This post infuriates feminists very much

swiet

May 21, 2019

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Title	This post infuriates feminists very much
Author	swiet
Upvotes	436
Comments	51
Date	May 21, 2019 8:09 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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Part 2:

1: Women prefer intact penises.

Source: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/60750.html

http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/ohara/

2: Masturbation feels better.

Source: http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

3: Circumcision significantly reduces sensitivity.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,285532,00.html

http://www.livescience.com/1624-study-circumcision-removes-sensitive-parts.html

4: Despite the reduced sensitivity, there is no change to lasting longer during sex.

Source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00070.x/abstract;jsessionid=E233A9E106A9 A6D724B4E3606446784E.d03t01

5: Cut men have a more difficult time fapping.

Source: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00070.x/abstract;jsessionid=E233A9E106A9

Which was the reason it was promoted in the USA in the first place.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/health/27-03-2006/77873-circumcision-0/

6: Circumcision increases risk of erectile dysfunctions.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14979200&dopt= Abstract|

7: If too much skin is removed in circumcision, it can make the penis smaller since the dong needs some skin to expand during an erection:

http://www.altermd.com/Penis%20and%20Scrotal%20Surgery/buried_penis.htm

http://www.drgreene.com/azguide/inconspicuous-penis

8: Circumcision does not lower the risk of AIDS.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22096758/

9: Circumcision is more hygienic. Who the fuck doesn't clean their dick? It's a three second job you do when you shower so this is not a valid argument. Women produce 10 times as much smegma as men - so it's OK to amputate an infant girls' labia lips so she doesn't have to wash them??

10: Circumcised foreskin sold to cosmetic manufacturers for profit:

http://voices.yahoo.com/human-foreskins-big-business-cosmetics-201840.html

Erectile dysfunction 4.5 times more likely to occur if you're circumcised

http://www.thewholenetwork.org/14/post/2011/08/does-circumcision-cause-erectile-dysfunction.html etc

Stanford's school of medicine list of circumcision complications (including infection, haemorraging, skin-bridging, phimosis, amputation and death):

http://newborns.stanford.edu/CircComplications.html

Cut infants get long-term changes in pain response from the trauma of being circumcised

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731

Circumcision decreases penile sensitivity

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102?dopt=Abstract

Circumcision associated with sexual difficulties

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947

Circumcision linked to alexithymia

http://www.mensstudies.com/content/2772r13175400432/?p=a7068101fbdd48819f10dd04dc1e19fb&pi=4

The exaggeration of the benefits of circumcision in regards to HIV/AIDS transmission

http://jme.bmj.com/content/36/12/798.abstract

Circumcision/HIV claims are based on insufficient evidence

http://www.4eric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MC.pdf

There is no case for the widespread implementation of circumcision as a preventative measure to stop transmission of AIDS/HIV

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2011.00761.x/full

Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977

Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847

Circumcision policy is influenced by psychosocial factors rather than alleged health benefits

http://www.circumcision.org/policy.htm

Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae

http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/

Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902

Circumcision has negligible benefit http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9091693

Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and traumahttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731

Circumcision may lead to need for increased care and medical attention in the first 3 years of life http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9393302

Circumcision linked to psychological trauma http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/

Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behavior http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10657682

CONCLUSIONS: This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population.

CONCLUSIONS:Circumcision was associated with frequent orgasm difficulties in Danish men and with a range of frequent sexual difficulties in women, notably orgasm difficulties, dyspareunia and a sense of incomplete sexual needs fulfilment.

CONCLUSION: There was a decrease in masturbatory pleasure and sexual enjoyment after circumcision, indicating that adult circumcision adversely affects sexual function in many men, possibly because of complications of the surgery and a loss of nerve endings.

CONCLUSIONS:The glans of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.

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http://file.scirp.org/Html/3-1990071_55727.htm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/20/circumcision-autism-new-study_n_6503106.html

http://www.thewholenetwork.org/ http://www.nocirc.org/ http://www.intactamerica.org/ http://circfacts.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org%2Fpdf%2Fspecialstatement.pdf&redir_token=Kvd2vANLy67GVMusGU9Pvob8kAl8MTQzMjM4MTg5OEAxNDMyMjk1NDk4 http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/pdf/specialstatement.pdf http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/cut-vs-intact-outcome-statistics.html http://circumstitions.com/ http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/circumcision-the-double-standard-of-genital-mutilation-i2-menshealth/ http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-health/circumcision-is-a-universal-horror-so-why-do-some-of-londons-most-powerful-feminists-refuse-to-save-boys-from-genital-mutilation/ http://www.avoiceformen.com/male-genital-mutilation-2/a-brief-history-of-circumcision/ http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.full.pdf+html https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/more-circumcision-myths-you-may-believe-hygiene-and-stds http://www.drmomma.org/2010/08/us-circumcision-rate-falls-to-33.html http://www.drmomma.org/2009/10/mri-studies-brain-permanently-altered.html http://www.drmomma.org/2009/10/mri-studies-brain-permanently-altered.html http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/wright1/ http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=0 http://intactnews.org/node/40/1309097685/south-african-medical-association-denounces-circumcision-infants http://intactnews.org/node/40/1309097685/south-african-medical-association-denounces-circumcision-infants http://allafrica.com/stories/201308071633.html http://www.atcc.org/products/all/CRL-2429.aspx#generalinformation http://saving-babies.blogspot.com/2011/08/dollars-sense-business-of-circumcision.html http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/ http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death-from-circumcision.html http://www.examiner.com/article/new-study-estimates-neonatal-circumcision-death-rate-higher-than-suffocation-and-auto-accidents http://www.circumstitions.com/Complic.html http://www.thewholenetwork.org/twn-news/does-circumcision-cause-erectile-dysfunction https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plasmetic.com%2Fskin%2Fskin-care-cosmetics%2Fforeskin-face-cream-from-skinmedica-promoted-by-oprah-winfrey.html&redir_token=Kvd2vANLy67GVMusGU9Pvob8kAl8MTQzMjM4MTg5OEAxNDMyMjk1NDk4 http://www.plasmetic.com/skin/skin-care-cosmetics/foreskin-face-cream-from-skinmedica-promoted-by-oprah-winfrey.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ4ZTRGT_EA&feature=share

