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[–]Docbear64261 points262 points263 points 7 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Really where can a man look besides other men for support and recognition ?
Women are constantly reinforcing ideas that they are as strong as us , smarter than us , more capable of leadership , more deserving of more money , better at socializing , better at parenting , better at working , cleaner , prettier ( with 3lbs of makeup) , more empathetic , more emotionally understanding and all us men have done and ever do is ... apparently ruin the lives of women ...
How could a man be content in this society if he had ANY sort of self respect?
[–]QuantumTheories_42143 points144 points145 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I love the double standards these women also bring. One second they're screaming that Men are too masculine and don't talk about their feelings enough, so men do. The next second they're laughing at you for being a pussy, weak, girly, etc., for expressing such feelings. Either way, Men can't win!
I was raised to never ever hit a woman, even if she is beating the shit out of you. You're supposed to take it like a man, hide your feelings, stay strong, don't stray from the path. Hold doors open, have a job and support my family, etc. I'm not mad about being raised this way, but what's irritating is that now I'm being told that I'm toxic to society because I was raised this way and because this way oppresses women. I still have yet to see how women are oppressed in Canada or the US in 2019. In fact they may even be the most privileged class!
[–]Docbear6481 points82 points83 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I had to use a single word to describe women it would be " more" . No matter how much you give, no matter how much you do , no matter how much you sacrifice they always will and always do want more. Even if more is no good for them , even if more means you are ruined in the process they are the gender of more .
Eventually More turns into all though and a simple human reality is that you can't have it all , none of us can but they refuse to see that they just keep pressing for more.
[–]LiveTheTruth32138 points39 points40 points 7 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
They need constant excitement. Plus they dont know what they want because they're easily bored. The easy to get what they want (excitement) is with drama unless they're getting a good fuck.
[–][deleted] 42 points43 points44 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That’s why I noticed so many women want to guy who can make them laugh
Women want a porn star a comedian a therapist a butler and a walking ATM all wrapped up in one package
[–]cfab283 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, that's exactly how I'd like my woman...
[–]doctormodulator1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now kith.
[–]247spyz4life2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They don’t care that much about sense of humor. They’d rather have a dangerous aggressive tattoo covered dude who’s been in jail because that’s exciting to them. Constant drama, abuse, maybe even the cops breaking down her door, etc. this kind of bullshit turns women on for some reason
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s why Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez got love letters from women
They need constant excitement. Plus they dont know what they want because they're easily bored.
This is one of the defining traits of sociopathic, narcissistic and borderline personality disorders. The current times are a great example of how much environment contributes to the formation of these disorders.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd consider having a relationship with one of there was an off switch
[–]FarBeyondTheDonut3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Japan is working on that.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In fact they may even be the most privileged class!
They are.
[–]erise9040 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It may be a r/unpopularopinion but I find men to be... let’s say “prettier”. Let me explain, women put so much makeup on themselves they often don’t even look human. Men are much more natural and athletic guy looks so much better than athletic female. We are also straightforward, no games, “true” man doesn’t like you, you’ll know it, while woman still pretends if she has any profits out of you. Also guys can bond with each other so much better and talk about anything. Idk if that is readable, I’m tired after football practice :) Oh, and I’d like to add I am not gay, definitely not just redpilled AF
TL;DR I find men more worthy my time both in terms of looks and character and I’m not gay ;)
[–]Docbear6411 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOL fair enough you explained yourself well and I remmeber how exhausting football practice was for me haha . have a good nap .
[–]Ben_Eszes2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys are better at everything, including looking better. You're totally right. I'd say that nearly every 10/10 woman drops down a point or two without makeup. But a 10/10 guy will stay that way for a long time unless he turns homeless-mode.
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why the mgtow community is all we have left.
[–]youngshinobi731 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What bothers me is the hypocrisy of hate that women against men. You say you don't need a man yet who arrives when your plumbing needs work, when you need a new roof, when your car breaks down, when you need an electrician, and so forth I can go on and on.
We do the jobs you won't do and you complain about a wage gap? Or you complain about toxic masculinity, well what if all men were soft and flamboyant. Would that be who you want fighting your wars that gave us the very freedom you take for granted. Jeez don't get me started...
