I don't understand MGTOW

donglehub · 2015-05-20T23:29:27+00:00

this is hilarious

cornflake2gs · 2015-05-20T23:47:57+00:00

Men need women to complete them.

Stopped right there. There is no way you're serious.

gwensteam · 2015-05-20T23:34:00+00:00

This must be bait. There's so many illogical thoughts here for me to even process what you're saying.

wadewilsonofcourse · 2015-05-21T00:01:16+00:00

how can I convert him

Suck his dick and after he ejaculate, turn yourself into a PS4.

AugmentedFury · 2015-05-20T23:36:47+00:00

Men do not need women to complete them. This is a fallacy that has been repeated over and over again with no basis. Can you cite the studies that you have read that makes those claims of women being more intelligent than men? Because as it stands right now, it's mostly men that are responsible for every scientific and engineering advancement in history and present.

It is true that the typical single man(Non-MGTOW) who longs for a relationship isn't happy, but neither are those who find it and get married. After marriage men realize that they were duped, bamboozled, and lead astray into a life of servitude to a woman. Most men after years of marriage are not happy because their woman is demanding, narcissistic, and stupid. Not to mention many women let themselves go (gain weight) after marriage. All it takes is the woman saying one day "I'm not happy anymore, I want to leave", and the man gets divorce raped. He is then forced to pay for a woman that fucked him over for who knows how many years.

LTRs are a raw deal for men. Men must do everything and get almost nothing in return except for the almighty golden vagina.

MGTOW is the only way to avoid this.

mydark · 2015-05-20T23:31:27+00:00

Trolling?

Legionality · 2015-05-21T00:23:35+00:00

Jet fuel cant melt steel beams.

pirate6728 · 2015-05-20T23:52:57+00:00

I have but one word to say about what I just read.

BULLLCCCRAPPPP!!!! In no uncertain terms. If you want, I can repeat that a little louder so you can understand it better.

I have been twice married and divorced. I got lucky, no children so no child support, and only the most minimal alimony for the shortest period of time. In those marriages, I had about all of a "woman's touch" that a body can stand. Much more of that kind of touching and I might not be here to type this out--- I'm not joking. I've had other dates too in between times -- not during the marriages, I don't play the cheating game-- and I find that on most women's charts I just don't make the grade. I'm 5'-5" which places me well below the over 6' that most women demand, and as a working man I seem to make less money than "Princess Cuddly" seems to think she needs to be haaaapppppyyyy. So--- that ends that. My suggestion for your MGTOW friend down the hall??? "Dude, if you value your life or your sanity--- RUN!!!" I'm guessing that if he IS indeed MGTOW, he won't have to be told that twice because he'll know exactly what is meant.

MGTOW_philosopher · 2015-05-20T23:53:04+00:00

I think we should treat this as a serious person asking questions.

Men don't need women to complete them. I am very complete all by myself. It is true that people need to have friends, but they don't need a female. If somebody looks to others to complete him, he will never find happiness. Only you can complete yourself.

What studies are you talking about? Please cite them for us.

You want to “convert” the MGTOW you know? Don't approach him with the mindset of converting him, but rather to understand him. Go up and talk to him. But if he doesn't want to talk, the polite thing to do is to leave him alone.

ancap-biochemist · 2015-05-21T01:27:34+00:00

Men need women to complete them.

In what sense? I have fully functioning organs, so it's not like I need spare parts to complete myself.

Oh, wait, did you mean in the silly Aristophanes's Speech from Plato's Symposium sense of "complete"?

Because, sorry to burst your bubble but Zeus never existed, and, thus, never split humans in twain... Souls, also, don't exist as far as modern science can tell, and thus the romantic notion of soul-mates is also superstitious nonsense. But... Thanks for the concern, I guess. I'm not sure if you're a concern troll now, or not.

Men need women to guide them towards perfectin.

Oh now you're not even trying to construct a coherent argument - did your spell checker turn off or something?

Many studies I have read said that women are more clever, intelligent, and clear thinking then men.

I'd like to see those studies; do share.

