“It’s just your turn” understanding

Bijan2000 · 2019-10-28T16:11:29+00:00

Women are motivated to pursue a man with money more as they age

Bartand · 2019-10-28T16:19:02+00:00

Women have it 10 time easier. That's why they find someone 10 time faster than the last AKA monkey branching.

LOIKDU · 2019-10-28T16:56:52+00:00

Okey so you're asking the most interesting question of all, and you are damn right to ask this question.

There is no way to prove mathematicaly that all women are like that (AWALT). There are ways to prove it with sociology, evolutionary psychology, biology, but you can't do that statisticaly... alone.

We already have the study that says that more than half of mariages end in divorce and that 80% of these are initiated by the fairer sex, right.

But i bet you still ask yourself, what about the other women ? What about the women who are not married yet ? What about the women who are not born yet ? Hell, what about the women who are dead ? Were they like that ?

And no one knows, but here's the deal breaker, assuming this "good" woman exists, if you want to find out a unicorn, it's gonna take you many life times of break ups and getting cheating on (let alone divorce-rapes).

I don't know how much you suffered, but do you have the ressources to try again and again ? Do you have time, energy, money, and the endurance to keep chasing a unicorn, and getting cheated on and on, to be litteraly paralysed by pain.

I mean, i bet that right now you've been spending most of your thinking time about the last girl you've been cheated on. You can't get her out of your mind, and it will last for at least months if not a year or more. Once you'll heal, are you ready to subject yourself to another round of speaking to your next target, dealing with her bullshit, spending money on her, trying to get into her pants, and then who knows how it's gonna end ? (There are so much shitty ways it may end, and it will be after you will be so dedicated to her because you will have done so much efforts, and she will be so entitled that she won't give a fuck about what you've done for her - that's the classic scenario.)

Now look, we can't demonstrate AWALT, i'll admit that, but we chose to act as if it was true, because it's practical, it works in reality because it saves you so much trouble.

The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Have some compassion for yourself. You're not forced to chose this battle, anyone who shames you into trying to chose this battle didn't weight the pros and cons, and is too brainwashed to do it anyway.

You're a mathematician, here's the balance, here are the positives, here are the negatives, sum them up, you'll find a negative number.

That's your proof.

DangZagnut · 2019-10-28T18:07:39+00:00

can anyone point me in the direction of science supporting the monkey branching behaviour

You think any university would be allowed to study, much less publish such a thing?

There are plenty of surveys where they simply just ask people if they cheat, and the numbers are pretty big.

Even if such a study were done, it would only show how many did cheat, it isn't like the opportunity doesn't always exist for women. It only starts to fade when they get old and dump and have 3 kids and 5 daddies.

All women absolutely can cheat, it's just a matter of how many admit to it or get away with it.

It's like a gun, it doesn't matter how many chambers are loaded. I wouldn't hold up one to my head on a "hope" that it isn't the bullet with my name on it.

You've seen the statistics in your own life. Studies would mean little and be spurious at best. This is one of those experiential things. Al women can cheat, and many do, regardless of age or time married. Women have close to unlimited opportunities.

The only things preventing women from fucking everything 24/7, is that they're sexual selectors with thick filter criteria, and that women, relative to men, have zero sex drive. If men had the same possible options they would be fucking for 60 straight years.

So with women it comes down to her mood that day, zero personal responsibility and accountability, and getting away with it.

If she isn't trying to maintain a beta bill payer, then she'll do whatever she wants all the time.

MuleFool42 · 2019-10-28T21:12:24+00:00

Well, I'm no actuary but bottom line, once is a random coincidence, two establishes a pattern.

Now most women will tell you that it's your fault for picking the wrong women but in reality, more women cheat than ever before. So don't ever commit, never marry, never live with anyone, and basically adopt the strategy of viewing women the same way that they view you. It's just your turn, they WILL monkey branch, so mitigate risk and be ready to move on at the drop of a hat. Keep your wealth and assets safe by never living with anyone you're dating.

In fact, sex is better when you're not living together.

strongandhappy · 2019-10-28T16:35:30+00:00

I don't have references on hand, but according to your statistics you suck at identifying faithful women. Try this, play the woman's part. Be as attractive, physically and personally, as you can, let them come to you, and never offer anything in return but your company. See how many good women go for it. That's my strategy, and I rest easy knowing I'll be mgtow for life.

