The west in a nutshell

ijnenak · 2020-01-17T12:15:17+00:00

Islam was right about women

lukesoad · 2020-01-17T10:48:27+00:00

That's a poor argument. I'm not saying women should hypersexualise themselves but freedom is having that choice. If somebody is forced to wear a certain item of clothing in public, how is that anything other than oppression?

thelookoutbelow · 2020-01-17T12:18:19+00:00

I'll concede this point, but only to an extent.

There's not quite the same amount of coercion into baring skin. It comes close sometimes tho

FewActinomycetaceae0 · 2020-01-17T13:54:51+00:00

Doesn't matter, muslim woman are the same, if you ever fly in/out of saudia arabia, you can see with you own eyes, flying out of saudi they will take of the burqa and are wearing mini skirts underneath and dressed to the nine's the younger ones, its all the same. This is only in the nogo zones, but muslims don't understand, as they expand the zone, the center implodes. This is why once france goes even half muslim, they will just start dressing same as the modern french woman since they wont fear the non-muslim threat, look at the modern parts of Turkey, in 700 years, they wiped out (killed/converted) all the christians and now are 99% muslim, go see how they dress.

2020-01-17T09:25:26+00:00

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DickMartin · 2020-01-17T14:38:22+00:00

Why blame the fashion industry, when girls would figure it out without any “training”?

2020-01-17T09:52:21+00:00

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Ragmer · 2020-01-17T17:39:03+00:00

Wait, why the hell do we care if women are held to sexual standards? We are too. Gotta be 6’ tall, make 6 figures, have a 6 pack etc. If anything Islam forces hyper competition with its men. You end up with wealthy guys having many wives while most average guys have no hope of competing at all. Its all blue pilled gynocentrism done in different ways. Frankly I’m not concerned if women have it better or worse in the west or under islam. I am concerned that men are in such bad shape and are killing themselves at alarming rates all around the world. Do not value yourselves by the standards of women, either liberal or conservative. Judge yourself by who you once were and always strive to be better. That’s what matters.

RedPillMissionary · 2020-01-17T16:05:40+00:00

Nah... this person isn’t intellectual enough to see the difference between legislation and advertising.

Haywood_Jablomie42 · 2020-01-17T17:23:44+00:00

So this guy is pretending that looks don't matter? Yeah, he's desperate as hell and trying to get a land whale to fuck him.

pavlikmmm · 2020-01-17T18:41:36+00:00

Both approaches are wrong. Cmon muslims treatment of women is wrong on a humanitarian level. Owers sexualization is wrong on a moral one

Pumarealjaeger · 2020-01-17T20:11:49+00:00

The human species contradicts itself endlessly

CorrectObject · 2020-01-17T20:17:27+00:00

A big reason the U.S. has interest in the middle east is to disrupt their culture and destroy individual freedom. Those tribes out there were self sufficient, didn't need huge corporations, big medical, massive government regulation, bankers, or constant surveillance. They had their land, their women, and families. They were just fine.

hakoonamatata9 · 2020-01-17T20:52:14+00:00

Good luck explaining this to a fucking feminist. Lmao. You think they have the logical acumen required to understand what point you are trying to make?

Bob_Bobbingtonn · 2020-01-17T22:01:23+00:00

Just because one is terrible, doesn't add credence to the other... they are both terrible!

2020-01-18T09:59:33+00:00

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strainer123 · 2020-01-17T17:24:18+00:00

Because women in Islam are coerced, by laws, and the threat of rape sometimes, for covering up, Islam apologists are just so full of shit it makes me nauseous.

BlasphemousMGTOW · 2020-01-17T17:39:54+00:00

Bottom line is choice.

Tyler_Golemon · 2020-01-17T19:43:12+00:00

The more I learn about MGTOW and women’s nature the more I start to understand Islam. I don’t think their rules should be enforced by government, but if it’s simply culturally enforced it is better than what we have now. That being said I don’t like demographic change in the west, but we can still learn from other cultures.

Kyxrn · 2020-01-18T03:48:28+00:00

I’ve went to Saudi Arabia and asked my redpilled Saudi friend, there are actually girls who support MGTOW, in the sense that women shouldn’t be the ones taking control and avoid cheating by any means possible, not call any man gay or tell him to get therapy, accept defeat and everything a 99% MGTOW dreams of, but you have to find that kind of gem. It’s not very hard, it’s just uncommon. However, they’re starting to go bluepill nowadays which is saddening.

anubhav23 · 2020-01-18T05:41:56+00:00

Seriously man. Good post. Never thought about it like that.

2020-01-17T21:43:51+00:00

But... neither of those is oppression.

SocialAssassin4Hire · 2020-01-17T13:22:02+00:00

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Title	The west in a nutshell
Author	Joseph_Memestar
Upvotes	392
Comments	85
Date	January 17, 2020 9:22 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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