They absolutely should

SunnySomeone · 2018-10-20T17:16:08+00:00

How is that even a question

TheAsianJames · 2018-10-21T01:10:36+00:00

It for sure ruins peoples lives.

When I was in seventh grade a girl on the bus accused me of touching her private parts. I didn’t even know her or sit next to her. I’m banned from school transportation for the next 3 years.

As a gay guy it really pisses me off.

Remerez · 2018-10-20T17:23:32+00:00

There is the quote thats running around the internet I am going to paraphrase because I am lazy

If I wouldn't treat you poorly because of what you look like, why do you expect me to treat you better because of what you look like?

TheKentuckyRifleman · 2018-10-20T17:51:25+00:00

Yeah it really ruins lives. I was falsely accused of rape when i was a teenager .I was treated like an animal and then came the trial. I was found not guilty after two days of testimony. She got 6 months for perjury. I was exonerated but was already sentenced to life because even though i was found not guilty i had been accused which for most nowadays is automatic guilt. I think they should be criminally and civilly liable

Killerbeth · 2018-10-20T19:35:14+00:00

In Germany you can go for jail for that it's literally called "Rufmord" = murdering reputation.

Hyperintelligentwolf · 2018-10-20T19:18:34+00:00

Lying to law enforcement is a crime in itself called obstruction of justice, so...

Shitworldwelivein · 2018-10-20T17:27:57+00:00

To think that it was a man that asked that. It's mindblowing.

goodmod · 2018-10-20T22:19:54+00:00

Although this is a good post, its title does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested. It also makes searching impossible.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.

So please don't do it in future. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.

Doyler92 · 2018-10-21T02:54:24+00:00

If you can prove that it was deliberately and maliciously done yes.

-Rider- · 2018-10-20T18:03:07+00:00

It should be a possibility, but it would need to be exercised with caution. As the fear of being subjected to this penalty due to being unable to prove evidence might result in actual rapes not being reported. A better measure would be slightly more lenient reparation, such as prison time only being the punishment for particularly malicious cases. Also a anonymity system regarding the accused would at least help some of the issues a false accusation may bring to a victim, such as it being illegal to suspend or terminate the contracts of workers who are accused. As well as the accuser and others involved signing NDAs so that the fact that the accused is who he is isn't public knowledge. It should be "possible" to go to prison for false accusations, not mandatory.

NolanHarlow · 2018-10-20T18:03:28+00:00

Uhhh, no. They shouldn't go to jail....

They should go to Prison. And stay for much longer.

Zafriti · 2018-10-20T23:04:57+00:00

How do you show proof of it being a lie versus not being able to prove that it happened in a court of law?

RPDunkleBomb · 2018-10-20T23:02:35+00:00

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og__h · 2018-10-20T17:47:39+00:00

There should be a rule like if you falsely accuse someone of something then you get (1/n)th the time/punishment they would have done/gotten if they were infact the culprits.

sniffing_dog · 2018-10-20T18:22:44+00:00

It's a despicable act. Like killing a person but refusing to let them die. Torturous. Women should experience the same feeling, but still with the promise of returning to their old life when they get out... :/

Gordon-G · 2018-10-20T17:25:56+00:00

MarinTaranu · 2018-10-21T04:09:42+00:00

Of course not. They should go to state penitentiary, where all the felons go.

chambertlo · 2018-10-21T04:09:58+00:00

Why is this even a conversation that needs to be had? Women who lie about rape need to be in a registry similar to the sex offenders registry, and publicly shamed.

Zellnerissuper · 2018-10-21T04:15:36+00:00

If there is no consequence there is no motivation not to it again nor for other women to deploy it as a weapon.

Nude-eh · 2018-10-21T08:24:14+00:00

There is no thought needed here. Making false accusations knowingly is a crime.

njullpointer · 2018-10-21T13:33:04+00:00

you know how people can get put into jail for decades over lies? Yeah, that's why women who lie about rape should go to jail, because it also erodes faith in the justice system as well as in women who really have been raped.