A single man can never be as happy as a married man.

Wow... never?

What about henpecked? can a single man ever be as henpecked of a husband as a married man? How does that fall into the calculation?

The average married man is many times more happy then a single guy.

Many times? Are you saying multiples, magnitudes, or instances? because if marriage multiplies a man's happiness, then I think that would have a similar effect as cocaine, if memory serves me, on dopamine pathways.

With all this said why do you guys want to be single?

I know, it's a shock. You'd think with the pure euphoria that you describe marriage as people would be insane not to get married... it is as though... hmm... we don't see it as a constant euphoric experience to be married... strange, don't you think?

how can I convert him?

Here's what you do; you lock him in a room with a woman who has a shock collar remote, so that she can order him to do things under the threat of pain. Granted, this is not the same magnitude of pain as the threat of divorce or having your kids taken away, but, baby steps - you're acclimating him to the female presence.

People often say that women have a "civilizing effect" on men, this is part of his "conversion" that you seek. You're basically house training him for women.

Now, once the MGTOW has been locked in the room with the woman with control of his shock collar for 10 years (in most states for alimony to kick in, plus the common law marriage through cohabitation)... then he will be converted and his desire for freedom will be broken. He will be utterly submissive to females, especially the one with the remote.

Next (and this is important for you to convert him from being a sad MGTOW with money and freedom, into a happy, poor, obedient lapdog for women), you have to explain to him how his free time, disposable income, mobility, intelligence in questioning social morēs, and all the other freedoms he loves - are actually wrong. And, in fact, he'll be happier without those freedoms.

Then, you will have converted and "civilized" him.

Go away, Gwen. Stop treating men like female lapdogs who can't be happy if not properly converted into a tail-wagging, female-dependent (dependent for happiness) tools.

Go away and never come back. MGTOW is not for you.

Iwavvns · 2015-05-21T06:23:10+00:00

get out troll

donglehub · 2015-05-20T23:56:40+00:00

please don't reply to this person nor take them seriously. Click their profile and check what they are about.

wadewilsonofcourse · 2015-05-20T23:59:09+00:00

And the holocaust didn't happen.

Also, Steve Jobs worked on a PC.

A MMA fighter would be killed by a ninjutsu guy below his weight.

Ok, I'm out of ideas. Anyone got something on obvious trolling?

Also, since you guys are the easiest to troll ever, my bet is 97 comments.

pirate6728 · 2015-05-21T00:57:09+00:00

OK, this thread has been a slice, but..... Mr Goodbarn, get us on impulse power. One third astern on starboard engine, one third ahead on port engines... get us out of here. Steady up on 222.4, ahead one-half impulse.

LeeryLucifer · 2015-05-21T07:12:05+00:00

Gwen. You are a troll. We all know you are. My guess (I troll sometimes too):

You're bored at work and find it entertaining to see all the replies you are getting.
You are extra entertained by the fact that lots of the guys here are pissed off at your outrageous over-the-top "men exist to serve women" shit.

If you are not a troll, then I am guessing you are mentally retarded and your husband has some seriously fucked up fetish for that kind of thing.

Isaiah4verse1 · 2015-05-20T23:41:40+00:00

Now that was pathetic.

crazydave1979 · 2015-05-21T02:25:06+00:00

Was this post even written by a fucking man?

Yakatonker · 2015-05-21T02:59:55+00:00

You should browse the manosphere, especially r/TRP to get a rounded picture on the school of MGTOW thought, which is really the most advanced form of Red Pill Philosophy.

For beginners of the idealogy I recommend Sandman or Turd Flinging Monkey, their videos are short and to the point about Gynocentrism, women and red pill philosophy.

You stated that women can be intellectual however there are limitations to everything. Women do not utilize their intellect for the betterment of men, rather they act on their biological economy to fulfill their imperatives, imperatives which are radically different from mens. Women have their own perspective on the world and are not the good natured creatures men of present pedestal, this is and has been know for millennias as is written in ancient literature.

