I hate the term 'toxic masculinity;

MGTOW_and_Bitcoin · 2021-03-05T17:15:44+00:00

Here is a very short list of all of the major issues feminist hypocritically promote.

Western women will complain about clitoral mutilation in the world, and continue to circumcise infant boys without any possibility of consent.

Western women will complain about arranged marriages in the world and continue to ignore common law which forces men into marriage all over the world.

Western Women will complain about not having parental choices even though they have the option of abortion adoption and legal abandonment, and continue to ignore how men do not have even one choice to be a parent and how women consistently Force men into Parenthood in a way that they would never find acceptable if done to themselves.

They will complain about Harvey Weinstein getting naked in his own hotel room with an aspiring actress who takes that deal, then they will March down Main Street completely naked writing the word slut on their body with their own menstrual blood.

They complain about representation in all of the easy air conditioned offices, and ignore their lack of representation in all of the hard heavy dangerous Dirty Work.

They yell and complain about the wage Gap and they ignore all the other Financial gaps like: the child support Gap, the net taxpayer Gap, the alimony and palimony Gap, the consumer spending Gap, the car insurance and Healthcare premium Gap, etc, etc...

They complain about fairness under the law and then they promote antifather discrimination in divorce and family courts.

They complain about manspreading in the trains and then they promote radical expressions that have women dancing like strippers on the poles, pouring bleach on men's crotches, are putting their purses on unoccupied seats.

They complain about equality in the workplace and then they look for special privileges like menstruation leave,

They point to news events where women are held captive like Boko Haram and then they ignore how all of the young boys and men were slaughtered.

They March alongside black lives matter and then they support economically disadvantaged black father's going to jail.

They complain about not being able to get ahead because of all of their student loan privilege and then they ignore men who can't get ahead because of the excessive alimony palimony are child support orders.

They complain about civil rights protection for all women and then they take all of the rights away from fathers ( Tender Years Doctrine, and default full custody for women)

They want to help women get into prostitution while simultaneously wanting to help women get out of prostitution.... but they do not want to support MGTOW who are wanting to walk away, and they want to criminalize men who participate and women prostituting freely.

They complain about sexual harassment because men are only interested in them because of their sexuality, then they ignore all of the Practical harassment men experience because we're expected to provide protection provision promotion and progenity... and they see laws to compel men to provide these things. Alimony, palimony child support and crosssubsidized tax-serfdom Force men into provider roles, harassing men who do not come to a woman's rescue and expecting police to always take the side of the woman in domestic disturbances ( the Duluth model)

They promote ideas like toxic masculinity which is only true of men who are sociopaths, then they deplatform, criminalize and get men fired who complain about all of this toxic misandry I'm posting about.

They complain about Father's not taking an active role in their child's life while they have been taking away children from fathers and not insuring that fathers have any rights to their children.

They complain about men raping women, and they ignore how men are divorce raped.... (and yes these are the same issues where one gender wants to forcefully take from another gender what they find most interested in getting).

They complain about believe all women and they promote disbelieve all men.

They complain about stalking and harassment and then they harass and stalk men who try to get together and talk about men's rights.

They complain about free speech and not being listened to, but let's face it feminist get to Define gender issues and all we listen to are women's complaints... even stupid s*** like sexist air conditioning gets precedent over even having a conversation about men's lack of basic rights like the right to choose to be a parent or not.

Women complain about sexualizing breastfeeding and yet they actively sexualize their breasts.

They complain about rape culture but they also promote that all sex is rape.

They complain about patriarchy and they are promoting women taking over and other Feminine Supremacy. In fact they have never pursued gender equality.

They talked about domestic violence yet statistically women are more likely to initiate and practice more covert forms of violence... basically they don't care about domestic violence they just want to criminalize men I lost control after they threatened to take away half of what the men have worked for all their life, false rape false abuse or to take their children away.

They complain about men cheating on women and now they have normalized women cheating on men as some type of stupid Journey which the husbands are obligated to except.

They complained about male-only spaces and they have actively pursued female-only spaces for decades now.

