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[–]UglyPrince2000 30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
Real quick how long after have you guys noticed that your interest in women dropped? At what age did it decrease the desire to be with a women, sexually? I wonder how long until my sex drive drops off.
[–]openmindedprometheus28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
27 for me. A switch gets flicked and then thinking head is in control. Then you look at women and see the burden they actually are.
[–]mojo_juju12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Late 20's here. Can confirm.
Lower drive. but, I also don't lift anymore. (lifted a ton in HS and college-- still got the hypertrophy).
Still, I think it's a matter of the complete end of puberty/adult development. As in, I'm done developing. Probably still some neocortex brain development into early 30's from what I heard recently on NPR.
[–]UglyPrince2000 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'm in mid 20's still have those strong sexual urges at times, but it's getting better each year. Feels nice! Did lifting increase you sexual urges? I was thinking of starting to lift seriously next year, I don't want to do it if it will increase my sexual urges though!
[–]mojo_juju10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
lifting
not smoking pot
those will keep your testosterone more elevated than it would be if you did the opposite of those things.
[–]UglyPrince2000 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck I still want to lift though, already bought the equipment and shit. Oh well just going to have to rub one off, release the poison.
[–]NaughtyFred5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pot redlines my sex drive.
[–]sativex1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
pot has the opposite effect for me most the time.
[–]KidLotus 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will admit I do get horny when I get high . But I always resort to masturbation I never feel compelled to talk to a woman when high and horny.
[–]Kief_Bowl0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The smoking pot argument lowers test is about as good as the argument for most test boosters on the market get off your high horse
[–]sativex8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just turned 27, I feel like the switch has been there for 6 months or so, still can get stimulated if not careful.
[–]UglyPrince2000 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's different for everyone but I have started to feel a little more in control of my sex drive.
[–]Andtheoceansarewide 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
that's not changing for me. i love to fuck women. i love to dominate them. i love for them to beg me to choke them and make them (genuinely) beg to suck my cock and call me master. and at times i enjoy their company. mgtow for me is different. i guess not so extreme for me. i don't think women are the devil. like men they have good bits and bad bits. for me, mgtow is about thinking freely from what this increasingly gynocentric culture tells me. to not have to be a white knight. to not need women's approval. to not be polite the whole time. to not have to marry to be a real man. to live my life according to my values regardless of how many vaginas i offend. we are growing a gynocentric culture that likes to tell men how to be just as our formerly androcentric culture would tell women how to be. they rebelled from that. fair play. i'm rebelling from this. fair play. i know you may not like to hear this but i see mgtow guys who go so far as to not interact with women is the same as third wave feminists who wont want to interact with men because "all men are rapist pigs". all people have something good inside them. i just refuse to live in the mental cage that someone else wants to put me in. i'm gonna fuck who i want when i want and my methods for doing so (not rape obvs) are my business. I don't think we need to become uniks in order to live with emotional and material freedom from gynocentrism.
[–]UglyPrince2000 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So your sex drive hasn't died off at all? I hear it's natural for your sex drive to die off, maybe those married men's sex drive are still there but when you have a fat, annoying, ugly wife as your partner your sex drive kind of tends to fall off. I guess it's different for everyone. Women want to get married though, the more I study up on it the more I realize that the most sluttiest and manipulative women all want children and to be married or at least make a guy pay for her kids, i keep seeing the same pattern. You are fine with being all alone in the end then? That is the real test! Since I'm guessing you won't commit to marriage, most women will avoid a relationship with you after they find out you won't commit to them. No matter how perfect or alpha you are, they will no longer see you as an option and a switch will turn off and then will look else where, i have seen it before. Sex and only sex then?
