Virgins

georgesoyros · 2018-11-28T14:21:12+00:00

"The wise man learns from the mistakes of others, the fool has to learn from his own."

If I had a DeLorean I'd go back in time and remain a virgin. It's not worth it. Also, you can always GYOW, with or without sexperiences, with or without relationships with women. Especially in this era, where everyone shares their story online, which makes it very easy to learn from the mistakes from others.

Emanresu_rouy_esoohc · 2018-11-28T13:58:37+00:00

No, they are the smartest/luckiest ones of all. Whether they are volcel or incel is irrelevant. They learned from the mistakes of others rather than having to get burned themselves. Put it this way: if u were a short ugly socially awkward beta who has been treated like dogshit by every woman he's ever interacted with why would he need to have sex with one to know he wants nothing to do with them? Especially after learning no woman will ever desire him other than for his resources or status?

MrStokeMan · 2018-11-28T14:06:01+00:00

Though I see your point, in some cases we have guys who are age 17, look around at the facts and say, "holy shit I want no part of this". Is being destroyed by a woman the price of entry to being a mgtow? I think not.

Now, there are definitely some angry virgins on this sub, but when you paint them all with the same brush, you are doing exactly the same kind of thing that makes me so annoyed with feminists.

I do get annoyed by the angry incels that bandwagon onto mgtow. It's the same as a kid who lost a game of chess and flips the board over.

Food for thought.

Konsaki · 2018-11-28T15:15:14+00:00

"You didn't do the same stupid things I did, so you can't really be 'Going your own way'!"

Fuck off.

Rhodesius · 2018-11-28T14:47:00+00:00

So you're telling me in order to be a proper MGTOW now I have to go out and spend my time, effort and money courting some bitch into bed?

Fuck you cunt!

All the women I've ever known had nothing good about them. My mother is an evil bitch. All girls throughout high school were vapid, superficial whores. College they're all fat thots without an interesting thing about them.

Never have I seen a man happy in a relationship. Dudes getting bossed around and nagged at by a grouchy wench they call 'wife' for decades until they die. Guys getting cheated on and then called abusive afterwards.

And how would a woman improve my life? Maybe some pheromones or some shit would make me feel better for a while, but in the end a woman is at the very least a chore... another person you have to keep happy.

And how would being inside a vagina change my perspective? "Ah yes, I see now; it isn't worth it."

Doesn't matter. I don't need the label mgtow, 90% of the stories posted here are fuckin fake and you saps eat it up. They can call me angry virgin and incel all they like. All you idiots are the same.

Sol_Install · 2018-11-28T14:19:13+00:00

If you're angry about not getting laid, you don't get MGTOW. Why you are getting laid or not matters. Japan has male escorts and women pay for them. The women act like men. Spending money on dates, taking about marriage born from lust, saying they love someone who they don't know. The escorts? Act like women. Think the women are crazy. Want to be left alone. Finding the women annoying. Now if you don't understand what I'm saying, how it relates to dating, and how women view men, you don't understand MGTOW.

If you're bitter about not getting laid, you need to understand why. You need to understand what it means that women can sell sex and men struggle to. You need to understand why.

I cannot honestly shame men who have never been in a relationship. Fact is, it has become increasingly dangerous as a man. And especially for those women don't desire. You're looking at potential DV false charges, rape accusations, losing your job, violence from men, petty revenge of all sorts.

rooster-one4 · 2018-11-28T14:37:36+00:00

I see men learning from the experience of other men, trusting when we say the pot it's hot that it really is hot and we're not just fucking with their mind.

There is no reason or requirement to get wounded on the battlefield if you don't want to. This isn't like a gang where we have an initiation rite

[deleted] · 2018-11-28T14:36:06+00:00

Why would one get into smth he is 100% sure it's not going to end well? We are smart, these guys are wise...

Its like saying that to learn how to shoot you need to get shot to understand the consequences before deciding to shoot someone

Solstus22 · 2018-11-28T17:45:39+00:00

That's like asking a woman's permission to go your own way which is the opposite of gyow. Now I'm sure others have said this as well, being a MGTOW: your sexual past or present or current status shouldn't matter at all. Besides, a MGTOW shouldn't rely on outside validation for his choices, correct?

Let me put it this way regarding what happened to you: First, We're all sure you're not the only one who suffered under an abusive mother, the gynocentric education and legal system as well.

Second: You seem a little miffed that the younger or inexperienced MGTOWs didn't suffer the same way you did and countless others. Let me put it this way, a MGTOW's story of being raped through the system and others is a testament on a warning to marriage and relationships today; it shouldn't be considered a rite of passage to be MGTOW for many reasons; one of it being that it may lead some men to suicide. In a way, the younger generation believes you and your story via observable reality and statistics.

