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[–]Volentimeh435 points436 points437 points 7 years ago (54 children) | Copy Link
And look at the prosperous civilization they've built.
No seriously, it's right over there, behind the hut made of sticks.
[–]Omnibrad158 points159 points160 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And the shithole.
[–]Mad_King68 points69 points70 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao, i laugh too much for this.
[–]UselessEater8134 points35 points36 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And the hut made of sticks was made by men.
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[–]Volentimeh89 points90 points91 points 7 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
As compared with this utopia we are all living under
Compared to any other time in history? yes we are living in a utopia.
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[–]Deus_Vultan9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
who lives with air conditioning :S
[+]arendt1-30 points-29 points-28 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Good comeback - you portray the exact problem nowadays- ideological intransigence on social media
[–]DemonicPotatox45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
yes, his ideology of a failing civilization compared to the successful western utopia that we're living in is the problem
[–]l3v1athaN_14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not an argument.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am truly embarrassed for you.
[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Not really, in the last 20 years on average 127,000 people every single day have been saved from abject poverty. Thats only since 1999 and people were saved from poverty by capitalism far before 1999, thats just since then. No one is worse off now than they would be if "the patriarchy" didn't exist. That is not to say suffering isn't real in the world- like you said however its relative. Some people are obviously better off than others, say what you will about the fairness of that, but EVERYONE is better off than they would be otherwise.
[+]arendt1-7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Tell that to my Syrian neighbors
[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
They still have it better than their ancestors no matter how bad it may be today, and thats because of the wests idea of the sovereignty of the individual and capitalism. Case in point for your attempted exception to the rule: The Sack or Damascus 1400 AD.
[+]arendt1-9 points-8 points-7 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
That’s a pretty obscure argument, but whatever
[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Okay let me make it slightly more specific. You know about people suffering in Syria. Your knowledge is a biproduct of capitalism, usless you have direct first person witness of that suffering and were able to somehow leave. Your willingness to help those people, and the willingness of other people to help those people, makes the possibility for a better future than their present suffering which is not nothing.
So even if the suffering on the most basic of levels, at a neurological transmitter level, is objectively JUST as bad as it has ever been, the definitive possibility of it being better as a biproduct of someone knowing about their situation who wants to help them make it better, makes their situation abstractly better than their ancestors who did not have the possibility of an improved future because the knowledge of the suffering of their situation was not wide spread. Because the technology to drive that knowledge had not been invented. Im talking abour cameras and the internet and all the things that were used to help you become aware of their situation. If it were not for capitalism then those things would not exist, and those people on a neurochemical level would be going through just as much sufferring but without any hope at it ending. That is directly how capitalism has helped your syrian neighbors.
[+]arendt1-10 points-9 points-8 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
So what does all that have to do with the issue of power ?
[–]WirelessCharger6660 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Middle East is not much better than Africa, you ate sand 100 years ago, you will eat it again in 100 years when world stops needing gas... We are comparing civilized and uncivilized world here, and we all know where I those 2 categories Middle East belongs to lol
[–]MGTOWJayJay75 points76 points77 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The very device you’re using to type your bullshit was invented and created by men. If you hate that piece of technology go throw it on the trash but think long about how it was made as you do so, good day!
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[–]l3v1athaN_31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Invention... invented by a man, built with the prior knowledge provided by men, because of an abundance of food that allowed technology to grow because of the hard work of (you guessed it!) men. You're taking the grand luxuries of modern society for granted. If I had the ability to, I'd throw people like you back into the past where you don't have these things. Swallow your pride and have some respect for the people that have made you life better.
[–]stupidonparade14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Without the tireless ingenuity of men there isn’t much need for governance anyway.
[–]Zilo880 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Without the leadership of men, rich and poor and great and small, and the path we took to get here, none of those inventions or modern comforts would exist.
Atrocities have been committed, this cannot been denied. Mistakes were made. The world is a cruel, harsh place and sometimes, cruel and harsh men are needed.
The ends do justify the means, in my opinion.
[–]LikeHarambeMemes42 points43 points44 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Aturaku26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Haha sorry about the modern world with all its conveniences. I'm sure living in a mud hut eating scraps would be much more preferable. Fuck off.
[–]arendt1-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What does what you listed have to do with power ? The war in Yemen is about power , putting kids in cages is about power . Modern conveniences are a totally different field of discussion and way off topic
[–]KosherMGTOW16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Totalitarianism exist in all countries and in various forms so I might as well enjoy my refrigerators and indoor plumbing.