They have complained about the Boy Scouts not being inclusive and then they exclude boys in the same way from Girl Scouts. They literally do this everywhere they go. We even have gyms that are women only, school programs that are women only, etc, etc.

They complain about poor parliamentary representation and yet they've had 51% of the vote the whole time.

They complain about men not being ethical and then they create stupid ideas like care ethics so that they don't have to be ethical themselves and so that they can promote care giver (men) giving to care needy (women) an academic settings we're even more stupid ideas are promoted.

They promote women's choices without promoting women's responsibilities for those choices which ends up being tyranny for every man who is responsible for every woman's choices.

They complain about women being in poverty and then they ignore how the vast majority of homeless are men while women constitute almost 80% of consumer spending ( fyi: where did they get 30% or 40% of men's money)

They talk about biased science and then they decide not to go into the STEM fields.

They complain about bro culture but they do not talk about the hoe culture. The toxic femininity in our universities and office spaces.

If women don't have enough money from alimony, palimony, child support or cross taxsubsidized programs, they make sure they get more money, but a man that does not have enough money will go to jail for back support or getting behind on alimony or palimony.

Women complain about fairness under the law and then we find out they don't care how men get harsher sentences and are convicted more often.

They promote the body positivity and then complain about how men are not attracted to them.

They destroy men's ability to provide for a family then they promote stupid news articles that complain about where have all the good marriageable men gone.

A woman can poke a hole in a condom and it is not a crime in fact Denmark actively promotes grandmother's poking holes in condoms, yes if a man does this it is a crime as serious as rape.

Both men and women can drink alcohol but only men will be held accountable for what happens afterwards.

There is no legal way that men can actually document any woman's consent. It is quite literally her choice should decide at any time in the future if an experience is rape or not...

Men are expected to be and expert psychologist and Body Language expert, read women's minds and be a fortune teller in order to be safe going on a date. Because he will be responsible for her lack of ability to communicate overtly and clearly. Basically dating is a legal minefield full of toxic femininity.

Women complain about benevolent sexism like opening the door for women and then they complain about men not wanting to Mentor them, or men not stepping up and saying something....wtf

Women can force men into fatherhood, poke holes in condoms, use positive pregnancy test on Craigslist, get away with false paternity claims, Force men who are not the biological father on two child support orders, force men into common-law relationships, Force men out of marriage using no fault divorce, force men out of their parental rights, force men into lifelong indentured servitude so that they are under threat of imprisonment if they do not pay for her lifestyle.((((( All of this is legal and reinforced by institutional discrimination against men.)))) And these women cannot point to one real institutional discrimination they suffer under.

All of this comes down to the expectations that men cake up full responsibility for hyperagency. While at the same time we do not expect women to have any agency personal responsibility are even prudence so we promote hypoagency.

Frequentbadideas · 2021-03-05T16:05:16+00:00

Toxic masculinity: Otherwise known as the traits that built empires....

sadbasturd99 · 2021-03-05T16:18:27+00:00

I think the term is far more insidious and sinister than you think. It is part of the entire campaign to destabilize nations that has been employed by Russia and now China in every country on Earth. Everything good is proclaimed bad, criminals are touted as good and police as evil, meanings of words are changed daily or proclaimed to have negative meanings, speech gets policed, people get imprisoned, countries cant function and Enter the shipments of AK-47's.

This destabilization process is not being combated at all in the US, it needs to happen.

BobbingForBunions · 2021-03-05T17:56:49+00:00

"Toxic masculinity" is a meaningless term used by dimwitted women and the simps who want to bed them.

The moment an individual, man or woman, highlights something as an example of "toxic masculinity," I disengage.

I avoid their kind entirely. Abysmal ROI. lol

theanswerisinthedata · 2021-03-05T15:41:19+00:00

I totally agree that women seem to be the ones that define what is “toxic masculinity” and it is always masculine things that women do not like. I hated it because of that. If we want to have “toxic masculinity” it should be defined by men.