FewActinomycetaceae0 · 2019-10-28T17:12:54+00:00

i am not sure about monkey branching behavior statistics, but the statistics of marriage based on 10 years are out there, i believe that there is a less than 92% chance of your marriage lasting 10 years on average, also different statistics will affect that outcome, some positive some negative like you / your partners degrees, religiosity, income disparity, delta weigth, health, raised in two parent household (MOTHER FATHER [not clown world freakshows]) and various other factors.

Also forgot a very important statistic, if she has 10 or more partners, your average excluding all the other negative factors of a 10 year marriage collapsed to less than 24% just by itself, add all the other additional things and good luck if its even 2 or 3 % probability for a 10 year time frame.

you have much higher odds playing Russian roulette, hell literally any game of chance, even the casino wouldn't duck you over with these kinds of odds knowing that no one would play,

FewActinomycetaceae0 · 2019-10-28T17:17:37+00:00

Key thing that no one mentions, EVERY YEAR you have a slightly higher than 50% chance of divorce, so it has to be compounded every year X number of years you est. being married.

Also, the 80% is actually more like 90% because the women will manipulate the man to file for divorce in almost half of the 20% of cases in which men file by making it either completely intolerable or convincing him to do it to not come off as the bad guy (initiator) and look good in society's eyes.

no_patrick_the_lid · 2019-10-28T17:49:48+00:00

(This somehow turned into an essay. Summary in bold at the bottom.)

"It's just your turn" manifests from the intersection of female nature, economics, and human psychology — specifically Briffault's Law, the Law of Diminishing Returns, and behavioral tolerance (respectively). To begin, Briffault's Law states:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol. I, p. 191 (emphasis mine).

This implies that all relationships exist as a means for women to extract some resource(s) from a man. This is corroborated by womens' preference for older men (who presumably have more resources), wealthier men (who are resourceful by definition), engineering/legal/doctoral students (who are assumed will become wealthy), and Chad (who typically only provide strong genes). Thus, when a woman needs a resource and has a man available to extract that resource from, (in Chad's case, literally), she will seek a relationship with him. This is the basis for hypergamy, which I will not go into here.

Now we enter the realm of econimics. As a woman extracts resources from her man, her need (and thus, her benefit) from extracting more of that resource diminishes. To use Chad as an example, once she has been pumped and seeded, she no longer needs his genes. Now the sex he provides is virtually worhtless, but food, shelter, and financial support have just increased in value. At this point, she will either demand these more valuable resources from him (i.e. child support) or disassociate with Chad and seek out another male who can provide them (i.e. cuckoldry).

And finally, we arrive at psychology. To continue the previous example, let's say that she chooses to stay with Chad for the time being. He agrees to let her move in, providing her food and shelter. He even takes her out once a week. But she gets used to this, so he has flowers delivered. Then it's chocolates. Then diamonds, and then a car. But as time goes on she grows accustomed to each gift yet still seeks the rush of getting something bigger and better. Eventually, her needs outpace our once-Chad's ability to provide, and she disassociates with him. If she does this before moving out, it's a dead bedroom; after, you get a single mother. Either way, she will seek out a new man with the resources she needs and start a relationship with him in order to secure those resources. She will already have a tolerance for flowers, diamonds, and cars, and thus he will enter in paying a premium that only goes up over time. Lather, rinse, repeat - the cycle continues.

In summary, women only seek men for what they think they will get. Once they have that, they will desire more and either leave him immediately, or increase what they ask of him until he refuses to or cannot provide any more, at which point they will leave him. Which is why we say "she's not yours, it's just your turn."

user_miki · 2019-10-28T21:25:14+00:00

How about simple questions.If women filed 70 to 90% of divorces(depend of the sources of data) they love their men or not.There are 2 possibilities here.

1.Women don't love men but love what they provide.

2.The majority of men are all bastards and oppress those women.

I go with option number one.

Secondly ,

According with surveys made on dating sites several times and different ones ,.....men found approx 80% of women sexually attractive and women found only 10-15 % of men to be attractive.

So there are statistically significant data that shows women don;t like the majority of men to be sexually attractive or have relationships with them.

Title	“It’s just your turn” understanding
Author	oskajoerg
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Date	October 28, 2019 4:08 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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