[–]arendt10 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So then the post is correct for that community’s reality, in other words
[–]KosherMGTOW16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
You're presenting a false equivalency. What's happening in Yemen is a result of religious idolatry expressed through government Sharia law sprinkled with a bit of generational inbreeding and incest over the course of centuries. You will also be surprised at how much power women actually have in Muslim countries, and how typically they're the ones that are keeping status quo. All the scaremongering about how women are treated in Muslim countries hide the fact that a lot of these women send their sons to die and psychologically torture or threaten with disowning them if they do not comply.
[–]arendt1-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What’s happening in Yemen is s direct result of the country attempting to move away from Saudi control and getting bombed for it. Are you one of trump’s Saudi apologists? Only a fanatic will send their child die - having lived in two Muslim countries what you said is false
[–]PanderjitSingh_k2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your pal Clinton wrote the cage policy and your buddy Hussein Obama happily kept those cages full for 8 years. Did you complain about it then? No because the TV didn’t tell you to complain.
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[–]DatBoi78086523 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you really hate this world just go live in the jungle somewhere. You will regret it if you get hungry or sick.
[–]PM_Me-Thigh_Highs2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great! Then move to the country in the picture so you can benefit the prosperous lifestyle they've generated.
[–]panzerbier3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sure there were many matriarchies in human history. All of them were completely unviable, as demonstrated by the fact that none of them survive to this day.
Male governance might have problems, but it is the only form of governance that works at all.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah you’ve failed yourself.
[–]yash_blue1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The fuck are you on about? This is the first time in history that transition of power from one person to the next has been this peaceful(because of the ideas of men who you effectively described as useless), that peacefulness and stable environment is why you are living in the most prosperous country in the history of humanity which also happen to be the land which has birthed multiple technological revolutions(another result of the stability I was talking about) one of which you are living in right now and that is how you talk about it? If nothing else it proves the state of our education system is bad if dumb people like you are churned out of there
[–]Atton_Risk167 points168 points169 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
A man's power doesn't come from women it comes from within.
[–]nsqrd64 points65 points66 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
And being naturally more muscular
[–]PleaseCallMeTomato48 points49 points50 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
and being able to get more sweet gains from the hard physical activities
[–]roy2828234 points35 points36 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And being less emotional,more logical and more intelligent.
[–]DeadShot915 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This type of thinking is why we need more girls in STEM /s
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
[–]panzerbier15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Female upper body strength is roughly 50% of male, lower body strength is 66% of male (I read a study about it). That means that your average soyboy who never saw the inside of a gym is roughly as strong as a well-trained female. A well-trained male against your average Instagram thot? Just lol. There's no matriarchy if we don't explicitly allow it.
[–]tomtomtomo2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Body strength is everything!
[–]Atton_Risk11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is just the surface.
[–]Asperger_Mgtow129 points130 points131 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Problem is we don't need to be given it because we can fight it. Males are native fighters..
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[–]VadeRetroLupa59 points60 points61 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m the captain now
[–]GoneMYway10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I said this after reading ""we're in power now."" before I even read your comment
[–]bcwills15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I laughed so hard at that. You’re right though
[–]brockbridges54014 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This.
American blacks are a Matriarchy. It's a joke when they go out with guns, try and scare all the other races, and then go home and their women beat the shit out of them.
[–]rkelly1110 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate to say it but it the black community is a matriarchy
[–]panzerbier8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sure that's exactly what the "matriarchs" of this village are fantasizing about. Strong men showing them who's boss. Once the non-cucked men of the neighboring tribe come over and give them a good powerful dicking down, the matriarchy is over.
Exactly like how our cucked Western democracies are bending over for that sweet Chadullah migrant dick.
[–]Aturaku40 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I bet a lot of men left that village, wanted revenge, realised how easy life was without women, and just never came back.
Sounds familiar.
[–]Pimozv5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Matriarchy is a thing though. It suppresses men's physical and intellectual superiority through social constructs and moral values taught to children.
It manages to overcome patriarchy from times to times. It currently is doing it in the western world and it's the very reason this sub exists.
Just as men are capable of taming animals vastly stronger than them, women sometimes manage to tame men.
