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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Maybe because she has filled her feminine role but you've yet to fill your Masculine one?
[–]Sadbeary4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like she is practically begging him to be a man.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's why he feels that void. His wife filled her role, he watched.
If he doesn't assume his role as the dominant this relationship will fall to shit.
[–]stings-like-my-pee-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So, giving my family everything, bleeding and sweating for them every day, putting food on the table, making sure everything is paid for while still trying to be compassionate and make time for my wife's interests isn't manly? What specifically am I not doing?
[–]Sadbeary1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fighting like crazy is one point. Don't engage with crazy. Lead and tell her flat out what is OK and what is not...no need to yell. She is as new to this mother role as you are to dad, teach her what is right.
[–]stings-like-my-pee0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, we definitely cut out a lot of the fighting. Honestly, the things we used to fight about are non-existent now. We just had a huge jump to get over.
[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, giving my family everything, bleeding and sweating for them every day, putting food on the table, making sure everything is paid for [...] isn't manly?
Nope, that is orthogonal to being manly. It doesn't really matter. It matters to her about as much as it does to you whether a maid or your wife cleaned the house; you just want a clean house.
Your wife doesn't care about the work and sacrifice; if you got money from hard work or a trust fund, same shit. Heck, you could be living off her trust fund. It won't make you more or less manly in her eyes.
trying to be compassionate and make time for my wife's interests isn't manly?
Nope. That is unmanly. A man knows what he wants, is strong in body and mind, imposes his will socially, doesn't give a fuck about what other people think, and fucks his women hard for his own pleasure.
On the other end of that axis you have being supplicant, skinny or fat, putting her on a piedestal, and asking her what she wants.
That's the attractiveness axis for men and it is comparable to the axis for women running from "young, hot, fit and amazing in bed" to "old, ugly, fat and frigid".
She's as likely to love you for your income and sacrifice as you are for loving an old, fat woman for her cleaning and cooking skills.
[–]stings-like-my-pee-2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. I get that, but I'm about 100x better than I was in the beginning of our relationship. And she has always told me that she loves me exactly how I am, so I'm not sure how radical changes will affect us.
Is she just saying that to be nice and she secretly wants me to be a meathead, dip chewing, open carry motherfucker?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Is that what you think the dominant/Masculine male looks & acts like?
[–]stings-like-my-pee-2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not particularly. Trying to be humorous. I instantly got vague negative feedback from others about this post.
Wanting more ideas and constructive criticism.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm going to just give you some bullet points as I'm buzzed & tired and my wife fell asleep on me so i have nothing else to do.
Remove I don't know from your vocabulary. The reason? Your wife is submitting to you, she needs to know you can lead her.
Show her what you want. Your house is a mess? Clean with her as a team, you give her instructions(lead) and then she will see the standard you expect.
Have fun with her. Have her call you Daddy, make her get permission to cum, only respond to Lord of Pussy for a day, and just have fun playing together. Life is short, enjoy it.
Let her know you accept her desire to fulfill her feminine role and tell her that in return for her submission you will be here dominant and always fill your role as the Masculine.
"Lord of Pussy"..... Holy fuck that is going to happen.
[–]jeezydasnowman0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remove I'm sorry from your vocabulary as well. Talk less in general, action action action.
[–]Redneck001MRP APPROVED0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
she secretly wants me to be a meathead, dip chewing, open carry motherfucker?
It would be an improvement. And she doesn't secretly want you to man up, she's overtly wants you to. Don't forget to breathe out of your mouth.
Show her something, anything other than your paycheck and the t-shirt that you wear every day that says "I work and bleed for you". Show her how happy you can be when you put your needs first. Show yourself how awesome you can be when you lift weights and eat well.
Stop with the "nobody appreciates all I do" bullshit. She doesn't care, I don't care, nobody cares.
Your woman is offering you the reins. Grab those fuckers and take yourself where you always dreamed of going.
[–]SepeanMRP APPROVED-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And she has always told me that she loves me exactly how I am, so I'm not sure how radical changes will affect us. Is she just saying that to be nice and she secretly wants me to be a meathead, dip chewing, open carry motherfucker?
She is not saying it to be nice. She is saying it to test you.
Girls want dominant men. It's genetic wiring. They want their genes so their baby boys grow up to be dominant men.
All this "I want you to be yourself", "I want you to be nice to me", "I want you to do stuff for me", it is a test to see if you're dominant. If you are dominant, you're not going to give a fuck what she says and just do what you want, and she'll find that very sexy. If you do as she says, she knows you're not fuckable; and as an added bonus you'll do lots of stuff for her. It's win-win for girls to test men like this.
[–]marriedwithchitluns4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You lucky fucker, you. Your woman hand delivers you a written invitation to be the Dominant Alpha Male (TM) that she's always fantasized about, and communicates her intentions through her actions.
Is that what you want? Yes?
Now, it's your turn. The role she's overtly asked you to fill is not an overnight transformation, but a lifelong journey of self-improvement and leadership. Start with the sidebar. Then move on to the books. Then put all that shit into action.
