Thoughts?

raisins3142 · 2018-06-23T19:47:35+00:00

It was always at least more that way with women than men. Now, with women act like it is a zero sum game so it is usually a negative sum game from the guy's perspective.

GoodVibesMGTOW · 2018-06-23T19:48:33+00:00

I wish men would stop believing in it, but unfortunately many (most) men still believe in the Disney and Hallmark definition of relationships and love. I don't think females ever believed in that definition of love or relationships. Their hypergamous nature doesn't allow them to. That's why men are the true romantics, and that's why men get screwed over. I hope my brothers wake up soon!

pnwhomebrewer · 2018-06-23T22:38:01+00:00

Dating is dead. My older relatives don’t even believe me when I say it’s easier to get laid then get a committed relationship. If you want a relationship as a guy and the girl doesn’t your considered weak and needy. If it’s the opposite you’re a player douche bag. It’s a zero win game. Don’t play and go your own way.

DangZagnut · 2018-06-23T19:12:04+00:00

That's certainly always been my approach to sex.

Whoever orgasms first wins.

Vinniikii · 2018-06-23T19:43:11+00:00

Whisper is a great place for Phils sophistry.

I think any time of economic inequality will probably have a more mercenary approach to love.

Orangecup05 · 2018-06-23T21:48:16+00:00

When were they ever mutually beneficial?

Never.

The only benefit is having kids to ensure to survival of the species and we don't even need to do that anymore. And that never benefited us, but all.

I take that statement as incomplete and it misses the point.

Mephitus · 2018-06-23T23:02:50+00:00

I would say it's only partially correct. Things have devolved into a negative sum game instead. If men can benefit, then it has to be taken down even if women are helped too. If it isn't wholly gynocentric, then it must be torn down.

chalchium · 2018-06-24T04:41:24+00:00

There is never romance. This is pure modern garbage spewed out by conglomerates to waste men's money. In the past men kept women at home to take care of kids and housework so that they could concentrate on their own work. That's why women were discouraged to have education or their own career. Many places marriage or coupling was done by the parents, the children had no say.

Romance were just fairy tales for people to enjoy when they had free time. People just followed tradition and procreated. No men gave a fuck about soulmate or significant other as if women were divine goddesses that saved his soul like modern simps do.

It is the modern day megacorps' greed for blood money that created this romance fallacy then feed it to the gullible, so that men can be easily manipulated into slaves who always think his life is incomplete.

hmspain · 2018-06-24T03:06:27+00:00

This is how it always was. The only point in the past 1000 years where it wasn't like this was maybe 1950s America.

People coming out of the Great Depression didn't give a shit about one upping each other over petty bullshit, they were just happy to have their post-war prosperity.

CanYouSeeTheWords · 2018-06-24T01:07:04+00:00

*thots

JohnOrange2112 · 2018-06-24T01:09:54+00:00

Men are just waking up to the millenia-old reality. "Beneficial romantic connections" was always feminized propaganda.

JamesLucratif · 2018-06-24T01:16:12+00:00

Capitalism plays a large role in that

Especially neo liberal capitalism

trseeker · 2018-06-24T02:10:12+00:00

"...where the female wins at the expense of the male." FTFY

Griever114 · 2018-06-24T02:57:55+00:00

Nailed it.

mechdemon · 2018-06-24T03:07:14+00:00

truth

Cuck-WTF · 2018-06-24T03:33:00+00:00

A bit wordy, but an accurate expression of relationships in the current day. They are taught that their partner is their enemy and that they must win, not only that but their partner must lose. Constantly, daily, or the relationship is out of your control.

kaczan3 · 2018-06-24T03:42:16+00:00

Thoughts? Thots!

DimoneFreehold20 · 2018-06-24T03:51:47+00:00

This hasn’t been an organic development. From reading up on the history I’d say this has been directed by Cultural Marxists. If you’re lazy like me get LibriVox and listen to the Communist Manifesto. Feminists today are screeching the same delusional garbage Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels were 150 years ago.

BananaWilly · 2018-06-24T04:07:36+00:00

It can't be 'zero sum' if one party always wins?

lulz3r · 2018-06-24T04:45:10+00:00

At the expense of men. Otherwise it’s pretty spot on.

nofilmynofucky · 2018-06-24T05:58:28+00:00

Jesus. I mean you're not wrong but goddamn

everythingisatoms · 2018-06-24T07:32:28+00:00

Don’t get married, your sum always remain with you. :)

Cristi_Tanase · 2018-06-24T18:46:13+00:00

individualistic mindset gets you there eventually...

Title	Thoughts?
Author	stonephilosopher68
Upvotes	231
Comments	44
Date	June 23, 2018 7:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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