[–]panzerbier1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're right, but matriarchy is also inherently unstable. That's why there are zero historically matriarchal societies surviving today. Only the present day's material abundance and nihilism makes it possible for Western societies to become matriarchies, and as soon as these conditions cease, this vile feminization will also cease.
Or maybe it will just cease spontaneously, through enough individuals (both men and women) realizing that they've been lied to. We're on the right side of history here.
[–]Pimozv1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, the thing about matriarchy is that it sucks during war. And very few societies have avoided war for long periods.
And there is OP's point : the essence of human creativity comes from men. A matriarchy suppresses that and as such it suppresses its development potential.
[–]panzerbier2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope it will be possible to end the current trend towards matriarchy without an all-out war. But I'm afraid we'll need some kind of crisis.
[–][deleted] 125 points126 points127 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I don’t understand the concept of people saying “women giving men power” or “allowing men to do things”. It doesn’t work like that. Its actually men allowing women to have power that women have no ability to enforce of their own.
[–]Docbear6438 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A perfect example of a gynocentric society is it not ? We are so deluded by the illusion of female superiority that people deny both male accomplishments and the simple truths of male biology versus female biology.
It works perfectly well if a single mother tries to raise her son, realizes she can't control him because he is male, so they drug him to turn him into a more appropriate agreeable girl. Then the brainwashing can commence thanks to the female dominated educational system.
[–]brockbridges5408 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, right. But women are too spoiled and stupid to realize that.
Women get it on the nose when they finally get into those professional jobs, and they realize that the men around them aren't going to clean up their messes.
[–]redditcomm3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Seems to me that they still get pampered in jobs.
[–]tomtomtomo0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pampered with sexual harassment. Lucky.
[–]jamesB157-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women do in numbers when they don’t want to be subjected to male violence- most is domestic by men to women not the other way around. Sometimes some serious nonsense on here. Fact stay facts.
[–]RealBiggly0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit, most domestic violence is initiated by women, and they are by far the most violent with kids. The most violent relationships are lesbian.
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[–]Senip6959 points60 points61 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Isn’t this the village of dipshits that even at the point of living in their own filth STILL have men looking after them and doing work they can’t do.
To any women here who are delusional enough to believe you’re oppressed by men and not yourself..... go for it, push for segregation- I will absolutely move to a country of just men and leave you to your “freedom”. I’m fact I’m very interested to see how quickly the land of men becomes a real utopia
[–]joylover712 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Problem is that women would most likely develop spies and sabotage men
[–]johnDAGOAT7217 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
problem is the fucking simps who need muh women for sax
[–]panzerbier5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like any random group of men, an entirely male country would rapidly develop a shared identity and a stable hierarchy with well-defined rules. We'd have a working society within months.
Like any random group of women, an entirely female country would rapidly devolve into quarreling, bickering splinter groups. We'd probably have to send in peacekeepers to keep them from massacring each other, or from starving outright as they couldn't get jack shit done.
[–]TheBrokenSigil2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i am from a rural farming area and i have to admit we have some women here that are just crazy good at growing crops and farm management. as long as the other women don't get in the way i don't think they would starve. assuming that we still have modern tech, power tools and combustion engines. also assuming that the infighting does not involve them.
i am not sure how well they would do in an all female state because other women tend to shun them so they mostly socialize with males.
[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat43 points44 points45 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, this choice has obviously gotten HER culture far.
Also, you don't give power to men. They take it.
The fact that they didn't means they didn't want it. And looking at her culture, who can blame them?
[–]jp_mra3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is projecting.
[–]KarosGraveyard36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, just look at the utopia she’s living in!
Mud huts and diarrhea soufflés for lunch and dinner. Aint that a doozy.
[–]SnapKreckelPop4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i’ve never seen “soufflés” written out before but it’s really satisfying. diarrhea soufflés 😂😂
[–]DangZagnut19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Italians are to blame?
They probably have sickle cell, so the malaria problems is abated for now. Are these the same people that walk 6km a day because they haven't figures out how to solve that yet?
[–]AllTiedUpRN5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't think that that's fair. My daily jogging is about 6 kilometers but that's because losing weight is tough.
[–]DangZagnut20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm going out on a limb and say I don't think they need to lose any more weight.
[–]bugattikid20123 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Careful, that's a really thick limb you're on.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you give women power, absolutely no progress will be made
[–]Aturaku20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh come on, I'm sure there's thousands of genders that need to be invented.
