Clearly, you have internalized nihilism. You are living it, whether you like it or not. So what do you really believe about nihilism? This is a deceptively simple question. Most people can't authentically answer it without looking into themselves and coming to terms with some unpleasant realities of self-knowledge.

If you feel yourself close to an existential crisis, or in an existential crisis, you may no longer be able to avoid looking into yourself and asking tough questions. Some people can go their entire lives living shallowly and superficially, but sometimes this breaks down, and then there is nothing to do but go to the root of the problem. Here "going to the root of the problem" means trying to authentically figure out what it is you find to be meaningful and valuable.

Your reference to the possibility of ghosting on society and living in the woods isn't nihilism. For some men, isolating themselves is one of the conditions for deep self-reflection. Hence they go in live in the woods, like Thoreau. And for some men, they find that living in isolation is what they feel to be meaningful and valuable.

As long as there is something remaining in your life that you find to be meaningful and valuable, you aren't a nihilist; you are only a nihilist when you come to the point that there is nothing at all that is meaningful and valuable.

Sometimes "taking the black pill" is just a metaphor for getting beyond the shallow and superficial values of contemporary society. Turning your back on this society isn't nihilism, but rather it is a turning toward the things that you find to be meaningful and valuable. For some people this is a serious problem, because they have a deep division in their personality between continuing to fulfill a conventional role in society (having a job, maintaining a house, doing activities with friends, being part of the social world, etc.) and pursuing what is truly meaningful. Sometimes you can go both, but sometimes you discover that one excludes the possibility of the other, and then you have to make a choice.

Patricijaobjectdude · 2019-12-20T10:59:48+00:00

This is how I view reality;

You've been forced into life without your consent and you are strictly forbidden to leave life if you so desire.

Why? Because people claim that subjecting you through this ordeal is "beautiful and the most selfless thing in the world"

Yet creating life is the most selfish act of all, 100% of people who want kinds want them exclusively for their ego.

You've been forced to be here and eventually you'll be thrown out, yet you yourself don't have a say when. This id powerful when you realize this because it basically gives you permission to do whatever the hell you want to while you're here.

You're not here by choice, but now that you are here, and xou know you'll be leaving, make the most out of this situation.

NietzscheExplosion · 2019-12-20T18:03:37+00:00

One must have chaos in oneself to give birth to an dancing star.

Fuxk1n · 2019-12-20T01:02:24+00:00

I'm in this stage now, I just want a cabin in the woods and just enjoy my remaining years. Don't enjoy working or socialising. If I had the savings, BBQ each day chop wood, enjoy a wood stove with a dog and call it a day.

Nohmohrrules · 2019-12-20T01:14:58+00:00

I feel your pain.

The only, and I do mean only, thing keeping me going is a dream of retiring early and traveling.

Otherwise may as well just get it over with.

Can’t help but think about what Sartre said about living in bad faith and the descent.

Sorry, wish I had a way to help but could use the advice myself

2019-12-20T03:20:49+00:00

I don't. I have accepted it.

In my case, as I lost meaning for everything else, I stopped caring about it all and started looking for something I really wanted. Something that I would be happy to have lived for and died for, regardless of whether I gain any success or if I end up as a 100% failure.

Basically, I found a dream, and decided to pursue the dream. That pursuit is what gave me contentment. I don't care what happens anymore. I'll live for my dream, and die while living for it. Sooner or later, it will happen.

The dream provides good escapism from the blackness. It's still there, as it always will be and it continues to grow. But the dream gives me enough power (and fun) to look beyond it.

Octoxo · 2019-12-20T04:42:48+00:00

Absurdism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

captainsaveahoe69 · 2019-12-20T04:48:47+00:00

https://youtu.be/-XvI6Y5Yq8o

jhooperp · 2019-12-20T05:58:13+00:00

Dude not trying to make it worse but none of this will ever matter in the grand scheme of things. Days go by and one day you’ll be gone and eventually everyone who has ever known you will be as well. Then there will be a point where no one alive will ever remember you. It’s just the way it is. I don’t mean kill yourself or anything like that. Just enjoy what you want as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else do whatever you want.

Everyone knows none of this matters but some think it does and convince themselves. Feminists and others like to use phrases like “I’m doing this for the next generation” or “this is so I can look my kids in the eye”. They do it to try and convince themselves that what they are doing matters. They even tell others “you matter remember that” or something like that but they know the truth. It’s all temporary and legacy and history is all just things to blind us from the truth.

carbonblob · 2019-12-20T08:56:44+00:00

The clock is ticking for all of us. Gotta do something with your days.

Sometimes men put massive pressure on themselves to leave a significant legacy. Perhaps out of personal ego/pride than for practical reasons.

Appearing successful to others (based on either strategic dishonesty - or preferably actual accomplishments) is something many men work towards.

The other strategy: some black pill men avoid drawing attention to themselves, as that often invites problems.

You're in control of your time and interests. Literally choose your own path, no need to justify to anyone.

Some guys are nervous about having too much freedom. They acknowledge some structure helps them avoid their vices.

BodaciousOddity0 · 2019-12-21T03:11:34+00:00

well, Nihilism in it of itself is not pessimistic. Nihilism rejects all morals rules and beliefs, it simply states nothing has meaning. It's neither positive or bad, its null. Life, or existence has no inherent meaning and is meaningless for meaningless sake.

Since nothing really has meaning, paint whatever you want on that blank canvas.

Algedonic_Zeit · 2019-12-21T05:52:08+00:00

It's one thing to understand women, it's another to forgive them.

God is real and there are higher realities. Love doesn't mean tolerating the cruelty of others, but it does mean not seeing them as objects like they can see you...

Title	How do you avoid the black pill?
Author	gnulligan
Upvotes	25
Comments	36
Date	December 20, 2019 12:58 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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