Uraneum · 2018-10-20T21:44:59+00:00

"Should a person go to jail for fabricating and then framing a crime?" HMMM

maxcorrice · 2018-10-20T21:39:15+00:00

People constantly bring up the argument of “it’ll discourage real victims from coming out” but all it would do is encourage it, if our court system worked like it should neither would be jailed in a non conclusive case, but if people who lie are punished those who tell the truth will be believed more

themolestedsliver · 2018-10-20T22:01:21+00:00

Still remember when at my first boy girl party as a highschool kid and i was awkward as fuck to this girl i had a crush on who i knew since we shared a school bus. Anyway i was reals awkward with her but nothing a "ok i wont be around this kid" wouldn't have solved but she thought it was funny to spray me with shower cream and run in the bathroom. I got up from pretending to fall over and then took a handful and wiped it on the small of her back (i could feel her spine). This lead her to give me a dirty look and walking to the other room to i assumed allow me to clean up. I go in the next room to hear the party is apparently winding down and that i could feel tension in the air but didn't know what it was.

The next day at school i hear from friends that she went around telling people i grabbed her ass at the party when i surely did not (a straight boy in the throws of puberty touching his crush's ass wouldn't give me a boner? come on).

Even though i faced no legal consequences i have issues with girls and women as a result and paranoid as fuck i am going to be accused of something.

We shouldn't immediately doubt accusations but immediately accepting them and bullshit like "girls dont lie about rape" is just as bad.

-manatease · 2018-10-20T22:32:55+00:00

I think a new laws are necessary, not to prosecute false accusers (because that should be happening in any case), but for this form of social terrorism in general.

Think about it, girls bullying other girls (and sometimes boys) usually involves a form of social terrorism where rumours and manipulation are employed in an attempt to ruin the victim's life. That's a lot worse than some physical bullying. Not all of physical bullying of course, yet one is an indisputable crime and one is essentially a civil matter... something else/other and somehow not as serious (?).

The problem I see is when this behaviour is confirmed that nothing tends to happen, either because the girls are too young, because it "might prevent other victims coming forward" or any other excuse depending on context. It's about time that social terrorism of this nature is taken more seriously as the destructive force it is, but it's completely out of line with feminist thinking that men are to blame for everything.

AllieFalcon07 · 2018-10-20T23:21:43+00:00

I mean, if they KNOW its fake, there is a crime called "Falsifying a police report" not that we would ever do it with Trump around but Perjury is also a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury

mynameisstacey · 2018-10-21T00:07:43+00:00

How do you distinguish between false accusations and accusations that could be true, but just aren’t probable?

Sadly, even rapists who are found guilty often serve very little or no prison time at all. That’s my other concern. We have people who were found guilty beyond reasonable doubt walking away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Aren’t they arguably a bigger danger to society than false accusers?

keyjunkrock · 2018-10-20T21:24:59+00:00

"Should woman go to jail for falsely accusing men of touching children?"

"Should woman go to jail for falsely accusing men of murder?"

In all seriousness this sub has become the same like 3 conversations over and over, and that's not a bad thing. It's actually silly that the conversation even needs to be had though.

BubblingMonkey · 2018-10-20T21:32:07+00:00

It's a popular opinion that women should go to jail for falsely accusing men of rape. It harms both men and real victims of rape. Men by ruining lives and real victims by making their real issues less valid due to false rape accusers.

Mantequilla_Stotch · 2018-10-20T23:39:02+00:00

They should be charged with kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment and possibly attempted murder (due to what would happen in prison if you are found guilty while being innocent..) . And also have to pay up for damages to the victim (the person they lie about)

Aerofan2 · 2018-10-20T23:27:10+00:00

How are you supposed to know if it’s false or not

Custodian_Carl · 2018-10-21T01:21:02+00:00

I don’t understand, it’s not like the woman raped anyone /s

lolz_123 · 2018-10-21T06:04:29+00:00

I thought everyone agrees with this? I sure do.

HardKase · 2018-10-21T07:18:41+00:00

On one hand yes. On the other hand we want them to admit it and get the guys out of jail asap.

nonamefounder · 2018-10-21T11:18:01+00:00

Everyone should go to jail for that shit.