[–]PingPauli2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont work for women or stop crafting officially in general. Craft for yourself. I dont know where u live but in Europe u get an unlimiteed income of 1000$ anyways. Most people dont know that industrial machines have to pay taxes for the jobs they took. 100 years ago men wanted automatic machines, so that their kids dont have to do shitty jobs.
[–]iWillNotLetYouGo7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol'd at makeup (also plastic surgery(. It really is ridiculous. It should be criminal fraud to deceive people that way.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly mate. Plus they say talk about feelings and emotions then they get disgusted by it. Next minute their is a train being run over her in every hole.
[–]Paladin29032 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea, that’s just a shit test to weed out what they deem to be “betas.” If you want to keep a girl, don’t EVER show any sort of mental instability or problems.
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Trust me, tried tested and brutally true. Had shit tests for the last 20 years. Water off a ducks back.
[–]CastandRefused2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, self respect is key here. I absolutely refuse to take part in this mess.
Don't let them be the determinent of your self respect.
For your vision alone you have much respect here.
Don't live another moment of your life for anyone elses expectations
[–]maestroenglish-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Get a good wife
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Where? In western society woman are becoming men.
[–]jrpark051 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"You just haven't met the right one."
[–]magx010 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's like saying get a good poisonous pet.
[–]CiceroVoltaire82 points83 points84 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
pretty much, I'd add the costs of welfare for single mothers and their spawn, i.e., privilege
[–]Sir_manalot54 points55 points56 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You can add alot more.
Watch unqualified women sore past them because of bullshit.
Get blamed for all of the world's problems.
Told to man up and take responsibility for things he didn't cause or get any benefit from...and isn't provided a way to even man up anyway.
Watch attractive women date the type of men that society despises and then be told that you have to pay for it.
Have to spend several years of work to reach societies expectations and you are hated/ignored until you reach those standards.
Etc, etc.
[–]Haywood_Jablomie421 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck, your first point hits home. I've been working 16+ hours a day the last few months because I got stuck covering for a woman out on maternity leave. I'm lucky if I get a "thanks" when finishing up projects, yet women in our department who spend half their day on Facebook or talking about their weekend plans get promotions or public recognition just for showing up.
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[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see no reason why single motherhood is more difficult than single fatherhood but when you look at any relevant bipartisan statistics, there is actually very little negative effects on the childrens propensity to succeed financially or stay out of trouble legally. And so maybe the reason single motherhood is fucking difficult is because mothers are worse parents in separated households because think of how fucking toxic it is to tell your daughter to not seek out a meaningful relationship with a partner because she is "independent" and think of how much fucking worse it is for the sons.
Also take this with a grain of salt because its polling data on single mothers opinions, but 7/10 single mothers say the father of their children are a "dead beat". Despite 80% of child support payments being made 🤔🤔🤔 you mean to say women complain and exaggerate about things to make themselves sound more like the victim than they actually are. Ya don't say 🤔. And thats a bad parenting strategy if you want to instill the level of personal responsibility that would prevent single motherhood from spiraling out of control and destroying entire communities with toxicity little by little since the 1960s when most of the single moms that originally got fucked over were trying to be supportive to each other because their partners got arrested during the civil rights movement... literally the best reason I can think of to be in jail rather than there for your family. And then that toxic shit spreads like wildfire and now 80% of African American boys have no male role models in the home or at school during their developing years to teach them the exact type of responsibility it would take to stick by someone who you didnt want anything more than casual sex with when there is an accidental pregnancy.
[–]TigPlaze55 points56 points57 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women exploiting men for money, and feminists don't give a shit. They only want to change women's gender roles, not ours.
[–]nnosuckluckz26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s because, as has been known since the origins of MGTOW - feminism is not about equality. It’s about taking rights from men and giving them to women.
Thankfully for us feminism is “organized” by mostly women (with some betas thrown in) so they’ll never actually accomplish what they set out to do, as once it gets difficult they’ll give up.
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[–]grizzer9917 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh look. All of my ex girlfriend's traits. Spot on bro. Non serviam
[–]JTXPdev3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just described pretty much every girl on dating apps. No wonder society is so fucked lol
That's the summary list. There is a full set of hard back books with remaining traits.
