Need help. Mentally exhausted. Contemplating suicide.

StandAloneBro · 2021-05-12T06:36:16+00:00

Dude. Don't do it. There's always a way You're young and have a full life ahead of you.

It may seem hopeless now, but it will pass. None of these impermanent material things will matter in a few years time. Even the worst case scenario probably isn't as bad as it seems now.. and it too will pass.

What's more, things DO get better. The finest steel is tempered in fire. Trials and struggles build character. And character builds a better life and future.

Take it from me I'm 39 now and living my best life. I have a great job that I love, financial security, and am in the best shape of my life. Healthy and happy.

But at your age I was broke and in debt, living in a rat infested warehouse, sleeping on a hard concrete floor with no bed. Id also just witnessed the premature death of my mother and brother, was a gang rape survivor (women, but they'd drugged me), and had been stabbed and beaten to within an inch of my life and robbed.

Even at your lowest point, there is a way out And what's more, there is something to be learned and IT WILL NOT LAST. It is all transient and impermanent. And only holds as much control over you as you allow it to.

My advice to you would be to list out each problem in order from worst to least. Identify any of them that don't or wont matter in a few years time and say 'fuck it' (for now). Then look at the ones that remain and figure a plan to dig your way out. One at a time. Bit by bit.

If you're mentally exhausted and overwhelmed, tackle manageable bite sized chunks one after the next. And sure as the sun rises, you WILL get there and be free of it. And what's more, you'll be better and stronger for it too.

Hang in the brother. It will get better and this too shall pass.

Let me know if you want to chat too :) .

Carkudo · 2021-05-13T05:47:17+00:00

Hi from Osaka, son.

I'm sorry you're having to go through that. What do you currently want to do? Continue your education? Go back home? What's your nationality?

I'm down on my luck myself so I can't offer any material help, but maybe I can help you navigate the bureaucratic bullshit and cheer you up a bit.

pinewoodpine · 2021-05-12T06:40:30+00:00

Hey there. Note that the advice is not from a professional. I think I would need more information about this.

First of all, are you Japanese? If you are, that should open some doors for you in terms of financial support. My suggestion is to defer your studies for a semester or more so you can focus on other aspects of your life first. Even if you aren’t, you can ask the university’s international student office if there is any recourse for you to take a deferment.

As for the invoice, check with the university if there’s anyway you can defer the payment or make weekly/monthly contributions towards it.

Secondly, I would suggest you to take a piece of paper and write down ALL your worries in no particular order. Just write down all your thoughts. Then, order them, and deal with the easiest one to the hardest. If there is nothing you can do about it, skip it and go to the next one.

Thirdly, focus on your breathing whenever you have suicidal thoughts intruding. As someone who had suicidal ideation for years, I recommend this as you can do it anywhere and at anytime (unless you’re driving). Clear your mind, and focus as you breathe in and breathe out. Take deep breaths. Repeat until you have calmed down.

You will need to take a long break after this to recover.

I hope to see you around.

sicrm · 2021-05-12T06:24:35+00:00

work out a plan.

deal with it as a bunch of small tasks vs one large problem. write out the issues you’re facing now and how to deal with them. if you don’t know how to deal with them, look it up or find someone who does.

IntellegoTheTrue1 · 2021-05-12T08:43:01+00:00

Bro it seems like you can speak some English so you can continue your studies abroad and get a job there, you seemed a skilled and talented guy. Leave Japan behind, its no coincidence herbivores are a Japanese thing. I had a Jap gf, jap women are fucking crazy. If you have a bad relationship with your fam too then its just time to pack shit and leave. Doesnt matter the cost, imagine the life you want and take it, I believe in you, we all do here. Go your own way!

smart_storm26 · 2021-05-12T10:54:31+00:00

The challenges you conquer today will be your success story tomorrow

So don't give up brother. I totally understand you must be going through a really hard time and you must be feeling hopeless. I'm really sorry you are going through all of this and wish you find a solution soon because you don't deserve this. But know this difficult times create strong men. So don't give up no matter how hopeless it seems. We all want you to succeed. Best wishes!!!!