[–]Andtheoceansarewide 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
we're all alone and never alone. i have friends, i have family, i go to groups, and yes i still meet women. If you mean alone sexually, that's up to you and how mgtow you want to be. if you mean generally, i don't think that's a good idea because we're highly social creatures. if you mean in old age, i don't think so. i intend on living with other old people, reminiscing, playing old people games, watching old people movies, and eating old people food.....and i'll have the money to get a nice swedish nurse to wipe my arse because i wouldn't be supporting a wife and kids for all those years. My response to the latter part of your message is that I will be more than happy for a woman after some time to end our relationship because she wants marriage and i wont get married. A) if what i want is a life long relationship then i will need to find someone who also doesn't want or care for marriage. which is possible. B) I don't necessarily want a life long relationship unless she genuinely is my soul mate. There's an analogy i give about people's desire to get married. it's like getting a job. if you come from a starting position of "i need a job" you will undoubtably find a job eventually. but will it be your calling? will it be your true love? will it be the perfect match? probably not. after a number of years in this job, you may feel stuck and you may even become resentful but you stay because you're afraid of not having a job. My advice is to forget the job and instead following your calling, your passion, your love and this will far more likely give you the most fulfilling life long career you can hope for. in the same way, i am far more likely to meet my soulmate by being willing to say goodbye to women. if some girlfriend NEEDS to get married and dumps me as a result, she's only acting according to what matters to her. good luck to her. i don't think it has to be sex and only sex. Many of us do long for closeness and connection. Do we need to sign a legal contract to get that? i don't think so. and if we stay in bad relationships because we don't want to be alone, we're definitely going to be and feel alone. instead, my mgtow is love and connection with everyone. i love women and men (non sexual). i will always stick to my values and at times this will make me feel alone but it also means that the people who are compatible with me will value me that much more because i am far rarer than most. but you have to get out. you have to put reddit down and get into the world (that bit was for me just as much as it was for anyone else) :-)
[–]ozme2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro. Yes. This.
[–]tehnasihjer0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just visit sex workers. Make sure you take precautions when having sex in case she decides to make a false rape claim against you. The videos below will help.
https://youtu.be/O7Vui76cCCQ https://youtu.be/sTtGv6B4mqo https://youtu.be/DCLA-WmxPgI
[–]dazedandconfusedrp12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
At 24. Found MGTOW at 22. I've had girls asking me to go to parties several times but I always make excuses. Talking to a girl one on one is ok, most of the time, but if it's more, my blood pressure goes up (from their chatter).
[–]UglyPrince2000 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same, most girls and women are boring to talk to and you have nothing to add to the conversation most of the time.
[–]Jokerpool711 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They're boring because they don't have to make any effort , blue pilled men worship them and entertain them despite having the personality of a dry wall .
[–]Migtaosammich11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Took me till 39. Wish I knew this shit at 25.
Not cuz drop in libido. Still love sex. Just hate the tradeoffs more.
[–]UglyPrince2000 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah no doubt learning about female nature kills the fairy tale quicker and gives you real knowledge.
[–]UgOss 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
sadly, 36 and I dont think it will never go away. I still want to fuck most of them. No drug, no alcohol, I train, eat well, rarely fap and horny on a daily.
[–]gravelheart 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm in my early forties and my sex drive hasn't dropped since my teens... well maybe a little.
I just deal with it. Mostly by avoiding women entirely by living in the middle of nowhere.
[–]Iseewhateyesee5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mid 20s, mine hasn't dropped but I'm definitely more cautious. Now I can see the "code in the matrix" as opposed to before. So this new lens allows me to see interactions with them in a more vivid and real way. Before I was winging it and I did well for not having this concrete knowledge of their ways, but now I can sense intent behind seemingly innocuous actions. I still feel very attracted to them sexually, don't think that's gonna go away anytime soon, but emotionally/mentally, that's a rare find.
As for previous relationships, I'd say the marker when shit started to really wear me down and I felt trapped was around the 2-year mark, give or take a few months.
I've heard that this is when oxytocin, serotonin and all the other feel good buddies start to normalize and the "make it or break it" phase of the relationship takes place.
In retrospect I'm glad this happens because you start to see the person as more than a sexual or idealized object, but so too are you burdened or blessed with what you'll find. It goes both ways though, maybe you weren't Prince Charming either. 'Tis life
I'm not prince charming, I'm the ugly prince
[–]razikain 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 26, still have the sex drive but I can't be bothered to run after women since I was 20 I think.
[–]reptilianoverlord941 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow good question 1 month to see a decrease. Now I look at a woman and see a price to pay. The prettier they are the higher the price.
[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 22. I used to think about sex all the time, and I still do (I hope this fades soon), but when I was younger I just dismissed all the cons of sex as irrelevant.
MGTOW really helps with the sex drive, as remembering the tradeoffs can really kill your mood.
[–]Paladin29030 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
30, for me. I started really waking up to women (it rapidly accelerated) around 28. Of course, I was taking little red pills -- here and there -- with each passing relationship, up until this point. But, it all finally came together and really clicked in at this age.
At 31, my libido dropped, despite testosterone levels staying pretty much the same. I still jerk off, no problem. However, my desire to be intimate with them is not nearly what it was, because I know they're pretty much full of shit, and it isn't real.
After waking up to women, my desire is not nearly the same as it once was. After seeing them for what they really are, I'll just never be the same again, sadly.
[–]Wallstreet30 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Late 20s to early 30s. It was like a fucking light switch. Click. In complete control.