D3adAlr3ady · 2018-10-21T18:07:59+00:00

Dumbass question from dumbass people

eonus01 · 2018-10-21T22:12:51+00:00

Rape accusations wouldn't even be a problem if the court system complied to the idea of innocent before guilty. Because then, none of these fake accusations would ever be proven and court would laugh at their lack of evidence.

actualsize123 · 2018-10-22T01:43:15+00:00

maybe not for a long time but they should be punished and it should be put on their permanent record. should also have to serve community service hours at a men's shelter.

Sklushi · 2018-10-20T18:45:25+00:00

They should go for life

Shitlordlogic222 · 2018-10-20T19:04:54+00:00

Aerofan2 · 2018-10-20T23:28:08+00:00

Being accused of rape ruins your life, just like the president and supreme court justice

juliebear1956 · 2018-10-20T23:32:01+00:00

There was a horrible incident. A 15 year old was raped in her bedroom. She did not react as those around her thought she should. So her foster mother told the police officer dealing with her case she thought the girl was lying. The police officer bullied until she said she had made it up. Then she was forced out of her foster home because they thought she might claim her father foster was an abuser. No matter how hard she tried she could not get anyone to believe her she was told she was just attention seeking. She was forced to make a public apology Forced out onto the streets she lost everything. Even her best friend set up a FB page telling everyone she was a lying slut. She was charged with making a false rape claim and was given a jail sentence for 6 months. Fast forward two years. A serial rapist was caught. In his house were photographs of very single victim he had raped. This young girl was one of them. What is worse the rape in the bedroom was not the first. She was raped when she was 9. Very few women make false accusations. Just because one person makes a false statement does not mean the thousands of others who have come forward have also done so. For every woman who comes forward there are perhaps a hundred who have not. How this young woman had the strength to overcome is a testiment to her strength of character.

2018-10-21T00:52:05+00:00

Did any of you ask that question just so that you could start a circlejerk?

DarkseidHS · 2018-10-21T04:02:34+00:00

It really depends on what you mean when you say false confession. If it's a woman that comes forward and theres little to no evidence to support her claim but she maintains it happened, that cannot be punished. There's still a chance he did it, it just couldn't be proven. If she comes forward and admits to making it up is another scenario, but that feels like a civil matter and not really a criminal one imo.

IGottaTakeATrump · 2018-10-20T22:14:34+00:00

Yes, but so should people who falsely accuse a woman who was actually raped of lying for her personal gain. The coverage of Justice Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford has brought public attention to the ugly truth of how ready and enthusiastically willing the American public is to accuse women of making it up, even from the very instant that they come forward saying that they were raped.

jayhalk1 · 2018-10-20T22:13:11+00:00

Should jail go to rape for falsely accusing men of women.

unsmartest · 2018-10-20T21:02:25+00:00

Everyone that is so worried about being falsify accused must treat women like shit on a daily basis.

littlefilms · 2018-10-20T21:16:22+00:00

"should male rapists who lied about not raping go to jail?" /s

Edit: I was using quotes, I thought it was clear I taking the piss as if this person's logic was being used for men... It's supposed to sound stupid, that's the point...

HellaBrainCells · 2018-10-20T20:56:10+00:00

Liars hurt survivors. Believe women and punish them too.

penisofablackman · 2018-10-20T21:04:59+00:00

Not only they should, they should get the same minimum-maximum penalty range that the jurisdiction has for the crime they falsely accused someone of.

2018-10-21T06:07:32+00:00

Not at all

slack_jawed_twit · 2018-10-20T18:32:50+00:00

I think they should have to experience exactly what they falsely accused someone else of doing, 3 times a day, for a duration equal to the sentence the accused would have gotten.

DaSaw · 2018-10-21T02:59:03+00:00

Jailing someone for a false accusation seems a bit much to me. That said, judges probably should consider the effects of an accusation when determining damages in a slander or libel suit. If her accusation reduces his ability to make a living, she can pay the difference.

sjn2203 · 2018-10-20T18:30:26+00:00

No they shouldn’t. “THINK OF THE PATRIARCHY”

TheDubiaGuy · 2023-02-24T02:38:37+00:00

Why is this even a question? Yes!

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Title	They absolutely should
Author	swiet
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Date	October 20, 2018 3:39 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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