I'm considering getting married. No sarcasm

VoxVirilis · 2017-08-15T20:21:37+00:00

If you decide to do this, please hit the unsubscribe button to the right.

Thanks.

BooDoug · 2017-08-15T20:22:44+00:00

Don't try to be a hero.

TyrannicalWill · 2017-08-15T20:31:52+00:00

The world doesn't need more cucks

serpent_of_paradise · 2017-08-15T20:24:57+00:00

Do you really think the world needs you to reproduce? Sounds like you haven't done much with your life so far, so don't make more of you.

Xlasingx · 2017-08-15T20:48:40+00:00

if your concerned about your dna being out there, you can donate semen to a sperm bank.

if you want kids, adopt.

if you want your life and children to be owned by a female and the state, get married.

you have been warned.

Alocaco · 2017-08-15T21:03:34+00:00

She is approaching the wall and she knows it.

I don't love her and I know that she is no unicorn.

Please include these two lines in your wedding vows. Be sure to practice then every single day, from now till the moment you say 'I do'.

Be sure to study each word, and understand what they mean to you, and to the woman you are going risk half of your possessions with.

And remember them when your son asks you 'Dad, how will I know when I found the right woman?'

blue-dot · 2017-08-15T20:40:36+00:00

It's she putting this pressure on you, or are you concerned about being alone?

Nogals · 2017-08-15T20:12:13+00:00

Isn't the ratio of women to men like 10000:1 in Estonia?

Nawrat · 2017-08-15T20:47:51+00:00

If you want to get married, get married. However you shouldn't get married if you can't tolerate the divorce risk. Consider all the divorce risks and if you can tolerate them (child support, alimony) then proceed.
If you want to get married out of fear, out of scarcity (which sounds like) and out of desperation than that's not gonna last long which makes it even more important to protect yourself against failure and set a safety net

MediocreHolocaust · 2017-08-15T20:59:48+00:00

Brah.

secret626 · 2017-08-15T20:55:11+00:00

Rest in peace.

2QuietDude · 2017-08-15T21:26:24+00:00

Might be the cringy-est post I've seen on here.

quietday · 2017-08-15T21:09:22+00:00

I don't love her

Then don't get married. If you're insecure about getting another girl, just sign up for salsa / bachata lessons, preferably in a college latin club. Even if you suck at it, you'll be forced to talk to girls during the rotations. In a couple of years you'll begin to get better at dancing and females will throw themselves at you regardless of your looks, only because you'll get an excuse at handling females.

Marrying in love is the way to go, it makes the bullshit a bit more palatable, you might even get a magic mushroom growing in the pile of shit.

IslandicFreedom · 2017-08-15T21:11:31+00:00

The thing is there are labels and conformity with society. "Marriage" and "Children", these things are presented as wholesome and purposeful in society. Family values.

I'm going to say it, from personal experience and from people I've known in the past who've had this lesson. Marriage is no cake walk, but you sure as shit better actually fucking love and want to be with that person if you get married.

"I might not ever find anyone else" is not the reason to get married. And you just said you don't love her.

Rather stay alone and I'll tell you why. If you are alone you'll be in a better position to find someone who you actually love.

I know MGTOW isn't for you, and I'm not going to give you MGTOW advice. Frankly, I don't think you're ready for MGTOW and you have already made your mind up about having kids.

But just make sure you have kids with the right woman. After you have kids you can expect your relationship to change, possibly even degrade. From my experience, I've only ever seen relationships get worse from having kids.

By the way, there's a reason marriage failure rates are so high, it's because of reasoning like you have (or I had) and there's a very real risk you'll be 40, divorced and wonder where 10 years of your life went.

Rather don't go down that road.

HowlSkank · 2017-08-16T00:28:40+00:00

Never say "this might be your best chance", especially if you don't love her. You're only creating MASSIVE problems for yourself - and what's EVEN WORSE, for the kids you have with her. Because 1 of 2 things is likely. A) you end up getting divorced, costing you TONS of dough & leaving your kids to be raised by a single mom (which if you don't know, is the worst thing ever); or B) you stay together "for the kids" - which is fine for 18 - 20 years or however long it takes, but then the kids grow up & move out & you're stuck in a loveless marriage with someone you don't much like & by that time, will resent with all your heart.

Remember that men age like wine, while women age like milk. You're right, she does know she's approaching the wall, and she knows there's some beta sucker out there who will bend over backwards & shell out a lifetime of cash just to shoot his load in her baby chamber. If you aren't 100% sure this is a women you could be happily stuck with for the rest of your life, DON'T BE THAT FAGET. Focus instead on building your perfect life. Make money, build your status - if you want those things- at the very least, surround yourself with things that make you happy. If you successfully become a self-realized, powerful* man, you will have plenty of further chances to build the family that you WANT.