[–]Kornstar046 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah bigot /s
[–]MGTOWPOLITICS15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
WUZ
[–]OhNoBearIsDriving16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kweenz
[–]VadeRetroLupa10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
KANGZ
[–]VideoramaYT14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
N shit
[–]Disposable__Male16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But look at how many fuckin chains she got!
[–]Slushierpuppet13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bitch looking like Mr.T from the A-team.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In a way she's not wrong, the men would spoil it with riches.
[–]TheBrokenSigil1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
under rated comment right here.
[–]tacticalinfernape8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"we dont give men power" ... this is the power men have given them in the first place . robbing men of their powers ?
[–]Involution885 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meh. Matriarchal societies tend to disintegrate on their own.
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To be fair Facebook is absolutely terrible lmao.
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Yeah I get what you are saying I’m just joking because I personally hate Facebook
[–]squiddy_s550gt5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, she looks well fed😂
[–]brockbridges5403 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
The whole problem with American blacks is that they never shook off the Matriarchy. Now they're demanding reparations for slavery, after generations of not doing anything with all the free government housing, food, education, selective hiring, business programs, and everything else they got to bring then up to the 21st Century.
That's the problem with the Matriarchy.
[–]them1lfman10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
That’s being selective. It’s not all black people. I’m black and fairly successful. At 24 I am in the top 90% of earners in my age bracket. I think a lot of the difference is I grew up with a dad, and My parents are from the West Indies, which is becoming to grow more cucked, but is far less matriarchal then America right now.
I think running around asking for reparations is dumb as shit, as do many other black peoples I know. I do not associate with the kind of narcissistic assholes who expect to be given something. This is America, the whole point of this country is that if you are willing to work hard, you can make anything of yourself. That’s freedom.
At first I used to think you guys were bitching about the privilege given to POC and women and about how you seem to be ‘punished’ for white male privilege. But, even though I may disagree with someone I still listen to what they are saying and their reasoning.
The more I listened I realized that you guys are right. It’s like woman are trying to retroactively punish the white male for things his ancestors did decades or centuries ago, even though right now in this day and age, at least in America everybody is better off than anyone has been at any other time in humanity. This is largely due to innovations and protections put in place by men, a majority of whom were white.
All this and men, especially white men are treated like the devil at times. They talk down to you about white male privilege while everyone else is given certain advantages to ‘catch up’.
I put myself through college. I didn’t do it by getting special privileges. I worked hard in school so that I could earn scholarships, and through undergrad I’ve worked 2 or 3 jobs at the same time to get tuition paid. The only advantage the white guys had over me was that their parents might have had enough money to send them to school without having to work or take out loans. That isn’t something they should be blamed for. At the same time, there were plenty of white dudes who were on every shift I was, worked just as hard or harder, and at the end of the day we would chill and play COD
[–]them1lfman4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sorry for the long post, but all I’m saying is white men and black men shouldn’t be fighting against each other. That’s women shit, and a tool they used to weaken men as a whole and break as apart.
Put any group of men of any color in a room with some beers, and I guarantee they’re all bros within the hour. The only time we get in conflict with each other is when a woman is involved. Anytime there’s a fight at the club, you can bet it was somehow over a woman.
Yeah you guys might be mad about black men and think they waste opportunities or largely turn to crime, but think about this:
Since slavery men were separated from the family and sent to a different plantation, leading to whole generations of black men raised by single moms. Slavery is wrong, but if you do practice slavery you’re going to be smart about it, the men then might have been morally grey, but they were not dumb. If you’re going to own slave, lesson the chance of a revolt by selectively breeding physically superior soy boys raised by single mothers so they won’t revolt.
People try to paint a picture of the dumb redkneck southerners, but southern folk are sharp. They may not be political but they are practical.
[–]them1lfman5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is audio of Nixon talking in a secret cabinet meeting about pacifying the blacks by flooding drugs into the community, then arresting black men.
This wasn’t done just to make drug addicts, but mainly to take the father out of the family, again boys raised by single mothers. You all know how that can go.
As far as hypergamy, and being raised by single mothers, blacks have a head start on white people. It’s happening more and more now for white people too, with the rise of feminism leading to higher divorce rates.
Now you guys are starting to see how men are treated when the woman has all the power in the relationship. Black women in America have been weaponizing the law over black men for years, and taking their children away from them for years. And any woman of any color could say a black man assaulted her or raped her and she would be instantly believed.