SmolderinCorpse · 2021-05-12T12:42:09+00:00

Hey dude. Passing on the love from Australia. I was in the same situation as you when I was younger (28 now). My biggest advice to you is to just not take things too seriously, step back from whatever situation is making you feel uneasy or tired and focus on improving yourself. Go for a walk or run, go meet a friend, play a video game, whatever you can do to get your mind off of the daily grind called life.

I recall there being very tough days where I use to work 50 hr weeks and only get paid for 35 hrs, where my seniors use to poke fun at my math skills (for the profession I work in, engineering) and having no real friend to lean on in times of pure desperation. I ended up just pouring my emotions out onto my parents, focusing on the "why is this happening" rather than the "fuck it, who gives a damn anyways" approach (in some aspects, MGTOW helped out a lot, considering girls where part of this issue and stress I was going through).

At the end of the day, you're just 1 man living on a planet of +7.9 billion people. Everyone goes through stress of some sort and your main mission is to throw stress out the window.

I was watching a video on Youtube about homeless people living underground in Poland to escape the cold, it was heart breaking. You sometimes need to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is going through another level of hurt and pain, because these people somehow still go on and persist. In most instances, another man on this planet has absolutely nothing; I saw a person post on AusFinance about being in 140k AUD debt (~12,000,000 Yen) due to a gambling problem, yet he doesn't talk about suicide or anything like that.

I think in your situation, step back from doing things too quickly. Take a look at your situation and break it down into steps:

- Can you borrow money from a friend or family member who can lend on a very low interest rate to pay off your loans?

- Can you stop studying (potentially) to focus on paying off the debt you have currently? (it may take longer to reach your end goal, but life is a marathon, not a race. You will reach your goal, it just takes time).

- If you're living alone, or renting, could you potentially move back in with family to lower your bills and overall cost of living? This might allow you to quit one of the two jobs you have and focus on you health or studies.

These are just a few I could think of off the top of my head.

I wish you all the best. Main thing is, definitely don't kill yourself, because that would be a waste, you'll just make your family regret not helping you somehow when you were stressed out most in life!

nyauknow · 2021-05-13T22:11:00+00:00

I just wanted to say I have ADHD too and it sucks

SleepVapor · 2021-05-12T19:27:54+00:00

I don't know your specific problems. But I want to tell you that sometimes life gets pretty rough, and that it's ok if you stumble a little bit.

But try to not give up. Sometimes you have to get creative. Sometimes it is necessary to make difficult choices.

But death is final, and absolute. There are no other choices once you choose that. That isn't for you.

MelmothTheBee · 2021-05-12T13:55:51+00:00

Read Goggins’ “Can’t hurt me.” No magic pill, but it might help contextualize.

escapetovictory · 2021-05-12T12:54:52+00:00

Just sending you my love dude....please wait....there is no rush..,,things can and always change...you cannot see the future,,so let's not make a permanent decision here that means you never find out.

HangZulu · 2021-05-12T12:22:35+00:00

Found out I had ADHD

I am sorry this is happening to you. From what little I know, it seems Japan offers very few treatment options for ADHD, no Ritalin or Adderall.

Do you know what treatment options are available? Do you keep in regular contact with your doctor?

Is state-welfare an option? Can your student debt be forgiven? Or can you file for bankruptcy?

I really hope you decide to stay with us. I will tell you I am going through my own troubles with ADHD, I am struggling to cope but I am pushing hard to improve my situation and get my life back in order.

You might benefit from finding others with ADHD in your country, just expressing yourself can help relieve some of your stress. You are also welcome to message me if you wish to talk more.

Whatever you do, please stay alive. You have heard this before, but all of your problems really will pass. Even if life gets worse in the short term, it will eventually change into something new.

take care, friend

Lost_Musashi · 2021-05-12T11:45:23+00:00

So cool that we have Japanese members here. So please stay alive, you are a great contribution to this sub!

plastic-watering-can · 2021-05-14T06:15:36+00:00

Hey man, hope you are ok and here's my little bit: depression IS GOOD. TRUST ME! As someone has had depression and anxiety, depression has done so much for my strength and resilience as a person. I'm 22, turning 23 tomorrow and I live in South Africa. They gave me the pills and I took them for a few days until I felt like I was cheating a natural process, subverting a course I was meant to be taking. So, I would advise you to take the pills if they give you but ONLY for a short time, maybe a week or two because they slow down your mental process so much that you can finally be in a position to observe your thoughts without the noise and the narrative, without the emotions around them.