Inkfyuk · 2018-11-28T14:38:10+00:00

In order to go your own you must receive female validation by having sex with a woman

The post

Gears_Chris · 2018-11-28T15:12:29+00:00

I'm a virgin (instant downvote. R.I.P.) but I've done just about everything else (so is that still a virgin. I think halfway), but I've experienced so much B.S. from women that I became MGTOW. Not out of anger like some MGTOW, but because I was losing track of my future and focusing on the wrong stuff. I realized dating right now is pointless even as a cuck. I've had a go and say "I touched her." I've had a girl say "I pull the I dont deserve you." And I had a girl say that, "I'm just too busy right now." < (Most recent). I think you've at least had to be in some form of an intimate relationship. I think you can be a virgin and be MGTOW. Or you can even just have had frequent women in your life. You're an incel if you hate women for not giving things. You're a MGTOW if you are enraged by women taking things.

DWShimoda · 2018-11-28T23:25:52+00:00

okay so i wasn't expecting a positive response but at the same time Im baffled

Your problem is that you conflate "virgin" with "incel" -- there is undoubtedly a lot of overlap, but they are NOT necessarily the same thing.

Let's put it this way: you don't HAVE to stick your hand into the fire and get "burned" to comprehend NOT to do that shit.

To continue that analogy "incels" are guys who haven't (yet) stuck their hand in the fire, haven't yet been "burned"... but are OBSESSED with the idea of doing so (someday, if only...), and focus/define their entire identity and view of the world around it.

By contrast, a "virgin" is simply someone who hasn't stuck his hand into the fire, hasn't been "burned" -- but is NOT necessarily "obsessed" with it... in fact may have (wisely) realized that there is little to nothing to be gained from it that he has not already learned by watching many other idiots get burned.

Inkfyuk · 2018-11-29T00:11:56+00:00

I took a vow of abstinence from sex until marriage, (I'm Christian). I found TRP on accident when watching videos on YouTube. Remaining a virgin was already an option before that, and essentially becoming celibate so it wasn't that hard to pick up MGTOW. I would love to be a father and husband, that having been said I can see the state of things, and as it has been said "the juice isn't worth the squeeze". As a Christian I want what God wants for me, and I dont feel that involves marrying a woman who slept with Lord knows how many men, who doesn't love or respect me, and who even is the church has about a %50 chance of divorcing me. What loving father would want that for their child. Anywho there are virgins on here who mean it, and plan to live like it.

eduardkoopman · 2018-11-28T13:59:28+00:00

I kinda agree. Also. MGTOW for me is more then just going your own way when it comes to dating/relationships with women. It also includes, going your own way from: government, society believes and conventions, cultural believes and conventions, being a work-slave, etc..

BetterDerailed · 2018-11-28T14:07:46+00:00

https://youtu.be/BfmCkze0YKg

Mgtow_Maester · 2018-11-28T14:33:07+00:00

I see your point. Virgins may still be one BJ away from caving.

But you can still get royally fucked over by women even without giving them the D. The danger is not just in having sex or being in a romantic relationship with them any more. Just being around them most of your waking hours at school, work or even at home can be brutal.

KushKenobi · 2018-11-28T18:26:32+00:00

You're equating virginity with lack of experience. Virginity is lack of sexual experience. I'm not sure the correlation between strictly sexual experiences and MGTOW.

arsenewengerjacket · 2018-11-28T20:58:24+00:00

As a man going his own way, you can still decided to get your dick wet if you have a good at that type of thing, pump and dump, no point in paying for the Cow if the Milk is free.

I agree OP, you need to deal with all their shit in order to be fully going your own way because the women are the reason we are going our own way, without that experience and kick up the arse you will never truly nor fully understand what it means to truly go your own way, without the experience of the bullshit we have gone through the MGTOW experience will and can't be fully embraced unless you have deal with all the horrors of being married of being in a relationship, it's that simple.

Alex-113 · 2018-11-29T05:29:34+00:00

Incel and virgin are not the same.

shitfren · 2018-11-29T09:34:44+00:00

So you are basically saying that they should burn there own hand to see for themself that fire is hot? Really bad advise imo, but i can see where you are coming from.

earringthrwy · 2018-11-29T17:03:55+00:00

Why does it matter if incels are apart of MGTOW to you? Becoming MGTOW out of frustration from rejection, and flat out being ignored by women is just as valid of a reason for going MGTOW as being fucked over by women. You sound like an asshole to be honest. You are being an elitist about this. Just because you were able to attract women, doesn't make you better than those that can't, and give up on trying. There are many reasons why someone could be a virgin. This community should be a Brotherhood where all are welcome regardless of why they are here.

donkeypunchapussy · 2018-11-28T13:55:35+00:00

Agree 100%.

Title	Virgins
Author	SmoothEverytime
Upvotes	0
Comments	41
Date	November 28, 2018 1:52 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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