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/05/the-foreskin-why-is-it-such-a-secret-in-north-america-3148992.html?currentSplittedPage=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Cjaaj1V50

http://notyourstocut.com/2015/03/21/theres-no-comparison-between-male-and-female-circumcision-seriously/

http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/circumcision-the-primal-cut-a-human-rights-violation/

So your sister does seem a tiny bit stubborn (just a tiny bit). Her "reasoning" basically can't be called that, there's... nothing. She doesn't even try to argue back, but I'll link as many useful sources as I can... save the foreskins :o

I'll start with her "counterarguments". "It does not hurt him." I'm not so sure...(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDuDhkiDdns)

The dorsal nerve block they sometimes use doesn't work at all, because it only numbs the dorsal nerve of the penis, and there are also nerves on the ventral side which means he will still feel pain. In this one they use "actual" anesthetic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVFFI76ff0)

This article (http://time.com/3827167/this-is-a-babys-brain-on-pain/)

So much for the pain part, I think; no one can deny that this stuff hurts. A lot. No human (especially a mother) in their right mind will want this done to their toddler. (add: Interview of a nurse on the topic) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIIhwyEe0pw)

I'm going to list everything else in no particular order, for no particular reason.

Circumcision her son could also kill him (http://www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html)

Here's one more article on this (http://www.cirp.org/library/death/)

What else is there... the argument that "girls will like his penis more" comes up pretty often. Here's the remedy to it.(http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/)

Not having a foreskin effectively makes sex bad for both of them.

Circumcision also alters the glans pretty dramatically. I don't know about you, but I absolutely prefer the intact ones. They did use sort of 'extreme' examples, but there's no need to mention that.

I guess you could also ask her if she'd be willing to have her daughters circumcised too, although that's, you know, illegal. But maybe she wants to be circumcised so her husband will like the look of her vagina more? Or to be cleaner, that's a good argument isn't it? Hell yeah it is, double standards are a fun thing. She's against female cutting? Well she should be against male cutting too. (http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/02/female-genital-mutilation-and-male-circumcision-time-to-confront-the-double-standard/)

This one is an article about the "benefits" (read: not really benefits) of circumcision. (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/more-circumcision-myths-you-may-believe-hygiene-and-stds) UTI? Antibiotics. Phimosis? Stretch. 96% of phimosis cases can be treated without surgery. I don't have the article at hand unfortunately. And there is this (http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/cuckow/)

Hygiene? Buy some bloody soap :o

This one is kind of a horror story collection (http://www.senslip.com/circumcision.html)

It's kind of rough to read/look at, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't want any of this to happen to her baby son. Again, I don't think any human in their right mind would still want it after having seen this. Here are more of them (http://www.senslip.com/circumcision-disasters.html)

There are many men who literally hate their parents for having them cut as babies. The fact that companies like Senslip and Manhood exist and sell synthetic foreskin substitutes shows that no one likes it. I personally don't know anybody who likes being cut, I only know people who are neutral about it at best.

This thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/circumcision/comments/2ugf8q/best_way_to_convince_wife_about_circumcision/)

This is also a pretty good article (https://substance.media/off-with-their-heads-46db26f0747a)

This is about everything I can think of right now. You can of course link to most of the videos/sources from the wiki (https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists/wiki) especially regarding human rights (here.) (https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/wiki/index#wiki_political_recognition_of_children.27s_body_autonomy)

http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/circumcision

Came here to say this. Get her to watch a video on you tube with the volume turned up.

About 80% of men in the world are intact.

Check out http://www.savingsons.org/ or their Facebook page Saving our Sons. Another good site:http://www.thewholenetwork.org/

She needs to learn about foreskin and those are some good resources.

Not sure where you live but the Canadian Paediatric society does not recommend infant circumcision and they say it is not medically necessary. They also have some information for intact care, which is very easy. Just wipe like a finger and do not retract.http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/circumcision

Edit to add you both should also watch Elephant in the Hospital

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceht-3xu84I

Edit again: I just realize someone else posted the same video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceht-3xu84I

http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/fleiss.html

http://www.nocirc.org/articles/fleiss2.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_SXo_oW3xc&feature=player_detailpage&list=UUTmUd2zQ6tzJoldDje4R6eQ

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