[–]DarknetUser99948 points49 points50 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are toxic. Period. Bring in the sex robots.
[–]renritss36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And also taking your children hostage to control you, even your own opinions. Case in point: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-judge-rules-dad-cant-stop-14-year-old-daughter-from-transitioning-into-boy
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When I was 14 years old I want plastic surgery to look like Eddie from the Iron Maiden album covers does it mean it was a good idea? No.
[–]tdh79220 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What about their laziness and nagging?
Fucking shit.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I like this guy, reminds me of myself
[–]RosieILuvThisMaguire0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeesh
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is just a scooby doo mystery.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
The thing that made me give up was this weird dynamic where a woman keeps demanding more and more and more and more and more.. and you're supposed to provide and give and do and serve and obey... without getting ANYTHING in return.
She wants to world? Give. Now she wants the Moon. Now she wants the Sun. Now she wants the solar system. And you keep giving and wondering when you'll get something in return... wondering why it's not okay to ask anything in return. Wondering why it's important to feel like giving to a woman is it's own reward. Wondering why it's looked down upon to not accept this dynamic.
Fuck dating. Fuck marriage. Fuck women. Fuck gynocentric society.
[–]Paladin29035 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s never enough for these parasites. Just remember, you are the host — the real prize with the goods. She is the parasite. Society has us brainwashed to think it’s the other way around.
As long as a guy takes care of himself, stays in reasonably good shape, has enough resources, etc., HE is the prize.
Today’s women (and their rapidly depreciating “beauty”) are mostly all an illusion, anyway.....
fake nails, fake eyelashes, fake hair, fake hair colors, high heels, makeup, fake tits, fake asses, fake lips, fake eye color contacts, fake tans, girdles, waist trainers, photoshop, app filters, pictures at all the right angles to make them look thin.
Fellas, you gotta realize these bitches aren’t really much of anything when you strip all this shit off.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention they come with an attitude, that's your reward for going after something that is fake if you manage to avoid all the dangers they potentially bring.
I used to think that women wanted a man who is tall, rich, good looking, strong etc... But no. They just want more.
What happens when you give them more? They'll want some more of more.
[–]lawda_lassan2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes fuck 'em. Just don't get married to them. Also even if we ask something in return we won't get anything because women don't have much to offer.
[+]Wilsons_Human-8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you need to just choose better women and stop going after the ditzy morons.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What about a nice hot cup of fuck off you weak little troll
[+]Wilsons_Human-6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Poor bunny does the truth hurt?
Don't know sweetie best you approach him self and ask? Come on now it's time for you to spread accept yourself and be open about your sexual desire for men. It's ok alright. I can recommend therapist if you need it ok.
You know what I mean by therapist.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh me you were talkingt to ? Here's my honest opinion is+5/$_ &'4 5?9 1=++!?(;?#++
[–]jrpark054 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
WhO hUrT yOu?
mAn Up, It'S yOuR dUtY.
yOu JuSt HaVeN't MeT tHe RiGhT oNe.
[–]Paladin29032 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, all 7 of them that are left.
You just gave an example to my argument.
[–]PolesWithGoals9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Fuck tinder
[–]Paladin29034 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly correct. As soon as Tinder came out, that’s when I noticed girls REALLY started to change for the worse.
Their attitudes became so fucking entitled, delusional, and stand-offish. I had no clue why, back then, but now I can see it so clearly, as to why.
[–]PolesWithGoals0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
They aren’t “dating” apps, they’re “hookup” apps
Do you get much action off it?
Don't work?
[–]JTXPdev5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“I’m 31 and just want to have fun” as she fucks the 4th guy in 2 weeks from Tinder.
So inspirational to all the womenz out there!
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sub may very well be the last hope for the human race.
I genuinely mean that.
Men are not really fed up, they're becoming smart and they remember an old war strategy: It's not relevant what the enemy WOULD do, it's relevant what the enemy CAN do.
Case in point: When I saw “inflated egos” I seriously thought it said “inflated dogs” long enough to also think “hey, what’s wrong with inflated dogs?” The point is not ALL men are dumb, just the ones like me who can’t read and have no problem with inflated dogs.