You don’t believe me, look it up. The majority of cases where a woman completely makes up an assault or rape and gets found out, she always always said a mean looking black male assaulted her.
Now that ‘the future is female’ it’s happening to all men. We shouldn’t be pointing fingers at each other but empathize (because we are men and we can do that). We should come together to help inform other men who still are caught playing women’s game so that they aren’t divorce raped like so many others here have.
[–]jamesB1570 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A woman at work told me she’s been raped 4 times never reported it. She’s still trying to find a nice guy though. Told me about this: https://mankindprojectuki.org/purpose-statement
[–]redditcomm4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How much money you make is not a proof of success, it's proof of societal/niche validation, not merit or how good you are.
You might still be successful in a real sense, but talking in absolutes and bragging this way, does not make you sound accomplished or wise. Well, that would be hard at your age anyways.
Just pointing out that you have a similar mindset to social media celebrities. That mindset is not desirable, and it makes you dependent on external validation.
We don't need to replace one self-entitled smugness with another one. Let's improve ourselves and our characters.
[–]them1lfman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wasn’t trying to sound smug or brag about how much I make. I mentioned my parents are from another culture, I went to high school in the islands (think American West Indies) and it was a 3rd world country. We didn’t have running water, and there were only two channels on t.v. It’s not about how much money I make, but it was to highlight that I have gained ‘success’ as a black man because I was willing to work for it and to show that all black people are not lazy, dependent wastes of space.
I agree with what you said, the part about being compared to social media celebrities really stung, I can’t stand them! I just watched a ‘news’ report about an entitled social media whore crying about how ‘trolls’ kept reporting her instagram and got it deleted. In her words, she’s worthless and has no marketable skills period, can’t go to school because she has student debt. (I’d say more but I’m already off topic)
The reason I mentioned those details, because on TRP and MGTOW there are certain members who talk down blacks or give the impression that all blacks are criminals or dependent on government assistance programs. As a black member who participated in these communities it can hurt to be singled out as inferior by other users who are supposed to be supportive. Especially since those other members should know that black households have been subjected to the abuse of the matriarch for along time, even before the law started catering to women.
I upvoted btw, because I do believe men should check each other if that’s in their best interests. I see how what I said could come across as smug, and I know you weren’t checking me maliciously, so I appreciate it.
[–]CeleritySteam2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A black person with a father is in the highest 10%. Granted a white person with a father at the same age is highest 20% so that's not far behind. Without the father you get matriarchy because who else is left?
[–]them1lfman1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly! That’s the point I was trying to make. I feel sorry for all those men raised by single mothers who end up turning to crime or relying on the government.
My culture used to hold women accountable and not bend to lgbt demands, but the US government has interfered directly in our governance process and even managed to recently get a women elected. You can imagine things have gone south since then.
[–]CeleritySteam0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the fate of most countries in the world and the few who aren't are demonized. Really makes you think just how bad are Iran or NK etc really?
The part I find hilarious is when tradcucks focus on quantity over quality of children. Then those children are stolen and raised by a single mother and the best case scenario is they just check out of society beyond the bare minimum requirement. Non serviam.
The more likely scenario is as you describe. Making MUH WHITE BABIES who will behave in exactly the same manner as those negative racial stereotypes.
[–]arendt11 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s interesting how many people here equate power with : lifestyle , inventions and civilization. Very interesting. Also it’s interesting to see that for all its faults people defend the system even while claiming it’s unfair
[–]Helikzhan1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clearly women are genetically predisposed to sociopathic behavior and there is little reason to doubt it as every Matriarchal society IS a shit hole. A society run by sociopaths isn't a society at all.
[–]estoella1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As if patriarchy doesn't abuse men! I'm not from the US. Patriarchy burdens too much responsibility to men in my country. For example, it tells woman to be a housewife and man to work. Some wicked and smart women use this opportunity overwhelmingly.
[–]AeternusDoleo1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Proud matriarchy... Pre-industrial civilization. You're not making a good case for a prosperous society under a matriarchy.
[–]lastlaugh1000 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol
[–]AcquireCurrencyMOB0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even in the state their in, they project
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women are only as strong as men allowing them to.