To me there are toxic masculine traits/behaviour and they are things that hurt men not women. I think two really good ones to bring up are. Men being shamed for having emotions and the biggy, white knighting. These are things that harm men and should be the core of the toxic masculinity discussion.

CuriousIncel2 · 2021-03-05T15:46:49+00:00

Feminists, in their female solipsistic fashion, think men are just damaged women.

Why bother actually understanding men, when you can just make laws to punish men for acting like men, instead of acting like women.

Prudentanalyst79 · 2021-03-05T15:55:08+00:00

Good. If you understand the origins of name and words like that, you will see the entire point is to demonize an entire group. It's an anti-man Marxist Critical Theory Feminist phrase with only one purpose: make women hate men.

YouSaidChicken · 2021-03-05T16:00:52+00:00

Feminism has a branding problem.

It's 100% proven they just hate men, and aren't in the slightest about "equality".

This is widely known and proven so that's why they had that cringe Emma Robert feminism worshipping festival.

So they basically took man-hating, which is there mandate, and changed it to "toxic masculinity". They're interchangeable.

"You see, we don't hate men, we just hate everything about men. As long as you take a backseat to women, simp, worship pussy, and give us all your money, we'll pat you on the head and call you a 'good boy', but we don't hate men. Just every single solitary about you as a man now drink your soy latte."

Any time you see that phrase, just substitute "man hating" because it's just rebranding of that.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2021-03-05T14:41:46+00:00

Me too i try to say everywhere that they should instead call it ''Toxic standars for men'' so tehre sno room for the itnerpretation of ''masculine toxic''.
Thats exactly it they are just considering womens perspective.

MGTOW_and_Bitcoin · 2021-03-05T15:54:44+00:00

There's no such thing as toxic masculinity all there is is sociopaths and Whoreculture.

Everything that guys did in the past it was because women encouraged it, all we are seeing now is that women are speaking up letting us know that they only want Chad's to hit on them.

Men have gotten the point and now we're starting to understand what's going on you going to see the true character of masculinity... mgtow will be one expression of this and they will realize men have even more control over their "urges" than we believe.

They're already starting to cry where's my estrogen mule I was promised, why aren't these men wifing my high-body-count ass up....

But then again it just shifts The Narrative from toxic masculinity and failure to adult properly.

Such_Temporary_9597 · 2021-03-05T16:56:13+00:00

How'd that toxic masculinity commercial for gillette work out for them oh yeah they're down 8 billion "ohh you dont say " for some reason masculinity dosnt seem so toxic when they're ice storms in texas or when pandemics are going on but they called masculinity essential that time

2021-03-05T21:26:55+00:00

The term used to be called "toxic masculinity". But nowadays it's just called "masculinity". They seem to be synonymous according to modern society. :(

God help young men growing up in that atmosphere.

classicliberal1 · 2021-03-05T19:25:40+00:00

The term toxic masculinity is the modern equivalent of calling someone a nig**r. It exists solely to dehumanize and prevent rational discussion. False accusations of sexual misconduct are the modern equivalent of lynch mobs. Same shit, different façade.

TigPlaze · 2021-03-05T21:18:08+00:00

It's just another attempt by feminists to blame everything on men. Meanwhile feminists to a huge number of things that are totally toxic. Toxicity has no gender. The fact that feminists try to give it a masculine gender just shows their hatred for men.

UnKnownSurviving · 2021-03-06T01:17:58+00:00

Toxic masculinity is bullshit! Men can define and change masculinity in their personal preference and personality. Women have no say in the matter, because they are NOT men or males. Women cannot comprehend the very nature of masculinity.

Masculine traits that men can have and behave on that traits, and endure them through situations. Masculinity is forever and eternal.

Mefic_vest · 2021-03-06T07:49:13+00:00

Toxic masculinity is actually a thing.

Unfortunately, at this point 99+% of its usage is as a thought-control and behaviour-control cudgel designed to ensure men toe the pro-female ideological line.

Title	I hate the term 'toxic masculinity;
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Date	March 5, 2021 2:38 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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