Interesting article that is not completely against 'men going their own way' without partners. Pretty based. (german)

Deplorable_X · 2021-02-23T19:34:32+00:00

Google translation

Future of humanity

Evolutionary Biologist: Many men will no longer find a sexual partner Male civilization contradicts nature: this is the thesis of the biologist Meike Stoverock. She has written a book on the evolutionary principle of “female choice,” according to which females control access to sex. What does this mean for the future relationship between men and women?

Meike Stoverock: "Culture, not evolution, has so far made women available to men - and women are now breaking with it." (Book cover Klett-Cotta Verlag, background Canva)

In the animal kingdom, women choose. Whether crane, giant kangaroo or bird of paradise: the males of almost all species make an effort to get the females to mate. The biologist Meike Stoverock describes it like this:

"Attractive males with horns, antlers, decorative feathers or bright colors make a huge blow: They sing, give, build, threaten, collect, dance and imitate voices that make the poor females dizzy with eroticism."

The males usually have tons of sperm cells with which they want to mate the females. For the females, however, reproduction is much more complex, their egg cells are valuable, and brood care is strenuous. This is why they are picky - they determine which males can mate.

A law of nature was overturned Not all males get a chance, many remain without females and without sex. That's the female choice, a law of evolution.

“Sex is a finite resource for males that females control. The fact that males often and persistently try to establish sexual contact with females and that females almost always refuse these attempts is not a fault of the system - it is the system. "

Meike Stoverock spreads out the panorama of evolutionary biological relationships with relish - and the conclusion that comes to mind when reading this: humans are also only mammals. From a scientific point of view, the principle of female choice must also apply to them. That’s how it used to be, the author explains convincingly.

"Today's world population has about twice as many female as male ancestors, so in pre-cultural times around 70% of women mated with 35% of men."

Marriage prevents male sexual competition So what happened that we live in a male civilization today? In a nutshell, Meike Stoverock explains it as follows: Around 10,000 years ago people settled down with agriculture and women disappeared into private homes, where they looked after the children. From then on, men decided on the distribution of women. They invented marriage to contain male sexual competition and to secure access to sex.

"This suppression [...] is the foundation on which today's states, political systems and cultures stand."

That is a radical thesis - and Meike Stoverock pleads for nothing less than a new world order. However, as a connoisseur of evolutionary history, she does not think in terms of years and decades, but rather in terms of generations and centuries. And she does not want a return to female choice in its purest form, because, as she writes: "peaceful coexistence and high sexual competition" are mutually exclusive.

The Incels phenomenon But the time is ripe to rethink the coexistence of women and men - especially since gender relations are changing anyway; Women, at least in Western societies, are becoming freer and more independent.

"Culture, not evolution, has so far made women available to men - and women are breaking with it now."

Men must be brave when reading this book - because the biologist assumes that many of them will no longer find a partner. What is ignored in this biological perspective, however: Men and women are probably more than the sum of their drives. They don't just bind to each other to complete an evolutionary reproductive program. However, the biologist is right in her observation that the so-called Incels, the involuntarily celibate men, can be dangerous. Incels also exist in the animal kingdom.

“They are the 'rest', the non-premium males who are left over after the evolutionary screening process and have no chance of reproduction. This phenomenon has only been suppressed to this day by the male civilization that controlled and disenfranchised women. "

Now Meike Stoverock makes suggestions as to what the coexistence of men and women could look like in a post-male civilization, a world order in which women tend to choose several alpha men in the course of their lives, but in which not every pot has a lid. She reckons with the institution of marriage, in which she sees an instrument for the oppression of women, and calls for a departure from the romantic notion that men and women can be happy in lifelong monogamy.

Men who can no longer find women in this new world order should be cared for in other ways - Stoverock thinks about sex assistants and the role of prostitution, she describes pornography as a possible “socially acceptable support” for men.

"Men who never or only very rarely find sex partners must be given ethical and socially acceptable ways of meeting their sexual needs."

Meike Stoverock wrote a disturbing book. It's radical and provokes some resistance. She uses it wisely and with foresight and invalidates counter-arguments that can arise while reading. You don't have to like everything she writes, you can be outraged by her image of men and women, her rejection of marriage, the way she criticizes religion. But that is precisely why your book is so worth reading - because it prompts you to rethink the relationship between men and women and also: to argue.

PC-Anonymous-92 · 2021-02-23T12:24:40+00:00

Had to Google translate it into English but I think I still grasped nearly all of what the article is trying to say. I don’t agree with all of it because the author seems to be looking at alternatives to sex for men (prostitution, porn, etc.) but doesn’t seem to cover alternatives to emotional intimacy.

Men aren’t just animals and despite what the MSM wants us to think, they do have complex emotional needs like emotional intimacy too. Maybe it’s something she covers in the book. It looks like an interesting read and I most likely will pick up an English copy if available.

Also, I skimmed through your post history and just wanted to say I’m very sorry for your loss and I hope you’re doing OK :)

ChainsawJones1984 · 2021-02-23T19:26:07+00:00

Interesting article. Men have hid women from life all these centuries, and they are now independent, financially capable and free to be competitive in their mating.

That sounds good, except that it's very naive. Most women rely on men for so much. Having whole groups of less than desirable men being embraced as a positive until they really are violent sounds like a plan. Just give them some porn and prostitutes and they will figure it out... Most women are not that financially capable as well. Many work less, and only specific jobs that are easy and pay well. Many are also taking government handouts. And if men are so free as well, he is not going to limit himself to just one woman, ever. Women love being sexually free until it's time for baby rabies. Then they want and expect commitment. Then they want that guy, most guys who have a job, to help out her out. Make life easier for her.

These modern women live in a delusional fantasy that some tall rich guy is going to be just hers after she gets to try to inflict her voodoo on him. Then 24 hours later he is gone. Most likey checking out her friends before word spreads.

Banned_BY_SOYMEN · 2021-02-24T01:22:23+00:00

Legal and accessible prostitution is the sexual marketplace correction that never occurred despite the sexual revolution.

Banned_BY_SOYMEN · 2021-02-24T01:21:25+00:00

Funny how it took scientists til 2021 for what MGTOWs have been saying for about 6-10 years .

Brandwein · 2021-02-23T11:47:01+00:00

Not agreeing totally about the feminist values and alpha/beta dichotomy presented but i found the last paragraphs about providing sexual alternatives to men interesting.

SlainFunicle · 2021-02-23T16:23:20+00:00

They forgot one key component that men are now realizing, that sleeping around is better than being in a committed relationship and they can also go over seas as long as they make money, if women aren't loved and cared for they will be only used by men and left in the wilderness

cleats4u · 2021-02-23T18:33:05+00:00

How are 3 guys that look like Chad and Tyrone gonna support all those women and babies?

JohnDoe721 · 2021-02-23T20:50:07+00:00

I'll add this.

https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war

Beezu999 · 2021-02-24T14:35:10+00:00

I get all that but I think when it says “women control sex” well... why not take it a little bit further and say women put a pricetag on sex like it’s a commodity and then deeper into it, women charge for sex, even further into it, women charging for sex is illegal in places and yet they still do it, thus women disobey the rules of society for their own well being

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