[–]jamesB1571 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There was a post here about wanting a woman to lean on. When men are able to take care of themselves there’s no need for that and if in a relationship they shouldn’t treat a woman like a mother. Women don’t want a kid they didn’t birth just like you don’t want to have to change her nappy emotionally every day. If she does take care of you with nurture instinct though and you love it say so and feed her back emotionally as that’s the deal. Give and take equally (unless you made a bad choice of woman). I understand if some people totally fed up dating (men and women) but this site seems to blame all women and it isn’t all of them. Singledom is a valid choice until a wonderful person comes along and it doesn’t have to come with hatred (misogyny or misandry).
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wanting a mother surrogate is ridiculously archaic and dates from a time when women could actually run a household
[–]mikeymikeymikey19680 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The guys there are actually in charge. They just have lots of fun letting the women think they're in charge.
[–]brockbridges5400 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thucydides wrote that in 600bc the Scythians hunted "troglodytes" in Africa. And after all these years the Africans haven't evolved or progressed.
Every Matriarchal society got wiped out because they fell into human sacrifices, cannibalism, and constant war on their neighbors. That whole continent will never change because the men are too weak to contradict the women.
[–]jamesB1571 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think humans are too weak to collaborate full stop. We’re collectively absolute idiots. Look what we do to our planet. Hilarious when people believe conspiracy theories when actually all humans do is disagree about everything!!
[–]Jesse_James970 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Every comment on here is literally a golden truth bombshell. And i love it, but i dont have time to upvote every single one
[–]SocialCupcake0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Forget rice bags food aid and money that is spent on AK47S instead of hospitals, send their young men and women airdrop of smartphones preloaded with MGTOW videos.
Watch the warfare fade. It'd give those strong women a chance to raise kids AND be a CEO of....whatever it is they do there.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m in a society run by men and I’m sitting here in my comfy bed laughing about this post of you sipping on some nice Ramen. Hmmm.
Since the dawn of Man, Man had power over women. That wasn’t sexism or patriarchy or whatever you want to fucking call it, that was a fact of life and of nature. Thousands of years later here we are. The women never stole this power, Men gave it to them. And we now live in a society where it is socially unacceptable to take it back or even talk about taking it back. And you know who allowed this societal change to happen? Men. Not women. Everything feminists have to brag about was given to them by stupid Men.
[–]FutureIsManAndRobot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And that's why you live in a mud hut and I live in a fully equipped villa with 7 bedrooms, 5 bathrooms, central air conditioning, smart home system, private elevator, botanical garden, multiple vehicles garage, gaming room, cinema room, swimming pool and jacuzzi.
You can't get modern society when men don't have any incentive to build modern society.
[–]Blackphish880 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Patriarchy = a better place for all. Matriarchy = a better place for one woman and her spawn.
[–]DiabolicAvenger0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep.....
[–]sam123cherif0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And I love me some good pizza
[–]Soullfester0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This will be the end of Wakanda.
[–]jei64-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm all for mgtow, but this doesnt make any sense. There are plenty of Male-led communities that are doing just as poorly.
[–]AncapGhxst-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No the reason is low average IQ
[–]monkensteinxstupido4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't you mean the same 10 memes posted twice in the same day?
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[–]CursingWhileNursing15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Hm, I see your point, but I am not convinced. Maybe because I am not exactly sure if you speak only about Africa or about the western world as well.
See, I think a huge part of the problems Africa has come from western stupidity and arrogance in the guise of goodwill. We watch african states burn and fall to famine as a result of stupidity, laziness and feuds between tribes that are hundrets of years old. And instead of stepping away, let them figure out their own shit and grow up, what does the western world do? We support it. "We are the wooorld..." my ass.
As a result, several things happened. First, we directly fuel wars and conflicts, because most of the money or the food we send lands directly in the accounts and in the warehouses of local warlords or corrupt politicians, thus making the wars go on.
Second, we teach them dependence. Oh, sure, let's fuck our countries up, because if we and our 27 kids starve, whitey will come and deliver food and clothes.
The lack of independence and the will for progress is incredible. A colleague of mine came from Ghana to study here and he decided to stay, because, quote "Hell, I am more german then ghanaian. Because I have a work ethic and the will to improve myself and my life." What he told me about Ghana, one of the more educated and successful states in Africa, was hard to believe; but it explains a lot. People there have a slacker and leecher mentality, they only work if they have to and as soon as someone actually is hard working and becomes successful, it is expected that he lets everyone leech from him. Otherwise, violence is to be expected.