Nezborn02 · 2017-08-15T20:16:46+00:00

You have one life. Choose how you want to spend it

Slaide · 2017-08-15T21:14:44+00:00

What is more important to you?

Having whiny kids/wife who are never satisfied and who'll make you miserable until old age. Oh yeah, I don't know the stats for Estonia, but remember that the odds of a marriage making it to 10 years is like less than 10%.
Having money and doing what you want with it.

Pick one.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2017-08-16T03:32:36+00:00

$1,500 per month alimony, $1,000 per month child support.

Pope_Lucious · 2017-08-16T04:23:48+00:00

Did you forget which sub you're on? You're asking us to endorse your decision to go back to the plantation? Do what you want.

darkrood · 2017-08-16T04:52:54+00:00

Although im not intimately familiar with the local marriage laws.

I guess you just refuse to do your homework.

tamass18 · 2017-08-16T05:22:40+00:00

You're being offered the ultimate shit test and you're looking to fail it miserably. Plus why on Earth would you marry someone that YOU don't even love. That's got to be the dumbest compromise ever.

plutosheen · 2017-08-16T07:25:52+00:00

Even bluepillers will tell u not to marry her if u don't love her.

lonewolfhistory · 2017-08-15T20:11:10+00:00

Personally I'd say do what you want but get a lawyer to look over your stuff and find a way to protect you better than a prenuptial agreement. Just in case

Doxmiplz · 2017-08-15T21:31:27+00:00

Lets get Socratic here. Why do you desire children before you die?

scaur · 2017-08-15T21:35:58+00:00

Sound like a demanding person, good luck.

fuu999 · 2017-08-15T22:00:42+00:00

You don't need to be married if you want a family, you need to be married so your wife can screw you

mthrowaway52 · 2017-08-15T22:03:35+00:00

Go ahead. Suicide is always an option when she inevitably destroys your life.

But hey at least you got a big party and your dick wet one last time.

knightwhosaysneet · 2017-08-15T23:08:42+00:00

You have oneitus. Cause if you were able to fuck multiple women...her idle threats wouldn't phase you.

TB409 · 2017-08-15T23:48:57+00:00

poors out a 40oz *

R.I.P

LeonardArbor · 2017-08-16T00:07:04+00:00

You are too young to get married, MGTOW aside. She has already lost 90% of her eggs and her value. Your sperm count however, hasn't changed. Think about what this means.

da_real_donald_trump · 2017-08-16T00:29:46+00:00

Get a fucking prenup or you're an idiot.

TK3600 · 2017-08-16T00:30:18+00:00

Hey, you are 30 and you think this is your last chance? You have another 20 years. I will have you decide on your own, just laying out the fact here. And guys, no need to be harsh, his fate is in his own hands just let him decide.

ClickUsername4MGTOW · 2017-08-16T00:56:57+00:00

Freeze your sperm if you want children, and dump this girl, she is immature to try and force marriage on you. You see all of us MGTOW guys enjoying life, do you really want to be left out on that?

JayJayEcks · 2017-08-16T01:28:06+00:00

You're about to be roasted and you're decided to wear gasoline soaked tightey whiteys.

RedPillMGTOW · 2017-08-16T01:43:35+00:00

What am I missing.

A few brain cells and iq points.

ACertainKindOfFool · 2017-08-16T02:03:56+00:00

What exactly are you asking from us? You know our consensus, you know our reasons, and you know what you should be taking into consideration. If you are asking why you would come to a different conclusion despite a shared knowledge base, that is simply because we have different priorities. You clearly desire a woman, you clearly desire children, and it would seem you have little other ambition or purpose in your life, making the risk worthwhile in your mind. MGTOW have other meaning and purpose to their lives, so the risk is not worthwhile in ours.

Kawaii_Knight · 2017-08-16T02:12:53+00:00

Your choice. Your suffering.

sidel3 · 2017-08-16T02:14:38+00:00

Do you even MGTOW?

Sivitiri · 2017-08-16T02:29:56+00:00

Go for it, if you've read this sub you've seen stories about this, but you wont know until you put your own hand on the hot stove. Be sure to write back in a year when you've got blisters. We love a good i told you so story

lonewolf-chicago · 2017-08-16T02:43:14+00:00

A year after you're married...2 at most you will realize you made the biggest mistake of your life.

