Question for the subreddit

Alocaco · 2018-08-29T01:42:42+00:00

All relationships are toxic.

As for the opinion a person had about women... that's for the individual to decide.

We're not a movement, we have no agenda. we just want to be left alone.

teslaistheshit · 2018-08-29T01:58:55+00:00

Change the law first. Call it a "Married Man's Bill of Rights" if you want.

Separate property rights and debts to each person as an individual during and after marriage.
Guarantee 50/50 custody of children to every father after divorce.
Restrict child support payments, if any, to the actual basic needs of the children, not an automatic percentage of the father's income. Receipts proving money was actually spent on the children (like a military travel expense voucher) required each month before the next month's payment due. Deduct any money wasted on hairdos and handbags from the next month's payment.
Ban alimony. If you've been living off your spouse for months or years and divorce happens, that's on you. Say "thank you" and move on. Walmart is always hiring, ex-Mrs. Dentist Wife.

Still would not protect men from false domestic violence accusations though. That's caused by a judicial system bias toward women, nothing you can fix with one law.

So if you think all of the above is bullshit OP, and you're male and thinking about getting married, you should probably also experiment with krokodil. What could go wrong?

Hypogamy · 2018-08-29T01:52:32+00:00

Hypergamy: If she is willing to marry you it means you could do better.

404NotFound0808 · 2018-08-29T01:41:05+00:00

It is not worth it.

SaltTax · 2018-08-29T02:14:12+00:00

Willingly surrender all your human rights

No.

gone_my_way · 2018-08-29T01:57:30+00:00

Never, it's a contract with the government.

anongogogo · 2018-08-29T02:43:30+00:00

Marriage in 2018? Are you nuts?

TakeYourDailyDose · 2018-08-29T01:55:24+00:00

For sex and companionship? Absolutely not. The companionship is shallow and you can have more varied, interesting sex with (hopefully) no strings attached without too much trouble now. Even paying an escort is cheaper and less risky.

To have children? Debatable, but I'd still argue against it. Statistically, the odds of you getting to actually be a father figure and raise your child (or children) for the entirety of their development are less than 50%. Almost all guys go into marriage assuming they found "the one", and that everything will work out, but the divorce rate is still slowly climbing. I realize technology like artificial wombs may be off-putting and waiting 5-10 years isn't for everyone, but there's always the option of a surrogate mother for those that want a safer genetic legacy.

EdWilkinson · 2018-08-29T02:58:49+00:00

Come on, folks.

First off, many people forget that marriage is all about having kids. Don't want to have kids, don't marry. Simple as that. The marriage is a framework for the law to figure out what happens to the kids if the relationship dissolves.

Second, let's not exaggerate. There are genuine women out there, and much like genuine men, they are few and far apart. Realistically I think 1 in 1000 women is worth being with; in North America, perhaps 1 in 3000 or so.

davisyoung · 2018-08-29T04:08:22+00:00

You’re asking two different, though related, things. One is about women and the other is about marriage. I personally believe that not all women are worth avoiding, but you just can’t know which one. And if you choose wrong, marriage as it is set up in Western culture is geared towards destroying the man. So as it is, no, marriage can never be worthwhile and women in that framework are best to be avoided.

Mgtow_Truck · 2018-08-29T01:47:37+00:00

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attongirdeaux · 2018-08-29T06:33:06+00:00

I had a 4 page list of what I wanted. No compromise. I met someone who fulfilled that list and then some. Example of what was on it. 1) Doesnt drink and doesnt want to 2) Legitimately plays video games. She mentioned hers first before I even mentioned video games at all 3) Not a whore. She was a virgin when we met. 4) Same religious/spiritual views. 5) Job and goal oriented. She is a teacher and wants to advance. 6) Stable financially. She had more money saved and invested than I do, but I earn more so it evens out. 7) wants to have 1-2 children and no more. Her parents never divorced, have a healthy relationship, and were virgins when they got married. Im in my 30s and she is 28 and has been picky about dating only 2 and she ended it when they had no career goals. I found my unicorn. However, I do accept and realize that it could totally hit the fan and I can get extremely fucked over. I probably get called blue pilled, but whats life if you dont take calculated risks.

MenGoingTOWin · 2018-08-29T01:45:58+00:00

hahahaha come on bro. Lurk for at least a couple hours before you post.

What happened to common internet decency?

Misinformed_Lobster · 2018-08-29T01:55:22+00:00

I'd rather die a virgin than go through a divorce and lose half of my hard earned assets and God forbid that I ever get put on child support. But maybe that's just me.

vega-mgtow · 2018-08-29T05:41:31+00:00

Anyone knows how to reset a CuckOMeter2000?

Mine has its needle stuck on "UberCuck Troll Warning", after visiting this post.

Red_pilledman · 2018-08-29T01:40:46+00:00

Being a tradcuck disposable male for a woman who doesn’t love you is not worthwhile and Yes AWALT.

wildfireboat · 2018-08-29T03:16:09+00:00

I'll reconsider marriage when it goes back to being a bond between two people.

Marriage is now between two people OVERSEEN BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IF YOU MARRY WITHOUT A LICENSE WE'LL FUCKING SEND YOU TO JAIL AND IF YOU DIVORCE WE'LL FUCKING TAKE YOUR LIFE'S PROPERTY AND GIVE IT TO THE WOMAN YOU FUCKING OPPRESSIVE MALE AND...

Excuse me! Woah... had the coughs there...

As I was saying, there seems to be an extra layer to marriage that doesn't belong, but I can't quite put my finger on it...

2MetresAbove · 2018-08-29T04:00:41+00:00

Before Sexual Revolution, when principles matteres and traditional model of marriage and family was prese it, it was worthwile. Not any more.

redditloginfail · 2018-08-29T01:44:45+00:00

Today, no. It's so unlikely i couldn't in any way recommend it.

Solstus22 · 2018-08-29T04:05:40+00:00

After the truth, sadly no.

Problem is the bad women will act like the good women in order to avoid being known as the 'bad women'.

VisualRemix · 2018-08-29T06:18:49+00:00

Marriage will never be the same as long as we have free information over the internet.

In the past, crimes were easier to get away with because nobody could reliably tell their story.

Now we know what happens almost anywhere on the planet and a person you've never met is just a click away.

coldire101 · 2018-08-29T08:11:12+00:00

Why marriage? Why not just date? Marriage will give you NOTHING. There is no benefit to men at all. Your just signing away your house and finances to her. Don’t do it.

Ever seen a billionaire? They all have perfect 10 girlfriends but no wife.

Walker501_S · 2018-08-29T09:26:46+00:00

NO. Because female nature.

mgtow-zen · 2018-08-29T14:38:43+00:00

It's a question of the game, not the women.

There are lots of truly nice, wonderful, beautiful and kind women. Unfortunately, the game kind of requires they wear a "bitch costume" while playing it, and we mistake the costume for them.

Marriage isn't worth it. But the women themselves are. I hope that made sense.

SmamelessMe · 2018-08-29T19:57:09+00:00

From side-bar:

We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.

This means you need to make your own decisions. You've come to the right place to see the ugly, dangerous side of marriage and children. But nobody here can decide for you if or how you should marry or have children.

Title	Question for the subreddit
Author	LaxBro1617
Upvotes	22
Comments	35
Date	August 29, 2018 1:39 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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