If you've ever digged into The Odyssey, King James Bible, Romanticist Literature(old scholarly, not the feminist rewrite), Greek(Pandora) you'll find ancient schools of philosophy all harped on women for being sirens, usurpers, cause of all evils on men, and or highly manipulative. Men are biologically deficient, a beautiful women irregardless of a non existent personality is extremely attractive to men and women know this, they'll utilize her beauty to extract resources from men, and on top of that women perceive for the most part two types of men, or what is termed as Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks(AF/BB). Meaning there are a few men(less then 20% of the populous of men) who give them tingles(female hard on). That means 80% of men are seen as non sexual beings who're utilized as as resource generators for children. Also why have the wars of old been fought by men? Why must men bottle their feelings up? Why do men get significantly harder prison sentences for similar crimes as women? Its because society places a value on women, not only is this value inherent when they're born but in comparison to men, they have none. As a man you'll only ever have value to Gynocentric society if you're somebody, if you either have any three of the female desirability trinity in rank order, wealth/social status, beauty, social proof. If you have none of those you don't exist in this society. Many men are finding this out there hard way thanks to the shitty economies in the West. Lack of affordable housing and tuition debt has effectively gated a majority of men out of the dating market. The female factor in this is their biological mating strategy, Hypergamy. Women always seek a better partner, this is not an exception, AWALT(all women are like that) meaning if a women can find a better man she'll leave immediately with no remorse. Women can do this because their biology gives only social value to men with the desirability trinity(mentioned above).

There's more to it, but society has of this last century been selling men a shitty can of wurms. Women do not enrich the lives of men, if anything women send men to their graves at least a decade earlier.

pirate6728 · 2015-05-21T09:49:55+00:00

OK. Gwen is probably a troll. If she's not a troll, she'll do until the real thing comes along.

Having said that: Her writings here have been a textbook example of EXACTLY why a man would go MGTOW. I mean, really. She has managed to state her position in the worst possible way to get anybody to change his position, and has confirmed your worst suspicions about "Princess Cuddly" and her pampered sisters. Hey--- no question that marriage is great for the wife. It looks a lot like a sentence of drudgery for the husband, though. Done with it forever--.

PiratedEmotionDealer · 2015-05-21T11:46:12+00:00

You don't need to understand MGTOW. It isn't for you.

Hodensack666 · 2015-09-03T11:19:05+00:00

Men need women like hemorrhoids and parasites to live happily.

BrokenSystem1234 · 2015-05-21T01:59:20+00:00

Married MGTOW here. You are wrong on so many levels. I don't need my wife to complete me. And she for sure as hell doesn't need me to complete her. Your studies are moronic. Clever, intelligent and clear thinking, wow... you must not be married. My wife is smart and hard working, this is what got her to where she is. She yields to me for "clear thinking" Women think with their emotions, not their logic. I don't want to be single or married, I want to be me. That's all I want to be, so I am. I've gone "my own way to be me" My wife has done the same. We cohabitate and raise children. We don't fight, we respect each other in higher level thinking and take care of each others physical needs. At no point does she "complete me." I don't recommend any man get married, at the moment i feel very lucky, but as the MGTOW reddit has shown me, fucking help me if she wants a divorce. But I really don't see that happening. If you would like to talk more about this I will.

I have very easy and simply convinced all of my single male friends to stop dating for love. When someone presents you the facts, the obvious choice for these men is to get a vasectomy and stop looking for "love." Love doesn't exist, it isn't real. Respect, integrity, honesty, passion, those are things that exist. If love is all of these things then yes I love my wife. Which is a word I do often use and so does she. Anyways, enough blab blab I'm done.

Edit: After seeing your post in /r/marriage you're definity a troll. Waste of time...sigh.

Candace_Thunderthigh · 2015-05-21T20:45:36+00:00

I know how you feel, sista. There are some hot guys i want too but they rather be happy looking at porn and playing video games. thats why soul sista Sarkeesian is trying to infiltrate that industry to wake them up that women exist! We deserve attention and love!

Title	I don't understand MGTOW
Author	gwensteam
Upvotes	0
Comments	67
Date	May 20, 2015 11:24 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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