What needs to change?

DangZagnut · 2020-08-11T21:23:28+00:00

If I cared, and I do not, because the whole question is, "What needs to change for men to come back to the plantation".

Boys need to learn to masturbate 6 times a day until the thirst, based on retardation, goes away, and stop watching Disney movies.

Maximum_Afternoon · 2020-08-12T04:26:33+00:00

More equal, but actually equal, not the pretend people we have now. The real equal that would be a lot tougher for women.

2020-08-11T21:50:38+00:00

None of the above. Go your own way.

CuriousIncel2 · 2020-08-12T06:02:10+00:00

Don't care. They want their ~~communist~~ matriarchal utopia, they can have it.

I'm getting the fuck out.

ZlayerXZ · 2020-08-12T10:25:36+00:00

Missing Option:

Women should move to their own civilization.

TheApricotCavalier · 2020-08-12T00:37:43+00:00

I vote Option D) Clown world should be more funny & less sad

GlobalAsshat · 2020-08-12T09:16:53+00:00

Women need to be compliant, supportive housewives not corrupted by the temptations of the modern world and the fantasy that Hollywood pushes out. Basically we need to go back in time. Not gonna happen. We also need a good world war to wipe out a third or more of the males. Marriage worked better when life was more simple and the male/female population ratio was more like 33/66.

It simply doesn't work in a culture with such material temptations and a male female population of 50/50. Unless you participate in the group orgy that modern culture has become (everyone is having sex with everyone) you will be left out. The red pill is a natural and very productive adaptation to modern culture. Getting married does not pay. Being the guy that women cheat with is better, and that can be you with a little bit of work.

Never before have men been able to disconnect from a society and unplug from the system before. Never in the history of the species. It's something to be thankful for. This species has never really been a very good one to incarnate into.. people just have rose colored glasses when it comes to the past. I'd rather not come back here if given a choice.

Bourbonandcigars06 · 2020-08-15T20:43:20+00:00

I think you are very mistaken in your perception. Sounds like rage depicts what OP is posting. You are focusing on others and not on yourself. Sure is it frustrating on shitty people and those things will always be in the world. It may have changed over time but GYOW is absolutely under your control

It’s been there for 100+ years but reddit and internet has not. Divorces, entitlement, selfishness and reliance on others has always been around and so has the rage and hate that goes with it. There has always been guys that are happier doing their own thing and will always be to some level

It’s not a new thing at all, is not a phenomenon, cult or movement. Get over rage and hate for your own health. Rage and hate are very real and take self control to REALLY get over. Find your own contentment, self worth, appreciation and enjoy your life, absolutely no one can provide this for you. You must find what works for you

Challenges a and shitty people are out there and some can hide true intentions very well. You cannot control how others react, cannot control others entitlement or behavior. You can be in control of your own behavior and your own life. Always be cautious of your surroundings , intentions, behaviors and don’t draw negative attention. There will be challenges and you will make mistakes. Make good decisions and DO NOT make bad decisions, they are different. If atmosphere is negative, be professional, find solutions and find your way out

If you are REALLY doing it for you, there is no need to advertise.

As far as GYOW - Do it, don’t talk about it. It attracts negative attention.

Be a good person, be courteous, do your own thing, fish, hunt, watch movies, improve yourself to learn new skills and earn more money, keep stable in career, save and invest, be frugal not cheap, take responsibility for your own actions. You have control how people perceive you only to a limited level. You can’t make everyone happy but can be respectful and find your way out of situation

Don’t talk about money either, it attracts wrong attention and people will try to take it. There are a lot of people that want what you have without doing the work that you have done

mgtow_lib · 2020-08-14T04:17:53+00:00

Nothing needs to change.

hypergamy is the agent of change, and it will not be stopped. IMO its a self reinforcing cycle that leads to the collapse of the current system.

Human nature doesn't change, change is forced.

Its sad commentary on human nature. The more successful women are the less happy they are.

This is because the same power dynamic that makes men miserable is what makes women miserable once they become too successful.

What makes it sad? the less successful a woman is the more likely it is she will be an an abusive relationship.

unmasteredman · 2020-08-12T21:09:22+00:00

I don't care. Flawed survey as that is not an option.

cums0cks · 2020-08-11T21:00:04+00:00

We are not turning back the clock, nor should we. Women have talents and abilities to offer in the workplace just as men do. Their talents need not be squandered by the imposition of some contrived gender standard. Men who feel threatened by increased competition in the workplace by people of other genders (or races, etc.) need to up their game, pure and simple.

The issue is not that there is too little equality; it is that there is not enough. Any human can perpetrate pain or damage on another human; this needs to be said more often.

A woman might only rarely have the brute physical strength to hurt a man, but she can use weapons. She can even use her own diminutive stature and physical weakness to draw allies and use the allies as a weapon. She can also damage a man's reputation.

Before I feel safe trusting a woman again, I need to feel as though I have recourse if or when she commits an injustice against me, just as she has recourse against me. Right now I do not feel safe with a woman. The best way for both of us to have standing is for us to be fully equal.

Title	What needs to change?
Author	cums0cks
Upvotes	1
Comments	16
Date	August 11, 2020 8:52 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW2
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