If it feels uncomfortable at first, that's understandable. What the feminized Western world teaches us about how the World works, and how the World (actually) works is two different things.
You're new here. Things get fuzzy out of perspective. You need the whole picture.
Get to reading.
[–]stings-like-my-pee1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks. I'm on it.
[–]whinemoreplease 3 points3 points3 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Read the sidebar you lazy shit.
You don't feel right because you realize you are a giant fucking pussy who's been trained by blue pill society to be completely scared of taking personal responsibility. We (generalizing red pill here) embrace failure because failing intelligently means progress. You (generalizing blue pill here) are afraid to fail.
I'm also guessing the book is the "Surrendered Wife"?
I'm just feeling like all of our problems couldn't have been her fault, you know?
All your problems are your fault. Read the sidebar.
Duly noted. I'm new to reddit in general so I'm just now kinda finding out about sidebars and lingo. Yeah yeah.... didn't read all the info before posting.
And that wasn't the book btw
[–]BlackKnightofthePill0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What book?
You could be uncomfortable for a couple reasons. One, you don't really understand what's happening or don't really understand the changing dynamics. For that, tag the sidebar, as others have said.
Two, she is working on maximizing her potential as a woman and you're possibly not making the same strides as a man. This is a phenomenon called dread. Usually when one SO it's improving and the other isn't it makes the non-improver uncomfortable to say the least. At last it makes them concerned that the person will be able to attract higher value people of the opposite sex. I'm not saying that's happening necessarily.
Three, you mentioned in another comment that you were working hard and spending blood, sweat and treats blah blah. That doesn't make you a man in the Red Pill sense. Any beta can be like that. It's called Beta Bucks. The sissy male who is good for comfort and financial support. As opposed to alpha fucks, who's good for fucking, as you might imagine.
As a married man, there's a fine line to walk. She's gonna give you shit sometimes, and probably it'll be something called a shit test, which you will understand and learn how to deal with it by reading the side bar. Basically you need to channel your alpha fucks persona. But sometimes it's going to be something called a comfort test. If you treat that like a shit test you fail. You'll learn about those and how to deal with them by reading the sidebar. Basically you channel beta bucks to pass it.
Married men usually are successful at marriage is they learn how to become an alpha provider. You'll see.
Right now til you read the sidebar I'm going to give you some quick bullet points yay won't steer you wrong.
Stop apologizing for shit, if you are. Canadians apologize (read Reddit), not alpha men. If you forget to do something she'd asked you to do, instead of apologizing, say something like "I forgot, I'll put it on my crowbar next time so it doesn't happen again".
Don't argue. It doesn't do any good. While women are certainly capable of tubing logically/rationally, it's not their first inclination, especially in a heated situation. Trying to explain logically why you're not a horrible person for not thinking to get her a glass of water when you got yourself one will rarely (never) work. You need to maintain frame. Read the sidebar about that concept. Also avoid DEER. Defend, explain, excuse, rationalize when you're getting shit from her. It weakens you're position and that's where she can (hopefully) proverbially go on for the kill. Instead, you need to learn how to respond to the emotion. Read the sidebar and read posts on here.
Start lifting weights if you don't already. If you do, lift heavy. If you don't, try the Stronglifts website and app.
Make make friends and spend time with them outside the home. This will give you needed independence and also will improve your value in her eyes.
Get a hobby that doesn't involve Internet, porn or video games. They sap your mental, physical and sexual energy and make you shitty.
Have sex frequently.
This is basic shit, but should be enough to get you started. You have a beautifully unique opportunity, because your wife is practically begging you to step up.
TLDR: READ THE SIDEBAR.
[–]StuffaYouFace0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your getting criticized because you have posted before reading the sidebar and required material. This isn't just some random forum where you post your relationship bullshit and we share in your feelz.
You do the work, swallow the pill, then you can post and get insight.
You just got handed a gift from your wife. She wants to be woman and wants you to be a man. You either step up or we will see you over in the divorce subreddit soon.
Next time you come back, we expect you to have done your homework.
You have one shot at saving your marriage.
Here's what happened.
You wife think you suck and she isn't attracted to you. She tried bitching and denying you sex, but you didn't get the picture.
After years of this, in a last ditch effort to save your marriage she found a book on how to be a submissive wife. She's still not attracted to you, but she is forcing herself to be a better wife and hoping you respond in kind. You can sense this, and that's why you think something is off.
My guess is she isn't cleaning the house because of a covert contract: she's planning to reward you with that if you man up.
So what can you do here? You can stay a weak man and she'll get fed up and either go back to bitching and denying you sex or just leave you. Or you can man up.
If you think this will last, you're dead wrong. It takes a lot of willpower for a woman to please a man she doesn't like and she'll only do that for so long unless you improve.
Did your wife by any chance have a part in you "stumbling upon" this subreddit?
Now go read Married Man Sex Life Primer (it's on the sidebar) and follow the advice to a t. It will be hard; I had a hellish marriage and that burning platform gave me a lot of motivation to work on myself. You'll have to do it to keep something good, and that can be harder. We don't know what we have until we lose it.
Lift and lead.
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