[–]yjr31962 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminist School Punishes Boys by Taking Away Their Recess on International Women's Day
https://pluralist.com/feminist-school-punishes-boys-by-curtailing-their-recess-on-international-womens-day/
This caused me to get annoyed and finally one day I just ran out of care.
I'm not letting anyone tell me how to live. Is that not on par with racism?"
Laugh it off boys, let them project.
All the noise they make just shows how insecure they are.
4th wave feminism is destroying the fabric of society.
[–]anrii1882 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's look at the problem from another perspective. Why do women have so much power these days? Isn't it because we drop our pants when we see a hot ass a big boobie a beautiful face. What's the goal of dating for men, isn't it to get sex either pump 'n' dump or LTR. So men want sex and desire the contact with a women body and women know that and use that. These fucking princesses bring their bodies and faces and 'styles' to the tables, this is what they bring. And they want and want and want.
Let's be honest guys, men have a big part of reponsability for the state of women these days, they have built this culture. If you chase pussies and magnify them, this is what you get. Women are put on pedastals so high, it seems fucking nuts. All of that so powerful men can taste as much pussies as they can and for the others, well, Run Run don't miss your part from tinder/bars sluts, be alpha and screw them all kinda of shit...
A true MGTOW is a free man, a man that knows the fuck ups of modern culture/society, breaks his shackles, dissociate himself from all the non sense and live his life according to his beliefs and values and maybe if he wants to he can influence others in a good way and make an impact in this world. Harnessing the sexual energy is a big part. Don't be a slave to pussies but don't waste it in sex dolls or porn either. It's a game of balance. It comes with commitement and experience. At least, the knowledge of sex dynamics can prevent you from being manipulated because of your penis. The other way shows that you're just slave to your lust, a weak man, a fake MGTOW.
[–]TheSud0071 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I got no clue either 🤷🏼♂️
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I'm lost as to a solution men. It could take generations to correct it.
[–]Paladin29034 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Getting OFF any sort of online dating platform would be a huge start.
These apps only take power from men and put it FIRMLY in the hands of women. She can now pick guys like she can pick shoes and handbags.
This is one of the major reasons why women don’t value men and don’t respect us, anymore.
We have become nothing more than disposable water bottles, due to these apps.
I've not done online dating am just divorced late thirties and I feel a bit out of touch with all that. Thanks for your savagely honest opinion. You saved me a lot of time my good man.
[–]Paladin29033 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Anytime. Believe me, the dating world is an absolute shitshow since you last dated. Things have changed SO much in the last 6-7 years.
These girls are genuinely fucking insane, and VERY hostile. They are offended by anything and everything. The ones on dating apps are the absolute worst that humanity has to offer.
They’re basically just a bunch of attention whores and grifters.
Shit I hate to sound weak but that's kinda scary!!! !
[–]nightcycling0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok I'll ask this sub,question: (new at this) is it weakness to audibly talking to yourself when you are alone? If so? Then I'll grab my gun because I'll know my place. Really nothing on this either? Who's eating the soy now? Jesus
Feminist fat culture. MGTOW is easier when you get late 30:s because your not a slave to your cock as much
[–]PleaseCallMeTomato0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
on the unrelated note, MGTOW can also be Mikeys go their own way
[–]escalover0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where are all the good men going?!
[–]WeeklyWinter0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men aren’t toxic, but being toxically masculine is an issue. Crying doesn’t make you less of a man. Working in an office doesn’t make you less of a man. Being gay doesn’t make you less of a man. Being feminine doesn’t make you less of a man. Believing any of the aforementioned makes you less of a man means you are toxic. Work on it.
Be more specific. That is such a broad claim.
Men do tend to have larger egos, yeah.
Men can online date too. Point?
Sign a prenup.
Have sex with people you trust.
Oh no, a woman isn’t married. My mother was single for a period of time and she was a fantastic parent. Point?
Oh no, people have a lot of sex. That literally does not affect you in the slightest. Uncomfortable with your partner’s history? Break up with them. Don’t shame them or make them feel like shit for enjoying themselves. Just say it makes you uncomfortable and move on, even though men statistically men have more sex than women.
Neither am I, I’m pretty happy.
The jig is up.
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