[–]boogalooshrimp11030 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
once at 16. permanently at 26
[–]johnnyblorf 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I lost my virginity at 26 and, while at the time I was bent out of shape about it, I now consider myself fortunate. Had I been getting laid in highschool when my brain's pleasure centers were way more active, I might have chased pussy right into a wedding band. As it is, sex is not a big deal for me. It's all right, but really more trouble than it's worth. Anyway, dyed hair and tattoos are warning signs for me so I'm not even attracted to most of the women I see.
[–]fre3k0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I still get flashes but I've been in control since 19. Slept around freshman year and realized women just are not worth the time investment.
Would have like to have kids I think, but it is simply not a tenable choice in today's society.
[–]TheyCallHimRenekton0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right now, at 17.
[–]johndoez351 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Late 20s. Nothing to do with my libido, entirely to do with having experienced the hell of a long term relationship.
[–]100men1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
At about 30 I figured out this is a mug's game and focus on career. It's working out VERY well
[–]dot_dot_beep14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I was watching porn one day, and I realized their cunts look like every other mammalian cunt and that I no longer had a profound sexual attraction to them anymore.
Have you tried anal?
[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, no pregnancy. although I wouldn't recommend unprotected sex with a woman
[–]MaunaLoona3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, animals, eh?
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[–]Andtheoceansarewide 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
refuse marriage at every turn
[–]Salt_Powered_Robot1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe you need to tattoo them on some part of your body, but I may be fuzzy on the details. I'll need to consult the Codex Internetum.
Simple. You just make a small deposit of $1,500 in my account and soon I'll wire you all of my nigerian fortune.
[–]up_syndrome0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put it on the refrigerator
[–]coolsilver1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. Hits deep in chest
[–]bohryb1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In the ballsack
[–]redsfan2770 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
lol thats another libcuck show man...come on seriously i do like it but i admit that there are some fucking leftist liberal stupid shit in that show
[–]Salt_Powered_Robot8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW != ring wing. I consider myself a libertarian, but regardless I don't see why MGTOW needs to be a partisan issue. We are here to give help advice and support to all men who decide to walk our path.
[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Of all the leftist movements the literal only one not supporting feminism I can remember is stalinism. Left wingers tend to support all that cuck jazz.
I'm a libertarian as well, I miss when "minimal government" was on the sidebar.
[–]Salt_Powered_Robot4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I agree there is a correlation, and there is definitely a historical conjunction between feminism and various forms of marxism, but never-the-less there is nothing within leftist politics as a whole that is inherently counter to MGTOW.
In fact, going by your logic, we can just as easily pit ourselves against the right, as they tend to advocate the most for the enslavement of men in family structures and having privileged protected status for women just because they have ovaries.
My point is: Leftist ideals, generally speaking, are not with or against MGTOW. Certain leftist ideals do go counter to MGTOW, as do certain rightist ideals. However, our little community if for men everywhere, we are united by a common enemy and malady, and that is not (strictly speaking) just left-wing or right-wing.
P.S: Stalin, the good marxist, was also big-time in to women's lib http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/russia-and-its-empires/chelsea-adler/
[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In fact, going by your logic, we can just as easily pit ourselves against the right(...)
Yes, judeo-christian family values are shit. Also I think you're understand my point when I declare that
Women are harmless, the state is dangerous
Just picture a woman trying to get half of your shit without a judge endorsing her. You're probably already smiling.
[–]Salt_Powered_Robot2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I understand what you're saying. I'm just not understanding the logical leap from this to "As MGTOW, an artwork depicting leftist ideas is counter to our agenda". Because as I said, the fact that the oppression of men currently comes from a leftist government, doesn't mean that a leftist government will inherently oppress men, or that a rightist government won't.
[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
left wing ideas are shit, right wings ideas are shit. Both promote big government. both promote the enslavement of men, be it covertly (right-wing), or openly (left-wing). This artwork depicts left-wing ideas. If I ever see an artwork depicting right-wing ideas, I'll make sure to express my disappointment.
But I do enjoy R&M deeply. Rick is a satire character, but it's done in such a subtle way, you can treat it as a legitimate character. It doesn't feel fake. Fuck what the artist meant, the show is really enjoyable that way. I'm looking forward for s3.
[–]Salt_Powered_Robot0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I really enjoy the show as well, I try not to spoil my enjoyment by bringing politics in to my cartoons
[–]ihateyouguys3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm so tired of the politicization here.
[–]Dannyfrommiami[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The line that got me hooked on Rick and Morty
[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mine was "They're bureaucrats, I don't respect them!"
Rick is the greatest animated character I can remember.
I know he's probably a parody so that the show can make satire out of his views, but it's played in such a smooth way you can just ignore it.
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