Its like volunteering to Go to Prison...

Wolf-Bitch · 2017-08-16T02:46:29+00:00

You can't save her.

balancedben · 2017-08-16T03:54:49+00:00

You silly,goofy,clueless,weak de balled man.

youtubefactsbot · 2017-08-16T04:08:29+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_dGpR_aAao

Zealomon · 2017-08-16T04:16:37+00:00

Why are you here asking about it? If you have so much doubt about getting married that you come here of all places, what do you think that means for you? It's made even worse since you mentioned your girlfriend was going to leave you and all that you are if she isn't going to get any kids from you, but you're here pondering the same thing: kids, kids, kids.

"I don't even love her." You deserve to get cucked so hard if you're not bullshitting us.

Pk_s_to_the_yizzle · 2017-08-16T10:12:42+00:00

Marry someone you don't love, AND the Stress of LIVING AND PROVIDING for that LIE will haunt you EVERYDAY, until YOU EAT BULLET CEREAL or HAVE A HAVE A HEART ATTACK.

Ask me how I know.

ALSO: That was when I was 28. I'm in my 40's now and the 28 YEAR OLDS still call LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO GET KNOCKED UP AND LOCKED UP (a place to live).

You'll be fine. Take the NEXT bus, if you DON'T WANT TO WALK ALONE.

bonusfruit · 2017-08-16T12:02:07+00:00

This life isn't for everyone. Do what you gotta do

Dank_Meems · 2017-08-16T12:23:53+00:00

Your Gf is projecting her own shitty insecurity onto you and thus giving you anxiety. Don't fall for it.

Spacecowboy32 · 2017-08-16T15:37:04+00:00

get a surrogate for a kid, Kids are a ton of work though, but a worthwhile endeavor in my opinion, if I had a do over that would be the way to go. Don't sign your life away, I don't know what divorce is like in estonia but marriage is endgame for women, only one person wins a game, after that she doesn't have to do anything to keep your marriage together while you get to dance like an idiot for her.

cashmoney_x · 2017-08-16T16:58:33+00:00

"I know enough that if I don't marry her another woman might not come along ever. I'm getting older and It took a lot of luck to even get this girl.

This attitude GUARANTEES misery for you once you guys have kids. Women HATE being the less invested one with more power.

The_Law_of_the_Land · 2017-08-16T18:54:41+00:00

when did we merge our sub with r/relationships

omg_ppl_are_stupid · 2017-08-16T22:45:28+00:00

You do not need to get married to be a father. You can borrow my kids anytime. :) JK. I am married, yes i'm here on MGTOW. Didn't find till much later. My wife is fairly tolerable. Yet.... knowing what I know now... NOPE! DO NOT DO IT. Focus on yourself, live extremely cheaply, save up a ton of cash and find a womb for your sperm. Not someone you know. Someone you can pay to make your baby. If you say you can't afford that, then you can't afford to have a kid. This way you can have a kid on your own without the influence of a wife. To be honest, being a father to my sons is what i do for fun, for a hobby etc. They are my world, and I wouldn't have known what i was missing if i never had them. But it is HARD!!! VERY HARD!!! With or without help and/or money.

thermokilometer · 2017-08-16T23:08:51+00:00

Everyone here seems to be so negative. I also live in Europe, so I agree that it isn't as risky as overseas. The decision which way to go can only be made by you in the end, asking on this sub is certain to give you certain anwers.

She told me that if I don't plan on having children with her and marrying her

It seems that your only problem is the marriage part since you

don't want to die without having children

anyways.

But why is it necessary to be married if you two both want kids? Not getting married is not something that is still that frowned upon. The best thing to for you as a couple is to talk about it and to figure it out. I believe that she knows what your thoughts on men's rights are anyway and therefore she should also be able to listen to you. Communication is key.

However I wish you the best of luck and that you will be able to make a decision.

And also, if you get married than better be safe than sorry. I believe prenups are enforcable in Estonia so this could come handy if things really would be going downwards seven years from now.

jgirn81 · 2017-08-20T06:34:48+00:00

Don't get married!!!!!! I only found out about Mgtow after marriage, and I wish I did earlier! It's BS.

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dr1nya · 2017-08-16T03:45:33+00:00

I'd say ,if it's not US, Canada or Britain , go for it. Marriage in western countries is financial suicide, in eastern Europe, Russia and ex ussr countries it is not that bad.

Title	I'm considering getting married. No sarcasm
Author	labelsareforsoup
Upvotes	9
Comments	60
Date	August 15, 2017 8:04 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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