But why is depression a good thing? You would be depressed in a situation like Auschwitz, you'd be depressed in an American slave plantation, and oddly, you will be depressed in the modern world, because it's fundamentally sick. That's not a matter of ideology, it's observable fact and your body is responding to it. Sure, your personal life and history plays a big part, but more and more people are depressed and our society says that it is something to quickly surmount but it isn't. Depression is your body's response to an unnatural and stressful environment lacking in love and community. Basically, those of us who do get depressed are healthy in this regard because it shows that our bodies and minds are still working as intended and they reject this. What's J Krishnnamurthi quote? "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

So my guy, be proud of the fact that you're depressed. It sounds really weird and dumb, I know. But it is a good thing that you're one of the healthy ones. You'll get over it, just ride it out and be patient and always know that your suicide is not ever an option.

Think-Explanation-22 · 2021-05-13T12:45:12+00:00

Have you tried to talk to somebody in whatever topics you like?

It would distract you although it would last a little bit.

MasterCeddy2 · 2021-05-13T15:59:02+00:00

Don't commit suicide, but, if you decide to do it, do it the japanese way (hara-kiri), slice your stomach with a katana or something, for honor. You know?

elisemopie · 2021-05-15T09:16:43+00:00

Please check into a mental hospital ASAP, it saved my bf’s life.

moterbikedude · 2021-05-14T00:06:38+00:00

Don’t. Hit me up if you need to talk

prove_this · 2021-05-13T06:34:07+00:00

Well, don't off yourself over it.

You can always restart somewhere else, doing something very different.

I've hit rock bottom before in the last financial crisis. You wouldn't guess from my life today.

Your current setup doesn't work? OK. Go do something else. Go be a trucker in the US, miner in Australia, chef in France...whatever. Life's an adventure and the world is a playground.

RatingsOutOfTen · 2021-05-15T19:29:21+00:00

Come to America. You can live dirt cheap on my homestead.

Impossible-asset · 2021-05-12T11:22:12+00:00

Please contact https://telljp.com/lifeline/ It is a helpline for people who are in your situation. Societal pressures can often seem to be insurmountable, but suicide is a very permanent non-solution to a problem.

Just a thought. But using your rational mind to work the problem from the solution back to the problem can help you find a pathway out.

Reach out to some friends or family for support. Sometimes just being around someone can be helpful.

Good luck OP, i'm sure you will find a way to overcome this obstacle and be victoriois over it.

You've already diagnosed the problem pretty well, you are mentally worn out. One thing that can help snap out out of focusing on the problems themselves is to focus on solutions to those problems. For the debt, perhaps military service would do it. I don't have much knowledge about japan, but perhaps there is a program that will forgive student debt with X years of

shishimong · 2021-05-12T12:48:38+00:00

Hi, I'm a Japanese living in the Netherlands. If you borrow the student loan in Japan, you can file your bankruptcy at courts nearby. Or the "scholarship" provider 日本学生支援機構 has exemption scheme when you can certify your depression by mental doctors. Check this page if you can read Japanese. https://mitsubagroup.co.jp/saimu-kaiketsu/6062.html

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tiger-tael · 2021-05-12T23:15:46+00:00

Hey OP, if you need someone to talk, feel free to DM.

SocraticDuck · 2021-05-12T23:24:02+00:00

Honestly, an intelligent and/or religious man should contemplate suicide. It's a valid option. To be sane in an insane society is not mark of sanity.

There are good things to be had from life still.

I've seen others mentioning a 'plan' and I agree with that sentiment. Having some goals and some things that you look forward to are critical.

YrWoMeNthISWay · 2021-05-12T11:32:53+00:00

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heywhats43245 · 2021-05-14T17:37:55+00:00

DUDE waste of time

THERE IS A LITERAL DOME ABOVE THE EARTH GOD EXIST IDIOT

read the bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMr6Qb0_5kM

SCHOOL IS A LIE

you are wasting your time

science is fake

and if you want me to prove it

just ask

EVERYTHING YOU WERE TOLD IS A LIE

we are in Revelation of the bible

and if you want the evidence just ask me

Need help. Mentally exhausted. Contemplating suicide.

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