Hello guys

Talksaboutjobs · 2020-10-09T08:32:50+00:00

"BTW, is the idea of a feminist MGTOW even feasible?"

Lol, how any men could consider himself a feminist is beyond me, mgtow or not. Feminism is a hate movement, bend in creating a privileged caste of people, women, with more rights than men but not a quarter of the responsibilities. A feminist man is the same as a pro slavery slave.

josper11 · 2020-10-09T08:54:45+00:00

I don't care what other people think. I don't go around telling people I'm MGTOW, thinking I'm better than others. You don't talk about mgtow, you live it.

Anyone, man or woman, who aspires to have a traditional relationship is a fool. Society just doesn't work that way anymore and won't work that way again.

Any person, man or woman, who thinks for themselves will be considered "dangerous and toxic" by society, independent people are hard to manipulate, they consume less of the garbage that corporations offer, and most importantly, they can teach others to think for themselves. The first weapon society uses to force you back into the plantation is shame and the destruction of your reputation.

ArtisticConfidence63 · 2020-10-09T12:17:33+00:00

I would say if you're indian don't bother with MGTOW, the environment there is way too cucked for it to be feasible.

DangZagnut · 2020-10-09T21:01:27+00:00

MGTOW is about the self and avoiding pitfalls in life related to asymmetrical relationships.

Feminism is a religious hate cult about men.

Can you be both? Sure.

CuriousIncel2 · 2020-10-09T09:15:36+00:00

They can say whatever they want, I ain't getting married.

I've built a great life for myself, and I'm not risking that on the whims of a woman.

LongTimeOn · 2020-10-09T17:42:23+00:00

You'll find many men here who love women and enjoy relationships with them. It's not the women we hate, it's marriage, divorce laws, the family courts and everything that goes along with them. The current system is so entirely against men with very punitive outcomes that the only sane course of action is not to play. Hense why mgtow men do not commit to marriage, cohabitation and a host of other things.

Bleizik · 2020-10-09T22:03:41+00:00

I'm against rape, sexism, harassment, against men and women. I'm again sex trafficking, I'm again inequality, I'm for an appropriate treatment for men and women (which means that men should be treated the same way as women BUT it should not lead to discrimination).

But I'm not a feminist. I wouldn't call my self like that.

a_quiet_accountant · 2020-10-09T16:07:15+00:00

I never wanted a traditional housewife because that isnt an equal relationship, the man has to work like a slave and the woman just relaxes at home. Men should never pay for women. I'm obviously fine with women living "independently" from men, however most of these women aren't actually independent, they collect "child support" or alimony, or they benefit from being women in many other ways that discriminate against men.

Dead_Art · 2020-10-09T18:32:28+00:00

deep down many of you guys are afraid and intimidated that now as women can live life independently from men many of y'all won't be able to fulfill the fetish of a traditional submissive housewife.

No, many of us have experienced the "traditional submissive housewife" and want nothing to do with it. As for intimidated that women can live independently? No that is expected of you, the same way being able to wipe your ass and cover your genitals are

DonMelbourne · 2020-10-09T11:17:04+00:00

BTW, is the idea of a feminist MGTOW even feasible?

I'm a feminist MGTOW, but I use the classical definition of "feminism", which is equal opportunity for women in social, political and economic areas. I'd also add "equal responsibility" and "equal accountability", though I rarely see that added by feminists.

Nearly everyone in the West agrees with the idea that women should have equal opportunity, though only 20% of women in the West call themselves "feminist", suggesting that the common definition no longer applies.

TBH I do not believe in feminism at all.

How do you define "feminism"?

Solo_and_Simple · 2020-10-09T12:08:26+00:00

The general opinion of people there was that MGTOW by itself is a toxic, misogynistic "movement"

It's easy to get the impression that MGTOW is "toxic" and misogynistic, because that's how a lot of content creators come off at first. That's especially true, if you are coming from a blue pill perspective. Most of what they are saying will sound like angry, unfair generalizations about women.

That was my first impression, a few years ago, when I first encountered MGTOW. So I get it. It's an understandable and predictable reaction. I had it myself.

But I also heard some truth in there. I also heard things I wasn't hearing anywhere else. I heard things that were refreshing to hear, as a man (rather than always being portrayed negatively). And I heard things that woke me up from my naivete about relationships and women.

Eventually, I found my way to content creators with more nuance and humanity, rather than the angry haters I encountered in the beginning. It took some persistence.

Most people don't persist. They get the initial negative first impression of MGTOW as toxic and hateful, then they pull away and distance themselves from it. That's as far as their understanding progresses. I think that's what happens 95% of the time.

and that deep down many of you guys are afraid and intimidated that now as women can live life independently from men many of y'all won't be able to fulfill the fetish of a traditional submissive housewife.

Lol. Sorry, but that one is just laughable. That's what women like to tell themselves -- "you're just intimidated by a strong, independent woman." No I'm not. I like assertive, independent women -- as colleagues or friends, though, not as romantic partners. I don't find an aggressive, competitive, non-feminine woman attractive. Few men really do. That's what they don't seem to get.

I've got no interest in a "traditional, submissive housewife" either. I know some guys do, but not me.

Title	Hello guys
Author	purpletoredpilled
Upvotes	1
Comments	32
Date	October 9, 2020 8:25 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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