It is expected that the population of Africa will double in the next 30 years. The results will be ugly for all of us, even more so since Merkel gave the signal that sure, fuck your countries up, you can come to us. We even screw our own population over for your poor, poor immigrants. And now a lot of them is here and expects exactly what they've expected from us when they were still in their countries. Feed us, house us, give us free shit or otherwise we will fuck this place up as well. Gratefulness? Lol.
And who is the driving force behind this western stupidity? Women as well. For them, it is all about the feelz. Fuck logic and necessity. It is african stupidity, both male and female, which brought Africa into this mess and it is mainly female western stupidity that helps exaggerating this situation.
[–]Ladidadi693 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy singlehandedly figured out the root cause of Africa's problems in a couple of sentences. Thanks, white savior.
[+]arendt1-8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
If you want to go into the roots of the problems in Africa we can start at European colonial imperialism and stealing millions Africans to put in slave ships . They’ve had a shitkicking ever since the explorers
[–]lucajones888 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It didn’t make things better certainly but there were many earlier shit kickings like - most of the continent having no resources, shit land for farming and being slaves for literally any civilisation that found and could transport them since forever.
‘Muh Colonialism’ is tiresome as Africa was a shithole long before that.
[–]them1lfman-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually arendt is right here. Western Africa countries had the richest lands in the worlds based on resources. Some African countries are still extremely wealthy based on natural resources. People talk about Africa like it’s a country, but it’s not it’s a continent. Some countries do better than others. Some have abundant mineral or oil resources. Some are heavily forested with lots of produce.
[+]arendt1-6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Africa was rich in resources- otherwise britain , Belgium, Netherlands etc , wouldn’t have got rich off them. The IMF and world bank policies in the 70’s and 80’s can be added to that dumpster fire
[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The problem is perspective. The second law of thermodynamics or entropy states that things fall apart when left alone. Its not that European colonialism put Africa into chaos its that chaos is the state of nature (like seriously look at it, shits brutal and nasty and can be over for anything in the snap of fingers) and Europe dragged itself out of the chaos but left behind many people. The Europeans didn't put Africa into chaos and poverty with colonialism - thats the natural state.
Also if you think there were no problems in Africa until the big bad Europeans came to take Africans away as slaves, I must ask why you don't view it as a problem that Africans were enslaving each other. The problem is the inherent practice of slavery itself NOT the origin of birth of the people committing it upon others.
[–]them1lfman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree but not completely. Yes, there was slavery before, but again every civilization till now has pretty much utilized slavery. It might be horribly immoral now, but in other times it made sense. You go to war with a different country or tribe and take their spoils. You doing bring their woman and children back and treat them like esteemed guests. They were made into slaves or servants, whatever you want to call it.
Rome did it. The Greeks did it. The Assyrians. Egyptians. Africans (yes, I know Egyptians are African) the Vikings did it. Anglo-Saxons did it.
Slavery is not uniquely African.
[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didn't mean to imply it was, not in the slightest bit. I was just saying basically the same thing, except saying slavery wasnt European. I was also trying to say interracial-slavery is not more of a problem than the problem of slavery itself (which is a huge moral problem, I'm not discrediting that either).
The way I phrased it might have caused some confusion, my apologies (although I don't think you're the person I replied to, far too articulate) .
[–]them1lfman1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha no I’m not. And to your point, I do think the left and feminists have tried to weaponize slavery against white men.
“Reeee slavery!” “White men are evilll reparations!”
I’m sitting inside watching Netflix, and an ad for a new Netflix original called special literally just ended with the words
‘Straight white men are cancelled’
I shit you not.
[–]CursingWhileNursing1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure. Then let's talk about most slaves being sold to european slavers directly by black, african warlords.
Also, you can't blame everything on colonialism. The conflict between Hutu and Tutsie in Rwanda for instance is something that was existent for centuries. And it were Hutu who decided to pick up machetes and hammers and murder hundrets of thousands of the people they've lived with for years in a couple of days. No white man forced them to do this.
Also, what is with the positive effects of colonialism? Oh, they were there... the british for instance got rid of the thousand year old custom in India to burn the living wifes along with their dead husbands. I hear no one complaining about that. I also hear no one complain about colonialists actually getting rid of slave markets. And funny enough, a lot of countries in Africa belong to the places in the world that still have a thriving slave market.
And colonialism is over for quite some time now. Don't you think a minimum of self-responsibility should apply for those people as well?
[–]Ladidadi690 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Male or female leadership if leaders don't have the interest of the people at heart, it's bound to be a shit show (or a shit hole in this case)
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